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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
August 21 2015 11:13 GMT
#22921
Interesting stuff, so the next one is a Male recruit ^^ Aka Kinemon or Son, or a Dwarf like I have always said. They don't see him and just randomly sits on the ship, untill they are on the next island, they won't notice him. Like Robin sneaking in.

Out of all the pairing, which I don't support. It would be Robin - Sabo :D
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 11:21:59
August 21 2015 11:18 GMT
#22922
They already had their first male recruit which is Jimbei

Grand Line(newworld)
Jimbei ----- 1st Male Recruit
?--------------- 2nd Female Recruit
?-------- Failed Legitimate Recruit
?------------------- 3rd Male Recruit
?-------------------- 4th Male Recruit
?----------------- Former Roger Pirate Crewmember

which should be missing if the theory is correct
this is a quote
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 21 2015 11:55 GMT
#22923
On August 21 2015 16:00 evilfatsh1t wrote:
one piece is like the only story i can think of where there is literally 0 romantic development between any of the characters. even at the end i dont see the main characters getting with anyone. MAYBEEE one or two like zoro and tashigi and a surprise couple here and there, but for the most part i think itll end without any new couples formed


Oda is smart enough to stay clear for the relationship shit, even if there is there will be some lightning marriage we won't get shitty filler etc
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 21 2015 11:57 GMT
#22924
well not sure about gaimon

did luffy offer? can't remember
maru lover forever
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 11:59:53
August 21 2015 11:59 GMT
#22925
On August 21 2015 15:35 ImDrizzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 02:05 Canucklehead wrote:
Damn! I would have preferred if luffy was left as the hero of the country, but now the ordinary folks turned their backs on him just like that thinking he kidnapped rebecca!


Just confused, I think Oda fucked up a lot there. Makes so little sense it's not even funny, especially when you think about how the fight with Doflamingo ended. Everyone knew he was the Tyrant, everyone about to die, everyone's life hanging in the balance, relying on Luffy!!

Luffy saves the day, everyone cries, rejoice, hug their loved ones!!

A few days later "WHAT HE KIDNAPPING THE PRINCESS, SHOOT HIM, KILL HIM!"

It's just piss, or maybe Oda doing it on purpose to show how the masses can easily think? Maybe something I'm missing, just seem so weird and off. Anyone got any insight on this? Or is it just stupid?


Oda is trying stay true to the root of being a pirate, that freedom of being able to do whatever you want, there is no political corrected bullshit etc. Luffy wants to one last thing before he leaves and he went on and do it.

You can easily tell oda is doing a non typical aftermath story development here, usually we get the huge party and everyone of the saved town love and celebrate with the crew
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
August 21 2015 12:04 GMT
#22926
Ussop has that girl he loves back on his home island. No?
I can't remember Franky, Brook or Robin having a romantic interest. Maybe Robin will marry Crocodile?
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
August 21 2015 13:11 GMT
#22927
On August 21 2015 20:57 Incognoto wrote:
well not sure about gaimon

did luffy offer? can't remember


http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/22/27

Ye pretty Much offered.

What i do love in This theory is the pattern he found out. That makes sense and that's no subjective argument anyone can discard.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
August 21 2015 13:39 GMT
#22928
On August 21 2015 19:54 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
East Blue
Roronoa Zoro ----------- 1st Male Recruit
Nami--------------------- 2nd Female Recruit
(Gaimon)---------------- Failed Legitimate Recruit
Ussop--------------------- 3rd Male Recruit
Sanji---------------------- 4th Male Recruit
Crocus-------------------- Former Roger Pirate Crewmember

Grand Line(pre-newworld)
Tony Tony Chopper ----- 1st Male Recruit
Nico Robin--------------- 2nd Female Recruit
(Vivi and Carue)--------- Failed Legitimate Recruit
Franky------------------- 3rd Male Recruit
Brook-------------------- 4th Male Recruit
Rayleigh----------------- Former Roger Pirate Crewmember



Alright that's pretty neat and interesting read SkrollK. I'll finish this later.
Wasn't crocus the first they met in the grand line? Or is that a difference between manga and anime?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 14:08:03
August 21 2015 13:53 GMT
#22929
On August 21 2015 22:39 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 19:54 goody153 wrote:
East Blue
Roronoa Zoro ----------- 1st Male Recruit
Nami--------------------- 2nd Female Recruit
(Gaimon)---------------- Failed Legitimate Recruit
Ussop--------------------- 3rd Male Recruit
Sanji---------------------- 4th Male Recruit
Crocus-------------------- Former Roger Pirate Crewmember

Grand Line(pre-newworld)
Tony Tony Chopper ----- 1st Male Recruit
Nico Robin--------------- 2nd Female Recruit
(Vivi and Carue)--------- Failed Legitimate Recruit
Franky------------------- 3rd Male Recruit
Brook-------------------- 4th Male Recruit
Rayleigh----------------- Former Roger Pirate Crewmember



Alright that's pretty neat and interesting read SkrollK. I'll finish this later.
Wasn't crocus the first they met in the grand line? Or is that a difference between manga and anime?

I do remember that Crocus dude they met him when they met Brook's whale friend. I think that was when they officially entered grand line.

I think the crew was still Sanji+ Nami + Usopp+zoro+luffy.
this is a quote
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
August 21 2015 14:31 GMT
#22930
On August 21 2015 13:32 goody153 wrote:
Pretty sure you guys are just biased Vivi and Rebecca and basically the same. Vivi broke down at alabasta i don't remember any complains about her.

Even nami broke down during her arc. Still didn't hear complains about her. Actually Robin was so fucking annoying actually more than rebecca during her arc she broke down and refused the strawhats multiple times even.

Not sure what this comparing is about but all the girls broke down when it matters on their respective arcs. Sure later they didn't but if that's the case then rebecca should be given a chance it's her first appearance.

This is just bias all of them went limp and did nothing at one point because they were crying like a little girl. But i don't hear complains about them obviously they didn't after BUT THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 1982739187 OF EPISODES it's literally rebecca's first arc.


Yes Nami and Vivi and them all broke down at one point. But when it mattered they stepped the fuck up. Plus Rebecca has literally broke down in one arc more then Nami, Robin, and Vivi have combined throughout the entire manga.... In my opinion she is a terrible character, especially for a pirate crew.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
August 21 2015 14:50 GMT
#22931
Dunno man, you can keep saying that Rebecca breaks down but Robin was pretty much suicidal at Enies Lobby. But I do agree, I don't see her joining unless it's a combo with Soldier-san which will not happen.

Crocos was in Grandline, but with theories, you gotta stretch some of the story to make them happen.
That theory is very sound, but it was also posted some time ago, given, with updates. He's done a good job and the amount of effort is crazy ^^ Impressive thinking anyways, crazy patterns and parallels.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
August 21 2015 15:01 GMT
#22932
On August 21 2015 23:50 Sableyeah wrote:
Dunno man, you can keep saying that Rebecca breaks down but Robin was pretty much suicidal at Enies Lobby. But I do agree, I don't see her joining unless it's a combo with Soldier-san which will not happen.

Crocos was in Grandline, but with theories, you gotta stretch some of the story to make them happen.
That theory is very sound, but it was also posted some time ago, given, with updates. He's done a good job and the amount of effort is crazy ^^ Impressive thinking anyways, crazy patterns and parallels.

But at least at the end she stood up and beat the ever living fuck out of Spanda. If Rebecca got to the flower fields and put up a fight against Diamante I'd probably have easily forgiven the crying.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
August 21 2015 15:36 GMT
#22933
On August 21 2015 23:50 Sableyeah wrote:
Crocos was in Grandline, but with theories, you gotta stretch some of the story to make them happen.
That theory is very sound, but it was also posted some time ago, given, with updates. He's done a good job and the amount of effort is crazy ^^ Impressive thinking anyways, crazy patterns and parallels.


Ye, true for Crocus, even tho you could argue that the beginning of smthg can be the end of another

Point is, they meet a former Jolly Roger pirates crewmember as a conclusive point, to end one thing and begin another. Even tho crocus was not technically at the end of east blue, he is still the first person they encounter as a transition man between east blue and the first part of grandline.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 21 2015 17:50 GMT
#22934
That theory is really clever, but also likely to be completely false. Gaimon's a huge stretch (he's not mentioning all the other random people Luffy's offered to join his crew like that dude on Thriller Bark or the centaur on Punk Hazard), and there's no real reason Oda should follow a set pattern. You can find patterns anywhere.
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
August 21 2015 18:09 GMT
#22935
On August 22 2015 02:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
That theory is really clever, but also likely to be completely false. Gaimon's a huge stretch (he's not mentioning all the other random people Luffy's offered to join his crew like that dude on Thriller Bark or the centaur on Punk Hazard), and there's no real reason Oda should follow a set pattern. You can find patterns anywhere.


Ye, definitely agree. But you've got to acknowledge That That amount of coïncidences is at least suspicious

Plus, one thing I wanted to speak about was That all the east blue stuff was written 10++ years ago, and That Oda's mind and ideas have probably evolved and changed throught time. His construction and his conception of the way the first recruitments happenned were not entierly set at That time (see the pictures and drawing of his first conceptions of luffy's nakama on the same page).
His vision probably evolved, and he may have created the pattern waaaay after the first set of recruits, aka during the second one... Not to mention That luffy grew has a character, and I find hum way more stereotyped in his actions now than what he was before. (by That i mean he is more reckless and stupid at the same time, and I feel like he was more... Not clever but thougtfull at the beginning of the manga. Only my opinion There, feel free to disagree )

We can only guess

But nonetheless, I agree thzt one of the strongest disclaimer of That theory has definitely the traits of gaimon.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
August 21 2015 18:19 GMT
#22936
On August 22 2015 02:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
That theory is really clever, but also likely to be completely false. Gaimon's a huge stretch (he's not mentioning all the other random people Luffy's offered to join his crew like that dude on Thriller Bark or the centaur on Punk Hazard), and there's no real reason Oda should follow a set pattern. You can find patterns anywhere.

This. The amount of details is large enough that by being selective, and 'stretching the story' as mentioned above, there probably are multiple plausible theories. It's just like a local grocer predicting an economic breakdown in the year 2050. He may be right, but I highly doubt it's for the right reasons.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18666 Posts
August 21 2015 18:25 GMT
#22937
Finally Rebecca joining became 100% impossible.
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
August 21 2015 18:36 GMT
#22938
Oh Ziggurat sorry i misunderstood your point about all the guys luffy's "invited" (especiallly in thriller bark lol).

The theory's author mention it in his post, iirc. He says That he doesn't count them cause they are "obviously" not serious picks.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 21 2015 19:36 GMT
#22939
On August 22 2015 03:36 SkrollK wrote:
Oh Ziggurat sorry i misunderstood your point about all the guys luffy's "invited" (especiallly in thriller bark lol).

The theory's author mention it in his post, iirc. He says That he doesn't count them cause they are "obviously" not serious picks.


and Gaimon's a serious pick?
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
August 21 2015 19:56 GMT
#22940
On August 22 2015 04:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2015 03:36 SkrollK wrote:
Oh Ziggurat sorry i misunderstood your point about all the guys luffy's "invited" (especiallly in thriller bark lol).

The theory's author mention it in his post, iirc. He says That he doesn't count them cause they are "obviously" not serious picks.


and Gaimon's a serious pick?


Ye

And i agree with him on That.
If You re-read the manga (linked above), you Can see That luffy's pretty serious about it.

Even tho imo, we don't know if it's to join the crew or to just get him out the island.
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