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I actually liked this chapter.
It explained something the arc had, until now, been missing.
Enemy motivation.
Why do you help your enemy develop a weapon? If you plan on stealing it. That seems to be what is going on/about to happen. With Ichigo's fused fullbring/shinigami powers, Tsukishima can probably now enact whatever his master plan is, be it going to SS for revenge or HC to take control or whatever.
I guess I should correct myself... this makes Bleach sense.
Now you have powerless Ichigo on the ground bleeding, as usual, and Urahara and Ishin can show up, fix him, give him powers to fight back, and we have a very standard arc. I guess the question is how long do the friends remain under control (oblig. bad guy mistake "I no longer need you, so I'll free you and go be evil!" vs. Ichigo getting to keep fighting them (and possibly some people from SS) the whole way.)
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So Tsukushima is the good guy. He cut Ginjou cuz Ginjou was the bad guy. Now he accidentally cut Ginjou again, undoing the spell. Now they're all fucked.
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On July 28 2011 07:49 Flanlord wrote:
Now you have powerless Ichigo on the ground bleeding, as usual, and Urahara and Ishin can show up, fix him, give him powers to fight back, and we have a very standard arc. I guess the question is how long do the friends remain under control (oblig. bad guy mistake "I no longer need you, so I'll free you and go be evil!" vs. Ichigo getting to keep fighting them (and possibly some people from SS) the whole way.)
wasn't there part of a chapter awhile ago of urahara and ishin getting prepared to seal ichigo's powers?
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If Tsukishima really is a good guy and has somehow been a great friend of EVERYONE since the beginning wtf have we never even heard of him before this plot arc? This is totally retarded.
And why would he need to cut everyone else once if he is the good guy? This is super super stupid?
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On July 28 2011 10:57 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 07:49 Flanlord wrote:
Now you have powerless Ichigo on the ground bleeding, as usual, and Urahara and Ishin can show up, fix him, give him powers to fight back, and we have a very standard arc. I guess the question is how long do the friends remain under control (oblig. bad guy mistake "I no longer need you, so I'll free you and go be evil!" vs. Ichigo getting to keep fighting them (and possibly some people from SS) the whole way.) wasn't there part of a chapter awhile ago of urahara and ishin getting prepared to seal ichigo's powers?
Yeah, but they were stabbed by Tsukushima already too.
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I just love how the panels are wasted in this chapter.
Ishida is a retarded, shows up all emo, take 2 pages to shout at Ichigo, then gets sliced.
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On July 28 2011 06:49 dudeman001 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 06:06 travis wrote:On July 28 2011 05:01 KimJongChill wrote:
Wait so whose side are the other fullbrings on originally? Were they cut twice as well? They seemed to feel the same as ginjo beforehand, so I guess all the fulleinga are baddies??? im pretty sure it just really doesn't make any sense lol, just let it go. jlig.
I can't. I need to make sense of this or I won't get any sleep @_@.
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LOL kubo's writing this arc
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On July 28 2011 10:56 Gummy wrote:
So Tsukushima is the good guy. He cut Ginjou cuz Ginjou was the bad guy. Now he accidentally cut Ginjou again, undoing the spell. Now they're all fucked.
No Tsukushima is a bad guy too.... or it's a mindfuck and Ginjou's lying about the "double cut" thing and was really just cut once
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honestly I really have no idea what's going on (and I mean this in a bad way)
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what the fuck is going on... did kubo turn into m. night shamalamadingdong?
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On July 28 2011 10:57 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 07:49 Flanlord wrote:
Now you have powerless Ichigo on the ground bleeding, as usual, and Urahara and Ishin can show up, fix him, give him powers to fight back, and we have a very standard arc. I guess the question is how long do the friends remain under control (oblig. bad guy mistake "I no longer need you, so I'll free you and go be evil!" vs. Ichigo getting to keep fighting them (and possibly some people from SS) the whole way.) wasn't there part of a chapter awhile ago of urahara and ishin getting prepared to seal ichigo's powers?
That was most people's assumption, but I think it is a fairly dumb one... Given that they don't know he has/had any powers when they were meeting, so they didn't know he had power to remove. They were doing something that would 'rob him of his future' which to me would be in reference to his human future/normal life... given that, again, they weren't aware of his Fullbring.
So they're probably planning on giving him powers - most likely Ishin's, which would give cause for his and Ichigo's powers to be identical in the first place.
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whoa what a turning point.. ginjo is the bad guy..
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Kubo just decides suddenly that someone is now a bad guy, with no previous possibility for the readers to speculator or know for themselves. I don't even understand, it would be like suddenly sasuke decides he's good again and no one questions anything. I am just so confused, it's like he suddenly had a good idea and decides to change the plot of the arc.
Or MAYBE, Kubo is actually conspiring with Oda to make One piece more popular. Or Kubo was stabbed by a man who's powers is to make him a terrible manga writer. I find both equally likely and interesting plot twists.
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What Tsukishima actually did was make Ginjo THINK Tsukishima stabbed him twice when in reality, Tsukishima only stabbed him once. Tsukishima then altered Ginjo's memories to make him think that he was actually a bad guy and Tsukishima was the good guy. This way, Ichigo will think Ginjo was the bad guy all along when in reality he isn't.
If Tsukishima was the good guy, there would be no reason for him to implant memories into Ichigo's friends.
Unless maybe ginjo and tsuk were evil all along, but that would be stupid because then it would be "Hey ichigo i'm going to help you get a power so i can steal it from you"
IMO it's fucking stupid.
TL;DR Tsuk is mindfucking ginjo into making him think that he is a bad guy. Tsuk is the bad guy and ginjo is still the good guy.
This is just a theory, though.
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On July 28 2011 15:09 Boozerr wrote:
What Tsukishima actually did was make Ginjo THINK Tsukishima stabbed him twice when in reality, Tsukishima only stabbed him once. Tsukishima then altered Ginjo's memories to make him think that he was actually a bad guy and Tsukishima was the good guy. This way, Ichigo will think Ginjo was the bad guy all along when in reality he isn't.
If Tsukishima was the good guy, there would be no reason for him to implant memories into Ichigo's friends.
Unless maybe ginjo and tsuk were evil all along, but that would be stupid because then it would be "Hey ichigo i'm going to help you get a power so i can steal it from you"
IMO it's fucking stupid.
this is what i thought, i mean like what kind of mechanics is "stabbed me twice" im not really sure how the hell that works because if he gets stabbed once hes under tsukishima but if he gets stabbed again hes not? and then he gets stabbed again now? or did he mean tsukishima had just stabbed him twice...
either way this entire chapter was hilarious nonsense and ULTRA SHOCKED faces
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On July 28 2011 15:12 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 15:09 Boozerr wrote:
What Tsukishima actually did was make Ginjo THINK Tsukishima stabbed him twice when in reality, Tsukishima only stabbed him once. Tsukishima then altered Ginjo's memories to make him think that he was actually a bad guy and Tsukishima was the good guy. This way, Ichigo will think Ginjo was the bad guy all along when in reality he isn't.
If Tsukishima was the good guy, there would be no reason for him to implant memories into Ichigo's friends.
Unless maybe ginjo and tsuk were evil all along, but that would be stupid because then it would be "Hey ichigo i'm going to help you get a power so i can steal it from you"
IMO it's fucking stupid. this is what i thought, i mean like what kind of mechanics is "stabbed me twice" im not really sure how the hell that works because if he gets stabbed once hes under tsukishima but if he gets stabbed again hes not his enemy? and then he gets stabbed again now? or did he mean tsukishima had just stabbed him twice... either way this entire chapter was hilarious nonsense and ULTRA SHOCKED faces
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Wait wait so who is the bad guy now tsukishima or ginjo or both?
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I came here for explanation on wtf happened and all i have to say is fuck you guys. youre supposed to help me out here lmao and yall dont know either 
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