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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
July 01 2010 01:21 GMT
#621
Not related to the new chapter but I always wondered if some of the espada were vasto lorde or if Kubo has yet to show them. I'm pretty sure nothing is stated about that, and it makes me wonder if he has forgotten about their relevance :\
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
July 01 2010 01:30 GMT
#622
Clearly, Ichigo (due to the place he's in being time-slowing or w/e) is going to appear right as Aizen is about to kill... uh... that woman. I cannot fathom this prediction being incorrect.
:)
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 01 2010 01:43 GMT
#623
Rangiku is gonna be the death of Gin.

Too fucking bad, as he's probably my favorite character in Bleach besides Urahara
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 01 2010 01:45 GMT
#624
On July 01 2010 10:21 iG.ClouD wrote:
Not related to the new chapter but I always wondered if some of the espada were vasto lorde or if Kubo has yet to show them. I'm pretty sure nothing is stated about that, and it makes me wonder if he has forgotten about their relevance :\

It said they were the ones who took on human shape iirc

the other 2 obviously had none, but the others did.
Though if its beyond that id assume ulquiorra is the only vasto lorde shown(as he had a 2nd release)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 01 2010 01:45 GMT
#625
On July 01 2010 10:43 Gokey wrote:
Rangiku is gonna be the death of Gin.

Too fucking bad, as he's probably my favorite character in Bleach besides Urahara

Gin has had some effect on me.

I find myself smiling like that now, and consciously closing my eyes.

It's weird.

Also why does Aizen remind me of a pony with those legs right now...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
July 01 2010 01:46 GMT
#626
On July 01 2010 10:21 iG.ClouD wrote:
Not related to the new chapter but I always wondered if some of the espada were vasto lorde or if Kubo has yet to show them. I'm pretty sure nothing is stated about that, and it makes me wonder if he has forgotten about their relevance :\


There are currently 4 Vasto Lorde that we know of in the manga : Stark, barrangar, Halibel and Ulquiorra.. the other espadas are Adjuchas, expect for Aaroniero , novino Espada, hes Gillian..

Remeber they said Vasto Lordes were hollows capable of overpowering a captain-class Shinigami and more importantly they resemble humans the most..
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
July 01 2010 01:48 GMT
#627
On July 01 2010 10:45 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 10:43 Gokey wrote:
Rangiku is gonna be the death of Gin.

Too fucking bad, as he's probably my favorite character in Bleach besides Urahara

Gin has had some effect on me.

I find myself smiling like that now, and consciously closing my eyes.

It's weird.

Also why does Aizen remind me of a pony with those legs right now...


I was thinking the same hehe. Ichimaru GIn is by far the most intriguing character in bleach!
There is really nothing sure about this guy.. imo he has his own agenda for sure!
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
July 01 2010 01:56 GMT
#628
On July 01 2010 10:46 CuttyFlam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 10:21 iG.ClouD wrote:
Not related to the new chapter but I always wondered if some of the espada were vasto lorde or if Kubo has yet to show them. I'm pretty sure nothing is stated about that, and it makes me wonder if he has forgotten about their relevance :\


There are currently 4 Vasto Lorde that we know of in the manga : Stark, barrangar, Halibel and Ulquiorra.. the other espadas are Adjuchas, expect for Aaroniero , novino Espada, hes Gillian..

Remeber they said Vasto Lordes were hollows capable of overpowering a captain-class Shinigami and more importantly they resemble humans the most..

It seems very weird it hasn't been clearly mentioned they were vasto lorde and not adjucas though. For example Barrangar doesn't look human at all in his original hollow form and he stands above Halibel (which also seems an adjucas in the flashback). Ulquiorra might be since he seems to evolve further, and Yammi is totally fucked up. Regarding Stark, he might have been one before he separated into two, but his power doesn't really suggest he's a vasto lorde. In the end nothing is clearly explained and we are left wondering stuff. Bleach sucks.
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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
July 01 2010 01:57 GMT
#629
Bleach with Shirosaki is always better - though I kinda agree that Zangetsu does surmise the state of many readers right now.

And no confirmations on any Vasto Lorde yet. Espada 1-4 all have VL traits, but I kinda doubt they were or there would have been some mention of it. That or Kubo changed his mind(or plain forgot) about the importance he placed on them.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 01 2010 01:59 GMT
#630
On July 01 2010 10:48 CuttyFlam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 10:45 flamewheel wrote:
On July 01 2010 10:43 Gokey wrote:
Rangiku is gonna be the death of Gin.

Too fucking bad, as he's probably my favorite character in Bleach besides Urahara

Gin has had some effect on me.

I find myself smiling like that now, and consciously closing my eyes.

It's weird.

Also why does Aizen remind me of a pony with those legs right now...


I was thinking the same hehe. Ichimaru GIn is by far the most intriguing character in bleach!
There is really nothing sure about this guy.. imo he has his own agenda for sure!

I agree--really, what's going to happen after Aizen is defeated (assuming he will be)? Will Bleach continue? Or is Aizen going to rage about for another 400 chapters. Everybody knows that sneaky lieutenants usurp power, and I'd be dying to see that.

Also I thought that the 10 were VLs... my mind may be warped.
*Checks Wikipedia*
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
July 01 2010 02:01 GMT
#631
On July 01 2010 10:56 iG.ClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 10:46 CuttyFlam wrote:
On July 01 2010 10:21 iG.ClouD wrote:
Not related to the new chapter but I always wondered if some of the espada were vasto lorde or if Kubo has yet to show them. I'm pretty sure nothing is stated about that, and it makes me wonder if he has forgotten about their relevance :\


There are currently 4 Vasto Lorde that we know of in the manga : Stark, barrangar, Halibel and Ulquiorra.. the other espadas are Adjuchas, expect for Aaroniero , novino Espada, hes Gillian..

Remeber they said Vasto Lordes were hollows capable of overpowering a captain-class Shinigami and more importantly they resemble humans the most..

It seems very weird it hasn't been clearly mentioned they were vasto lorde and not adjucas though. For example Barrangar doesn't look human at all in his original hollow form and he stands above Halibel (which also seems an adjucas in the flashback). Ulquiorra might be since he seems to evolve further, and Yammi is totally fucked up. Regarding Stark, he might have been one before he separated into two, but his power doesn't really suggest he's a vasto lorde. In the end nothing is clearly explained and we are left wondering stuff. Bleach sucks.


Yeah man, i feel the same about it.. bleach manga is now as bad as it was awesome the first 150 chapters / 65 anime episodes... Only 2 reasons i keep watching/reading it is out of habit + anime fights are still awesome to watches although there the storyline kinda sucks..
But still im pretty sure my estimate about those 4 being Vasto Lordes is correct.. u remember when Ulquiorra says All Espade rank 4 and above cannot use their ressurecion inside Las Noches building? ^^

Leave it to ................... Luck!!
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 02:07:13
July 01 2010 02:05 GMT
#632
On July 01 2010 10:59 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 10:48 CuttyFlam wrote:
On July 01 2010 10:45 flamewheel wrote:
On July 01 2010 10:43 Gokey wrote:
Rangiku is gonna be the death of Gin.

Too fucking bad, as he's probably my favorite character in Bleach besides Urahara

Gin has had some effect on me.

I find myself smiling like that now, and consciously closing my eyes.

It's weird.

Also why does Aizen remind me of a pony with those legs right now...


I was thinking the same hehe. Ichimaru GIn is by far the most intriguing character in bleach!
There is really nothing sure about this guy.. imo he has his own agenda for sure!

I agree--really, what's going to happen after Aizen is defeated (assuming he will be)? Will Bleach continue? Or is Aizen going to rage about for another 400 chapters. Everybody knows that sneaky lieutenants usurp power, and I'd be dying to see that.

Also I thought that the 10 were VLs... my mind may be warped.
*Checks Wikipedia*


I Dont think Aizen is going to be defeated this arc, which is about to end (source: kishomoto interview some weeks ago kinda forgot where i read it QQ) After Aizen's escape/leaving/fleeing or whatever its gonna be power up time and in the meantime some new enemys gonna appear etc etc... Can it be more of a cliche?

One thing though i would very much like to see : Kenpachis Shikai or even Bankai !! zomg!!

Edit: no offense , but please dont look up anime/manga stuff of wikipedia , it sucks...
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 01 2010 02:06 GMT
#633
On July 01 2010 11:01 CuttyFlam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 10:56 iG.ClouD wrote:
On July 01 2010 10:46 CuttyFlam wrote:
On July 01 2010 10:21 iG.ClouD wrote:
Not related to the new chapter but I always wondered if some of the espada were vasto lorde or if Kubo has yet to show them. I'm pretty sure nothing is stated about that, and it makes me wonder if he has forgotten about their relevance :\


There are currently 4 Vasto Lorde that we know of in the manga : Stark, barrangar, Halibel and Ulquiorra.. the other espadas are Adjuchas, expect for Aaroniero , novino Espada, hes Gillian..

Remeber they said Vasto Lordes were hollows capable of overpowering a captain-class Shinigami and more importantly they resemble humans the most..

It seems very weird it hasn't been clearly mentioned they were vasto lorde and not adjucas though. For example Barrangar doesn't look human at all in his original hollow form and he stands above Halibel (which also seems an adjucas in the flashback). Ulquiorra might be since he seems to evolve further, and Yammi is totally fucked up. Regarding Stark, he might have been one before he separated into two, but his power doesn't really suggest he's a vasto lorde. In the end nothing is clearly explained and we are left wondering stuff. Bleach sucks.


Yeah man, i feel the same about it.. bleach manga is now as bad as it was awesome the first 150 chapters / 65 anime episodes... Only 2 reasons i keep watching/reading it is out of habit + anime fights are still awesome to watches although there the storyline kinda sucks..
But still im pretty sure my estimate about those 4 being Vasto Lordes is correct.. u remember when Ulquiorra says All Espade rank 4 and above cannot use their ressurecion inside Las Noches building? ^^


Well i remember seeing a flashback of grimmjow(i did pick up the manga when they were in the real world though..) and he was like a panther shit in the 2nd form, but he turned more human as he grew stronger..

I think all of them are vasto lorde, however they are just varying in strength.. but yeah like said above bleach is just confusing and not good at filling in loose ends
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
blankspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States292 Posts
July 01 2010 02:06 GMT
#634
On July 01 2010 07:52 Fenrax wrote:
How can one Manga that started totally awesome go to being complete boring crap? I started watching Bleach late and watched the Anime and the first 60 episodes were great, a good mix of tension, funny scenes and cool characters, I loved it. Then at some point the false Kurakara town arc started and IT NEVER ENDED. The Manga was getting a bit worse before, but it was still enjoyable but from then on it was boring and uncreative. And insanely long. 3 YEARS now. The last half year or so I just cross read the pages without caring, but now that DBZs Room of Spirit and Time (another shitty concept for a power up Manga that is only there to fix the fucked up storyline) got copied I really stopped reading the Manga, page 4 of the last chapter was the last thing I read of Bleach. I just cant get myself to reading another shitty chapter, which is pretty insane after having read over 400 chapters of something.


I feel exactly the same way. See at least when Bleach started it had a clear and steady progression. Ichigo and his circumstances, a few of his friends, rukia. Then soul society arc which was good and had a pretty awesome twist with aizen as well as epic moments.

Ok then kubo realized something. His manga became popular enough that he could easily sustain by dishing out chapters giving fanservice in the form of battle to every fucking character, captains 1-13, vicecaptain 1-20 and espada 1-9 and ichigo friends 1-5 oh also add on yammi battle and don't forget ulquiorra + ichigo dad + yoruichi show up but just get owned pointlessly.

It's been dragged on so long that any plot development seems out of place cuz it's so rare in the sea of endless pointless battles. Aizen isn't even cool anymore. He never kills anyone just cuz it's part of his fucking plan whatever it is, talks a whole lot without really saying anything.

If kubo had say, made less espada, not wasted time giving battles to every soul society character, not turned ichigo into a retard, and focused more on plot progression (this would cut out 200 chapters) then it would have been better but w/e ofc that's impossible.

Although I don't like naruto much anymore either at least naruto and sasuke are progressing. Wtf does ichigo have to show after 200 chapters? O wow he can hold his mask longer but still gets ownt and has less personality than ever.
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CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
July 01 2010 02:09 GMT
#635
On July 01 2010 11:06 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 11:01 CuttyFlam wrote:
On July 01 2010 10:56 iG.ClouD wrote:
On July 01 2010 10:46 CuttyFlam wrote:
On July 01 2010 10:21 iG.ClouD wrote:
Not related to the new chapter but I always wondered if some of the espada were vasto lorde or if Kubo has yet to show them. I'm pretty sure nothing is stated about that, and it makes me wonder if he has forgotten about their relevance :\


There are currently 4 Vasto Lorde that we know of in the manga : Stark, barrangar, Halibel and Ulquiorra.. the other espadas are Adjuchas, expect for Aaroniero , novino Espada, hes Gillian..

Remeber they said Vasto Lordes were hollows capable of overpowering a captain-class Shinigami and more importantly they resemble humans the most..

It seems very weird it hasn't been clearly mentioned they were vasto lorde and not adjucas though. For example Barrangar doesn't look human at all in his original hollow form and he stands above Halibel (which also seems an adjucas in the flashback). Ulquiorra might be since he seems to evolve further, and Yammi is totally fucked up. Regarding Stark, he might have been one before he separated into two, but his power doesn't really suggest he's a vasto lorde. In the end nothing is clearly explained and we are left wondering stuff. Bleach sucks.


Yeah man, i feel the same about it.. bleach manga is now as bad as it was awesome the first 150 chapters / 65 anime episodes... Only 2 reasons i keep watching/reading it is out of habit + anime fights are still awesome to watches although there the storyline kinda sucks..
But still im pretty sure my estimate about those 4 being Vasto Lordes is correct.. u remember when Ulquiorra says All Espade rank 4 and above cannot use their ressurecion inside Las Noches building? ^^


Well i remember seeing a flashback of grimmjow(i did pick up the manga when they were in the real world though..) and he was like a panther shit in the 2nd form, but he turned more human as he grew stronger..

I think all of them are vasto lorde, however they are just varying in strength.. but yeah like said above bleach is just confusing and not good at filling in loose ends


Yeah i forgot that in my original post though.. Grimmjow Jaggerjack(i so luv that name ^^) was most prolly also one of the VS.. but you say all of them?? first of all we know for sure Aaroniero was Gillian! So imo would be very strange if all of them were Vasto Lordes and the weaker one of them wasnt even Adjucas?? Naah i dont think so
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
July 01 2010 02:13 GMT
#636
btw if you want to read a manga with a lot of superpowered humans fighting against monsters, i can HIGHLY recommend Claymore!
It has all that but better + its full of Hot chicks and near the end even some lesbo scenes *panting severly*
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
July 01 2010 02:14 GMT
#637
this is becoming just like naruto.... defeating your inner hatred/despair to get more power T_T omg....
wonder who the guy is though i have no clue right now
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iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
July 01 2010 02:18 GMT
#638
yeah its obviously ishida's dad.
Woo Jung Ho
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
July 01 2010 02:28 GMT
#639
On July 01 2010 11:13 CuttyFlam wrote:
btw if you want to read a manga with a lot of superpowered humans fighting against monsters, i can HIGHLY recommend Claymore!
It has all that but better + its full of Hot chicks and near the end even some lesbo scenes *panting severly*

claymore takes too long imo
its a good series
cw)minsean(ru
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 01 2010 02:38 GMT
#640
On July 01 2010 11:13 CuttyFlam wrote:
btw if you want to read a manga with a lot of superpowered underpowered humans fighting against monsters, i can HIGHLY recommend Claymore!
It has all that but better + its full of Hot chicks and near the end even some lesbo scenes *panting severly*


That series is on edge with that other world bullshit right now; it's either going to be really good or really shitty, I am leaning towards the latter. It's trying to pull a Berserk.
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