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On November 17 2012 03:20 Indolent wrote:Guys, I just realized something! http://www.mangareader.net/94-49233-20/bleach/chapter-397.htmlDoes that mean Kubo actually planned this whole Quincy thing and doesn't make up stuff as he goes?! Did Kubo think this carefully through over 200 chapters ago?! Controversy arises!
Everyone assumed it was hollow. I think I just found some more respect for Kubo, this isn't all random shit made up every week.
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On November 17 2012 14:31 Zooper31 wrote:Everyone assumed it was hollow. I think I just found some more respect for Kubo, this isn't all random shit made up every week.
no it really is just like how Aizen being responsible for all of Ichigos fights was complete bullshit if that was true he wouldnt have sent Byayuka because Byakuya would 100% insta kill Ichigo instantly upon seeing him because thats waht he does if he was going to send someone hed send pink sakura captain dude whos so chill or hed send Gin and his lieutanant or Tousen and his
jsut because Ichigo being part quincy is random shit made up 200 chapters ago doesnt not make it random shit just like being a quincy is now aparently hereditary and can use blut veine without training
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On November 17 2012 14:35 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 14:31 Zooper31 wrote:On November 17 2012 03:20 Indolent wrote:Guys, I just realized something! http://www.mangareader.net/94-49233-20/bleach/chapter-397.htmlDoes that mean Kubo actually planned this whole Quincy thing and doesn't make up stuff as he goes?! Did Kubo think this carefully through over 200 chapters ago?! Controversy arises! Everyone assumed it was hollow. I think I just found some more respect for Kubo, this isn't all random shit made up every week. no it really is just like how Aizen being responsible for all of Ichigos fights was complete bullshit if that was true he wouldnt have sent Byayuka because Byakuya would 100% insta kill Ichigo instantly upon seeing him because thats waht he does if he was going to send someone hed send pink sakura captain dude whos so chill or hed send Gin and his lieutanant or Tousen and his jsut because Ichigo being part quincy is random shit made up 200 chapters ago doesnt not make it random shit just like being a quincy is now aparently hereditary and can use blut veine without training
why would byakuya insta kill him? he practically did actually but he purposely left him alive because of how weak he was. if byakuya doesnt find a need or reason to kill someone then he wont. he pretty much only kills ppl that he hates or in order to protect SS. he explained that when he fought that black dude arrancar.
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On November 17 2012 15:07 Ballistixz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 14:35 Forikorder wrote:On November 17 2012 14:31 Zooper31 wrote:On November 17 2012 03:20 Indolent wrote:Guys, I just realized something! http://www.mangareader.net/94-49233-20/bleach/chapter-397.htmlDoes that mean Kubo actually planned this whole Quincy thing and doesn't make up stuff as he goes?! Did Kubo think this carefully through over 200 chapters ago?! Controversy arises! Everyone assumed it was hollow. I think I just found some more respect for Kubo, this isn't all random shit made up every week. no it really is just like how Aizen being responsible for all of Ichigos fights was complete bullshit if that was true he wouldnt have sent Byayuka because Byakuya would 100% insta kill Ichigo instantly upon seeing him because thats waht he does if he was going to send someone hed send pink sakura captain dude whos so chill or hed send Gin and his lieutanant or Tousen and his jsut because Ichigo being part quincy is random shit made up 200 chapters ago doesnt not make it random shit just like being a quincy is now aparently hereditary and can use blut veine without training why would byakuya insta kill him? he practically did actually but he purposely left him alive because of how weak he was. if byakuya doesnt find a need or reason to kill someone then he wont. he pretty much only kills ppl that he hates or in order to protect SS. he explained that when he fought that black dude arrancar.
you forget the story they were fed is that Ichigo stole Rukias powers by force
also Byakuya removing all of ichigos power is as good as him being dead from Aizens point of view
considering how easy it would have been for Aizen to have had Renji go alone or with another lietanant its ridiculous to think he planned to have Byakuya and go practically kill Ichigo on the slim chance he manages to get his powers back
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On November 17 2012 15:13 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 15:07 Ballistixz wrote:On November 17 2012 14:35 Forikorder wrote:On November 17 2012 14:31 Zooper31 wrote:On November 17 2012 03:20 Indolent wrote:Guys, I just realized something! http://www.mangareader.net/94-49233-20/bleach/chapter-397.htmlDoes that mean Kubo actually planned this whole Quincy thing and doesn't make up stuff as he goes?! Did Kubo think this carefully through over 200 chapters ago?! Controversy arises! Everyone assumed it was hollow. I think I just found some more respect for Kubo, this isn't all random shit made up every week. no it really is just like how Aizen being responsible for all of Ichigos fights was complete bullshit if that was true he wouldnt have sent Byayuka because Byakuya would 100% insta kill Ichigo instantly upon seeing him because thats waht he does if he was going to send someone hed send pink sakura captain dude whos so chill or hed send Gin and his lieutanant or Tousen and his jsut because Ichigo being part quincy is random shit made up 200 chapters ago doesnt not make it random shit just like being a quincy is now aparently hereditary and can use blut veine without training why would byakuya insta kill him? he practically did actually but he purposely left him alive because of how weak he was. if byakuya doesnt find a need or reason to kill someone then he wont. he pretty much only kills ppl that he hates or in order to protect SS. he explained that when he fought that black dude arrancar. you forget the story they were fed is that Ichigo stole Rukias powers by force also Byakuya removing all of ichigos power is as good as him being dead from Aizens point of view considering how easy it would have been for Aizen to have had Renji go alone or with another lietanant its ridiculous to think he planned to have Byakuya and go practically kill Ichigo on the slim chance he manages to get his powers back
Wait a minute. I think you are forgetting something. The only reason Rukia was supposed to be executed was because she transfered her powers to a human, not because Ichigo "stole" it from her. I think that needs to be stated. The other shinigami hated Ichigo because he was the cause of Rukia's jail time/execution or just because he is human and not "one of them".
And Byakuya doesn't needlessly kill. You have understand the character. He only "clashed" with Ichigo because Ichigo went against him. He loved Rukia dearly but he obeys the laws about what he feels. So he puts emotions aside. Pride is also part of his character which is why he doesn't really ask for help.
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On November 17 2012 18:17 17Sphynx17 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 15:13 Forikorder wrote:On November 17 2012 15:07 Ballistixz wrote:On November 17 2012 14:35 Forikorder wrote:On November 17 2012 14:31 Zooper31 wrote:On November 17 2012 03:20 Indolent wrote:Guys, I just realized something! http://www.mangareader.net/94-49233-20/bleach/chapter-397.htmlDoes that mean Kubo actually planned this whole Quincy thing and doesn't make up stuff as he goes?! Did Kubo think this carefully through over 200 chapters ago?! Controversy arises! Everyone assumed it was hollow. I think I just found some more respect for Kubo, this isn't all random shit made up every week. no it really is just like how Aizen being responsible for all of Ichigos fights was complete bullshit if that was true he wouldnt have sent Byayuka because Byakuya would 100% insta kill Ichigo instantly upon seeing him because thats waht he does if he was going to send someone hed send pink sakura captain dude whos so chill or hed send Gin and his lieutanant or Tousen and his jsut because Ichigo being part quincy is random shit made up 200 chapters ago doesnt not make it random shit just like being a quincy is now aparently hereditary and can use blut veine without training why would byakuya insta kill him? he practically did actually but he purposely left him alive because of how weak he was. if byakuya doesnt find a need or reason to kill someone then he wont. he pretty much only kills ppl that he hates or in order to protect SS. he explained that when he fought that black dude arrancar. you forget the story they were fed is that Ichigo stole Rukias powers by force also Byakuya removing all of ichigos power is as good as him being dead from Aizens point of view considering how easy it would have been for Aizen to have had Renji go alone or with another lietanant its ridiculous to think he planned to have Byakuya and go practically kill Ichigo on the slim chance he manages to get his powers back Wait a minute. I think you are forgetting something. The only reason Rukia was supposed to be executed was because she transfered her powers to a human, not because Ichigo "stole" it from her. I think that needs to be stated. The other shinigami hated Ichigo because he was the cause of Rukia's jail time/execution or just because he is human and not "one of them". And Byakuya doesn't needlessly kill. You have understand the character. He only "clashed" with Ichigo because Ichigo went against him. He loved Rukia dearly but he obeys the laws about what he feels. So he puts emotions aside. Pride is also part of his character which is why he doesn't really ask for help.
why do people always say pride is his downfall? when has Byakuya ever ever shown insane pride that puts him at risk?
did he force Kenpachi to go away while fighting Yammi? no he didnt
did he tell REnji to back off while he deals with the Quincy? no he told him to wait for his opportunity to finish them off
if Aizen knew anything about Ichigo hed know that he would be there to protect Rukia and that Byakuya would cut him down
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If Byakuya hadn't of nearly killed Ichigo then he wouldn't of had the training to regain his powers, almost fail at it and gain his hollow powers. Plus Ichigo would have killed Renjji had he been alone.
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On November 18 2012 03:06 shark. wrote:
If Byakuya hadn't of nearly killed Ichigo then he wouldn't of had the training to regain his powers, almost fail at it and gain his hollow powers. Plus Ichigo would have killed Renjji had he been alone.
what a pity that didnt happen 
I dislike Renji just for making bankais weak.
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On November 18 2012 01:26 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 18:17 17Sphynx17 wrote:On November 17 2012 15:13 Forikorder wrote:On November 17 2012 15:07 Ballistixz wrote:On November 17 2012 14:35 Forikorder wrote:On November 17 2012 14:31 Zooper31 wrote:On November 17 2012 03:20 Indolent wrote:Guys, I just realized something! http://www.mangareader.net/94-49233-20/bleach/chapter-397.htmlDoes that mean Kubo actually planned this whole Quincy thing and doesn't make up stuff as he goes?! Did Kubo think this carefully through over 200 chapters ago?! Controversy arises! Everyone assumed it was hollow. I think I just found some more respect for Kubo, this isn't all random shit made up every week. no it really is just like how Aizen being responsible for all of Ichigos fights was complete bullshit if that was true he wouldnt have sent Byayuka because Byakuya would 100% insta kill Ichigo instantly upon seeing him because thats waht he does if he was going to send someone hed send pink sakura captain dude whos so chill or hed send Gin and his lieutanant or Tousen and his jsut because Ichigo being part quincy is random shit made up 200 chapters ago doesnt not make it random shit just like being a quincy is now aparently hereditary and can use blut veine without training why would byakuya insta kill him? he practically did actually but he purposely left him alive because of how weak he was. if byakuya doesnt find a need or reason to kill someone then he wont. he pretty much only kills ppl that he hates or in order to protect SS. he explained that when he fought that black dude arrancar. you forget the story they were fed is that Ichigo stole Rukias powers by force also Byakuya removing all of ichigos power is as good as him being dead from Aizens point of view considering how easy it would have been for Aizen to have had Renji go alone or with another lietanant its ridiculous to think he planned to have Byakuya and go practically kill Ichigo on the slim chance he manages to get his powers back Wait a minute. I think you are forgetting something. The only reason Rukia was supposed to be executed was because she transfered her powers to a human, not because Ichigo "stole" it from her. I think that needs to be stated. The other shinigami hated Ichigo because he was the cause of Rukia's jail time/execution or just because he is human and not "one of them". And Byakuya doesn't needlessly kill. You have understand the character. He only "clashed" with Ichigo because Ichigo went against him. He loved Rukia dearly but he obeys the laws about what he feels. So he puts emotions aside. Pride is also part of his character which is why he doesn't really ask for help. why do people always say pride is his downfall? when has Byakuya ever ever shown insane pride that puts him at risk? did he force Kenpachi to go away while fighting Yammi? no he didnt did he tell REnji to back off while he deals with the Quincy? no he told him to wait for his opportunity to finish them off if Aizen knew anything about Ichigo hed know that he would be there to protect Rukia and that Byakuya would cut him down
Again you are misunderstanding. When I say pride, it is that he will not go so low as to kill someone weak. As such, Aizen need not worry. Hence, there was no issue for Aizen if it was Byakuya who was going to confront Ichigo.
If it was Kenpachi who feched Rukia from earth, it might have been another story.
Pride is also what he shows (not in a bad way) when he always fights his battles one on one. Pride is not necessarily a bad thing, it sometimes makes them look badass. In kenpachi's case, his pride is that he dish out more than what can be dealt to him. Easy peezy.
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On November 18 2012 10:05 17Sphynx17 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 01:26 Forikorder wrote:On November 17 2012 18:17 17Sphynx17 wrote:On November 17 2012 15:13 Forikorder wrote:On November 17 2012 15:07 Ballistixz wrote:On November 17 2012 14:35 Forikorder wrote:On November 17 2012 14:31 Zooper31 wrote:On November 17 2012 03:20 Indolent wrote:Guys, I just realized something! http://www.mangareader.net/94-49233-20/bleach/chapter-397.htmlDoes that mean Kubo actually planned this whole Quincy thing and doesn't make up stuff as he goes?! Did Kubo think this carefully through over 200 chapters ago?! Controversy arises! Everyone assumed it was hollow. I think I just found some more respect for Kubo, this isn't all random shit made up every week. no it really is just like how Aizen being responsible for all of Ichigos fights was complete bullshit if that was true he wouldnt have sent Byayuka because Byakuya would 100% insta kill Ichigo instantly upon seeing him because thats waht he does if he was going to send someone hed send pink sakura captain dude whos so chill or hed send Gin and his lieutanant or Tousen and his jsut because Ichigo being part quincy is random shit made up 200 chapters ago doesnt not make it random shit just like being a quincy is now aparently hereditary and can use blut veine without training why would byakuya insta kill him? he practically did actually but he purposely left him alive because of how weak he was. if byakuya doesnt find a need or reason to kill someone then he wont. he pretty much only kills ppl that he hates or in order to protect SS. he explained that when he fought that black dude arrancar. you forget the story they were fed is that Ichigo stole Rukias powers by force also Byakuya removing all of ichigos power is as good as him being dead from Aizens point of view considering how easy it would have been for Aizen to have had Renji go alone or with another lietanant its ridiculous to think he planned to have Byakuya and go practically kill Ichigo on the slim chance he manages to get his powers back Wait a minute. I think you are forgetting something. The only reason Rukia was supposed to be executed was because she transfered her powers to a human, not because Ichigo "stole" it from her. I think that needs to be stated. The other shinigami hated Ichigo because he was the cause of Rukia's jail time/execution or just because he is human and not "one of them". And Byakuya doesn't needlessly kill. You have understand the character. He only "clashed" with Ichigo because Ichigo went against him. He loved Rukia dearly but he obeys the laws about what he feels. So he puts emotions aside. Pride is also part of his character which is why he doesn't really ask for help. why do people always say pride is his downfall? when has Byakuya ever ever shown insane pride that puts him at risk? did he force Kenpachi to go away while fighting Yammi? no he didnt did he tell REnji to back off while he deals with the Quincy? no he told him to wait for his opportunity to finish them off if Aizen knew anything about Ichigo hed know that he would be there to protect Rukia and that Byakuya would cut him down Again you are misunderstanding. When I say pride, it is that he will not go so low as to kill someone weak. As such, Aizen need not worry. Hence, there was no issue for Aizen if it was Byakuya who was going to confront Ichigo. If it was Kenpachi who feched Rukia from earth, it might have been another story. Pride is also what he shows (not in a bad way) when he always fights his battles one on one. Pride is not necessarily a bad thing, it sometimes makes them look badass. In kenpachi's case, his pride is that he dish out more than what can be dealt to him. Easy peezy.
Byakuya fights one on one cause fucking everyone fights one on one when the situation offers back up (like against Yammi) he takes it
also considering Byakuya tore apart his sword, then stabbed his powers and left him to die from bloodloss on the road your statement falls on deaf ears if Urahara wasnt around Ichigo would be dead if it was kenpachi he would have just ignored Ichigo since hes not worth his time hed just grab Rukia and get back as fast as he could
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On November 18 2012 01:26 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 18:17 17Sphynx17 wrote:On November 17 2012 15:13 Forikorder wrote:On November 17 2012 15:07 Ballistixz wrote:On November 17 2012 14:35 Forikorder wrote:On November 17 2012 14:31 Zooper31 wrote:On November 17 2012 03:20 Indolent wrote:Guys, I just realized something! http://www.mangareader.net/94-49233-20/bleach/chapter-397.htmlDoes that mean Kubo actually planned this whole Quincy thing and doesn't make up stuff as he goes?! Did Kubo think this carefully through over 200 chapters ago?! Controversy arises! Everyone assumed it was hollow. I think I just found some more respect for Kubo, this isn't all random shit made up every week. no it really is just like how Aizen being responsible for all of Ichigos fights was complete bullshit if that was true he wouldnt have sent Byayuka because Byakuya would 100% insta kill Ichigo instantly upon seeing him because thats waht he does if he was going to send someone hed send pink sakura captain dude whos so chill or hed send Gin and his lieutanant or Tousen and his jsut because Ichigo being part quincy is random shit made up 200 chapters ago doesnt not make it random shit just like being a quincy is now aparently hereditary and can use blut veine without training why would byakuya insta kill him? he practically did actually but he purposely left him alive because of how weak he was. if byakuya doesnt find a need or reason to kill someone then he wont. he pretty much only kills ppl that he hates or in order to protect SS. he explained that when he fought that black dude arrancar. you forget the story they were fed is that Ichigo stole Rukias powers by force also Byakuya removing all of ichigos power is as good as him being dead from Aizens point of view considering how easy it would have been for Aizen to have had Renji go alone or with another lietanant its ridiculous to think he planned to have Byakuya and go practically kill Ichigo on the slim chance he manages to get his powers back Wait a minute. I think you are forgetting something. The only reason Rukia was supposed to be executed was because she transfered her powers to a human, not because Ichigo "stole" it from her. I think that needs to be stated. The other shinigami hated Ichigo because he was the cause of Rukia's jail time/execution or just because he is human and not "one of them". And Byakuya doesn't needlessly kill. You have understand the character. He only "clashed" with Ichigo because Ichigo went against him. He loved Rukia dearly but he obeys the laws about what he feels. So he puts emotions aside. Pride is also part of his character which is why he doesn't really ask for help. why do people always say pride is his downfall? when has Byakuya ever ever shown insane pride that puts him at risk? did he force Kenpachi to go away while fighting Yammi? no he didnt did he tell REnji to back off while he deals with the Quincy? no he told him to wait for his opportunity to finish them off if Aizen knew anything about Ichigo hed know that he would be there to protect Rukia and that Byakuya would cut him down
because he said it himself. even when he was fighting the arrancar that nearly killed rukia he basically told him "im killing you because you pointed your sword at my pride"
rukia is his pride now. this is after the Soul society arch tho in which case he chose his own pride over rukia during that arch. after he was defeated by ichigo he made a new vow to always protect her.
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lol so apparently urahara is alive and well. whatever happened to the unknown guy pointing a sword at his face and whoever was that will be forever a mystery
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Well it makes sense that he would sense byakuya, since Rukia would have an easier time "saving" him from Byakuya than if he had "send" another captain, we dont know if Gin / Tousen knew about Ichigo.
Also, ichigos mother being Quincy makes you remember that his sisters probally has quincy powers as well, and it also explains why Isshin isnt living in SS
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so will it be urahara or isshin. sounds likely enough to be both...
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So basically now even Byakuya's going to survive too? Has Bleach ever actually killed any of the good guys off?
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On November 21 2012 00:04 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
So basically now even Byakuya's going to survive too? Has Bleach ever actually killed any of the good guys off?
Yama died..
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On November 21 2012 00:11 Zinnwaldite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 00:04 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
So basically now even Byakuya's going to survive too? Has Bleach ever actually killed any of the good guys off? Yama died..
"died"... careful, you are talking about bleach here..
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On November 21 2012 00:11 Zinnwaldite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 00:04 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
So basically now even Byakuya's going to survive too? Has Bleach ever actually killed any of the good guys off? Yama died..
There's no body to be found. He's not dead, what's going to happen is some bullshit like thus:
"You killed me with my own Bankai, but because it was my own flames, I am reborn from them like the Phoenix"
And it'll be at some point where Bach is about to kill Ichigo with Yama's bankai, and then he'll jump out of the sword and we'll get 5 chapters explaining his powers, only for Bach to beat him again anyway.
Because Bleach.
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