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Bizaraciel

1075 Posts

June 18 2015 17:45 GMT

#22081

On June 18 2015 22:51 sharkie wrote:

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DD getting his ass kicked is always a bad chapter for Mensol ^^

It's more Mensol is a contrarian, "if something is logical he won't believe it just because everyone else believes it and he wants to be a unique little snowflake."

Nice chapter and getting close to the end of this arc also grats on the record Oda

LaughingTulkas

United States1107 Posts

June 18 2015 18:10 GMT

#22082

While it would have been satisfying to see Luffy win in the first Gear 4, it's important for the story for us to see the drawback and weakness of the new technique so that we can feel the tension and the risk when it is used in the future, and perhaps see growth and Luffy can use it longer, or with less down time, etc.

I will agree that the birdcage seems like a bit of a weak way to increase the tension and make everything depend on Luffy, but this is how it always goes. In every other major arc, it doesn't matter that the crew won their battles, everything could still be lost if Luffy loses his, and in this arc, that's achieved with the birdcage. It's perhaps a little under-explained for hypercritical internet readers, but for a comic book it's probably okay enough.

And for everyone who said "omg how come his glasses didn't break", even you have to admit it's damn satisfying to see them break now.

sumsaR

Sweden1812 Posts

June 18 2015 19:09 GMT

#22083

On June 07 2015 05:46 rei wrote:
No way he's ganna go down to luffy's next hit, it just not right to have the better man go down to a little pussy who can't fight like a man, WTF happened to the luffy who stood up to Rob lucci of cp9 so that his nakamas won't get pick off one by one? A real man would have stood there and die trying. He is unworthy of his conqueror's haki.

rei such an anti-oracle.

Gjhc

Portugal161 Posts

June 18 2015 19:10 GMT

#22084

There's a couple things I haven't seen mentioned: first it seems like it was Rayleigh who taught Luffy gear 4, which seems weird to me since it is something so specific to Luffy's fruit. And Corazon says that D is a family, not a clan or group of people with some specific characteristic, which may mean Luffy, Roger, Law, Ace and everyone with D in their name are blood related. Or am I misinterpreting it?

Sableyeah

Netherlands2119 Posts

June 18 2015 19:22 GMT

#22085

On June 19 2015 04:10 Gjhc wrote:
There's a couple things I haven't seen mentioned: first it seems like it was Rayleigh who taught Luffy gear 4, which seems weird to me since it is something so specific to Luffy's fruit. And Corazon says that D is a family, not a clan or group of people with some specific characteristic, which may mean Luffy, Roger, Law, Ace and everyone with D in their name are blood related. Or am I misinterpreting it?

Nowhere can I read that Ray taught Luffy Gear 4. He knows about the ability, thats it and he advises him about the weaknesses like an experienced fighter would.

Their ancestry are probably the same I would think but has split a long way. Like the Chinese name Lee is also spread to America and sometimes they look plain western.

Gjhc

Portugal161 Posts

June 18 2015 19:45 GMT

#22086

But how could he have known the ability? It's specific to the gomu gomu fruit and Luffy seems unaware of it but suddenly Rayleigh tells Luffy about it, so I can only assume he taught it to Luffy.

You're probably right about the second point, although so far most people thought being a D had something to do with having some kind of Will and that it was somehow inherited.

Necro)Phagist(

Canada6660 Posts

June 18 2015 19:54 GMT

#22087

On June 19 2015 04:45 Gjhc wrote:
But how could he have known the ability? It's specific to the gomu gomu fruit and Luffy seems unaware of it but suddenly Rayleigh tells Luffy about it, so I can only assume he taught it to Luffy.

You're probably right about the second point, although so far most people thought being a D had something to do with having some kind of Will and that it was somehow inherited.

Maybe its the translation you're reading?

The one I read had that conversation going down as basically Luffy saying the beast was too big even for gear 4 and Rayleigh telling him he needs to come up with an alternative or addition to gear 4 as it puts too much stress on his body etc.

Also the translation I read called it the Clan of D not the family, makes me more think of an older tribe, not everyone is from the same family in a tribe right?

It's hard to tell with translations though as either could just be flat out wrong or could both be right just interprating it differently etc.

Gjhc

Portugal161 Posts

June 18 2015 21:40 GMT

#22088

Well yeah maybe some translations are misleading, I just now read on another site and interpreted exactly as you did, that Luffy needs an alternative to gear 4 and Corazon does indeed say the Clan of "D", not the family. And yea, not everyone has to be from the same family in a clan.

Hyperbola

United States2554 Posts

June 18 2015 21:55 GMT

#22089

What if doflamingo has really pretty eyes?
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Mensol

14536 Posts

June 18 2015 22:09 GMT

#22090

i prefer kawaii eyes like this.

Yorbon

Netherlands4272 Posts

June 18 2015 22:13 GMT

#22091

hahahahaha. Wow, never post that again.

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

June 18 2015 22:20 GMT

#22092

He looks like such a nice guy

Sentenal

United States12398 Posts

June 18 2015 22:28 GMT

#22093

So did Doflamingo block the King Kong Gun with his face or his glasses?

Mensol

14536 Posts

June 18 2015 22:28 GMT

#22094

How about this one?

Incognoto

France10239 Posts

June 18 2015 22:30 GMT

#22095

i read a good theory that says that DD is blind in the left eye

apparently all the attacks he took came from the left: sanji, luffy & law

Yorbon

Netherlands4272 Posts

June 18 2015 22:32 GMT

#22096

He looks a bit like mr 2 now.

terranghost

United States980 Posts

June 19 2015 00:32 GMT

#22097

On June 05 2015 09:07 rei wrote:
you are not answering my question because you can't. you have driven yourself into a corner. and you got no way out. you are trying to avoid it right now.

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fill in that blank

burned
Oh are we playing mad libs on this forum now I love that game. A verb ending in "ed". hmmm
The skin "burned" it.

SnK-Arcbound

United States4423 Posts

June 19 2015 00:51 GMT

#22098

It's probably going to be a thing now, posting a character and putting different anime eyes on them. It would make this thread much more entertaining.

TMG26

Portugal2017 Posts

June 19 2015 01:02 GMT

#22099

How would God look like?

Forikorder

Canada8840 Posts

June 19 2015 04:25 GMT

#22100

On June 18 2015 22:49 Necro)Phagist( wrote:

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I've complained a lot near the end of this arc about bad chapters and breaks, dragging shit out etc. But I don't see how this is a bad chapter? I thought it was pretty damn good. Doffy had a bit of fight left in him, Luffy loses it goes Gear 4 again and smashes Doffy's face in. That is a pretty damn good chapter imo. Sprinkle in the flashback speech aboud the clan of D from Corazon and you've got a good chapter right there!

if this chapter had happened when he first used poundman it would have but there was so much filler the fight lost all its tension