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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On November 08 2014 16:43 ZapRoffo wrote: Interstellar--definitely worth seeing, I thought it was thrilling and fascinating, though a little over-dramatized (cue Hans Zimmer) and humanized for my taste. But it has immense vision and ambition which is refreshing and it restores some of my opinion of Christopher Nolan. I'm very torn on what I ultimately think of this movie. 3 things jumped out as positives. - The greatest thing I can say for it is it made me FEEL something throughout it. - You could make an argument that this had the BEST space visuals of any movie ever. - It never felt like a 3 hour movie. Even though I think some segments could be removed, the time flew by. Having said that I really have to question some of Nolan's decisions. First and foremost, why would you blatantly fuck up so much science? For a movie that is quite literally about relativity, and goes out of its way to revolve around science, why would you purposely get some major elements wrong? Is it really not possible to do a story without impossible science? I have nothing against making up things for situations we know little/nothing about, but some of this stuff flies in the face of what we know. Also, two other things had NO business in the movie. + Show Spoiler + Love and Matt Damon. Dr. Mann was the worst part of the movie for me. All the dialogue in that part was clunky, there was no consequence other than a prolonged way to kill the black doctor and casting Damon was a huge mistake b/c everyone just sees Matt Damon rather than "hero scientist of humanity." As for the love shit, it was just dumb. I tried to give it the benefit of the doubt but it's just laughable in the context of this movie. Plus having the "emotional female" be the one to rant about it doesn't look good either. These are the best humans we have? There is also a lot of stiff dialogue. The fact the most interesting characters in the movie (to me) were the damn robots isn't a good thing either. I do, however, think reviewers are being generally unfair with this movie. Everyone went in expecting the best movie ever and when they found any problems with it they judged it harder than they would a movie they expect nothing from. This movie has NO business sitting in the 70%s on RM and MC. I do think there is a good chance this movie will be seen as a classic decades from now. Blade Runner, for example, was shit all over when it came out and is now considered an all time great sci-fi movie. I think this could take that same route. Overall i'd give it a 10/10 as a Space Opera and a 7/10 as a drama. Overall, a 8.5/10 | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
Mostly just mindless fighting. | ||
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pretender58
Germany713 Posts
On November 08 2014 19:01 Xxio wrote: How many closeups are there of people crying? Far too many. Still an awesome movie though. Directly after Interstellar I saw The Equalizer. Compared to the former not so good, but Denzel Washington´s acting elevated it to an enjoyable no-brainer with some hilarious killing methods. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On November 09 2014 06:54 On_Slaught wrote: I'm very torn on what I ultimately think of this movie. 3 things jumped out as positives. - The greatest thing I can say for it is it made me FEEL something throughout it. - You could make an argument that this had the BEST space visuals of any movie ever. - It never felt like a 3 hour movie. Even though I think some segments could be removed, the time flew by. Having said that I really have to question some of Nolan's decisions. First and foremost, why would you blatantly fuck up so much science? For a movie that is quite literally about relativity, and goes out of its way to revolve around science, why would you purposely get some major elements wrong? Is it really not possible to do a story without impossible science? I have nothing against making up things for situations we know little/nothing about, but some of this stuff flies in the face of what we know. Also, two other things had NO business in the movie. + Show Spoiler + Love and Matt Damon. Dr. Mann was the worst part of the movie for me. All the dialogue in that part was clunky, there was no consequence other than a prolonged way to kill the black doctor and casting Damon was a huge mistake b/c everyone just sees Matt Damon rather than "hero scientist of humanity." As for the love shit, it was just dumb. I tried to give it the benefit of the doubt but it's just laughable in the context of this movie. Plus having the "emotional female" be the one to rant about it doesn't look good either. These are the best humans we have? There is also a lot of stiff dialogue. The fact the most interesting characters in the movie (to me) were the damn robots isn't a good thing either. I do, however, think reviewers are being generally unfair with this movie. Everyone went in expecting the best movie ever and when they found any problems with it they judged it harder than they would a movie they expect nothing from. This movie has NO business sitting in the 70%s on RM and MC. I do think there is a good chance this movie will be seen as a classic decades from now. Blade Runner, for example, was shit all over when it came out and is now considered an all time great sci-fi movie. I think this could take that same route. Overall i'd give it a 10/10 as a Space Opera and a 7/10 as a drama. Overall, a 8.5/10 Nolan's real problem is that his early films bought him a lot of credibility and now no one can say no to him. Interstellar and the last Batman movie could have really used a genuine editor who could have told Nolan: No -- this makes no sense even in the universe you created, lets think about this harder and make it better. He isnt as awful as George Lucas but he is definitely starting to tilt in that direction. I dont think it will be considered a classic: what a movie like Blade Runner did was introduce both a visual element that previously was just sort of imagined and a relatively complex idea. Interstellar's visuals will win it an Oscar but they feel like an iteration of previous possibilities | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
John Wick: 8/10 Don't see this movie is you have a hatred for Keanu Reeves or you probably won't like it. He did better acting than he's done previously imo though. Movie is exactly what you expect it to be. One man killing machine going through bad guys for vengeance. The way they portrayed his character and his interactions with other people were simply amazing and it gave me chills several times. The Judge: 7/10 I feel like RDJ just goes into movies and he's told to be himself, except he's a lawyer now. It's RDJ being an amazing actor surrounded other great actors jut doing their thing. Duvall was really good and it had a lot of funny and depressing moments that hit home to me about dads and grandparents. Snowpiercer: 6/10 Good premise, bad delivery. Seemed weird at times but the universe they created was the only thing that kept this movie enjoyable, some good acting and some bad acting. Ending sucked ass. Recommend every movie but Snowpiercer. But then it's decent enough to see if it's cheap and you have time, be prepared to read some subtitles though, know some people don't like that. | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
Saw this last night. Quite enjoyed it. 3 hours flew by and it had me feeling lots of different things. The only thing I don't get, and it's typical of movies such as this is: + Show Spoiler + If the other beings, 'they', are just future humans, then at some point we had to have survived the dust/blight and managed to come to understand the 5th dimension and get off Earth, making the need for their help redundant. Otherwise, how else could future humans have survived the dust/blight to send Cooper the help in the first place. Potentially paradoxical or degrading to the urgency of the story | ||
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ETisME
12521 Posts
On November 09 2014 17:43 Brett wrote: Interstellar - 8/10 Saw this last night. Quite enjoyed it. 3 hours flew by and it had me feeling lots of different things. The only thing I don't get, and it's typical of movies such as this is: + Show Spoiler + If the other beings, 'they', are just future humans, then at some point we had to have survived the dust/blight and managed to come to understand the 5th dimension and get off Earth, making the need for their help redundant. Otherwise, how else could future humans have survived the dust/blight to send Cooper the help in the first place. Potentially paradoxical or degrading to the urgency of the story + Show Spoiler + remember towards the end, the book shelf scene where you see a chain of same events on top of eachother? I think it's implying the multi-verse theory. Not sure though, but time travel had always been a difficult topic in stories. | ||
Peeano
Netherlands5188 Posts
The Rock is a bamf, but he didn't deliver. Do watch if you enjoyed the Scorpion King movies. But if that's the case, I'd rather recommend you to watch Conan the Barbarian (2011) instead. Sabotage (2014) 6/10 Initially I wasn't going to bother with this movie because The Last Stand (2013) felt so disappointing - even for an Arnold movie. In the end I watched it anyway and I'm glad I did; it has pretty much everything you'd expect from an action movie starring Arnold. The Babadook (2014) 2/10 I really don't get the IMDb rating on this movie. It isn't even a decent movie. I guess the sets n clothes were decent if you care about that enough. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (2014) 3/10 Star Wars meets Avatar. Way too cliché for my liking. I think I'm done with watching movies for a while... Oh, I've also seen the last X-men movie a while ago. Pretty decent. But as a big fan of X-Men: The Animated Series I have to say Bishop's role was incredibly lacklustre! | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
Absolutely fantastic animation and extremely creative. Kids and adults will both enjoy this movie. Plenty of funny moments and references to other existing material. To put it simply, even though it's made by Disney's animation studio and not pixar, it practically feels like a pixar movie. | ||
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3772
Czech Republic434 Posts
Never Let Me Go 7/10 Gone Girl 9/10 Edge of Tomorrow 9/10 | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
It wasn't great but it was pretty good imo. | ||
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Daray
6006 Posts
On November 09 2014 17:43 Brett wrote: Interstellar - 8/10 Saw this last night. Quite enjoyed it. 3 hours flew by and it had me feeling lots of different things. The only thing I don't get, and it's typical of movies such as this is: + Show Spoiler + If the other beings, 'they', are just future humans, then at some point we had to have survived the dust/blight and managed to come to understand the 5th dimension and get off Earth, making the need for their help redundant. Otherwise, how else could future humans have survived the dust/blight to send Cooper the help in the first place. Potentially paradoxical or degrading to the urgency of the story There's a very good explanation here https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/2lrewv/interstellar_explained_massive_spoilers/clxjy4y There's also another explanation that there's a third timeline but that's just being lazy imo. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On November 10 2014 09:28 Faruko wrote: Im watching Mission Impossible 1 just now, my god i love this movie ! That was a time and a place movie, I remember the game on N64, and god damn that was funstrating (intentional spelling) in the best of ways. | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On November 11 2014 04:33 Daray wrote: There's a very good explanation here https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/2lrewv/interstellar_explained_massive_spoilers/clxjy4y There's also another explanation that there's a third timeline but that's just being lazy imo. Hmmm... I'm not a physics guy, so + Show Spoiler + I think of it exactly as he said the other person did, i.e. linearly; there has to have been a time when humanity first evolved or else how could they possibly send the help back through time? Time as a dimension makes no sense to me  . There were a few other theories thrown about as to how humans survived, went on to evolve and subsequently sent back assistance, which ultimately affects the original timeline such that the wormhole was 'always' there (because it 'writes-over' the original timeline), and I get that, but there still has to be the first time! | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On November 10 2014 08:20 Dreamer.T wrote: Big Hero 6 (2014) 9.5/10 Absolutely fantastic animation and extremely creative. Kids and adults will both enjoy this movie. Plenty of funny moments and references to other existing material. To put it simply, even though it's made by Disney's animation studio and not pixar, it practically feels like a pixar movie. Wow i didn't even realize that was out yet! I wanted to watch this as the trailer made me so intrigued. Seems like it lived up to expectation with your rating. Did you watch this in the cinema or is there.............you know of it :D I watched Edge of Tomorrow finally over the weekend and i didn't get why everyone thought it was sick. I rather thought the ending was terrible lol. Oh well, it definitely wasn't as shit as it looked "Oh Tom Cruise, oh look a pretty girl. Oh look Tom Cruise is going ham on an enemy. Oh look Tom Cruise is the hero, oh look he gets the girl". It wasn't at all like that or as bad anyway | ||
zatic
Zurich15355 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + At the very end Murph tells Cooper to go look for Brand. We see shots of her being all alone on the third planet setting up a colony. This makes no sense to me. - Why wouldn't the people from Earth go look for her after they got the gravity equations right and were able to build the Cooper stations? If all it takes is one of the new gliders they have parked right there in the station? I thought it was maybe because the wormhole had closed - but then how will Cooper get to Brand now? This really was the only time in the movie where I was going WTF this can't be right in the theatre. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17432 Posts
On November 11 2014 21:40 zatic wrote: Maybe someone can explain this plot hole I can't solve in Interstellar: + Show Spoiler + At the very end Murph tells Cooper to go look for Brand. We see shots of her being all alone on the third planet setting up a colony. This makes no sense to me. - Why wouldn't the people from Earth go look for her after they got the gravity equations right and were able to build the Cooper stations? If all it takes is one of the new gliders they have parked right there in the station? I thought it was maybe because the wormhole had closed - but then how will Cooper get to Brand now? This really was the only time in the movie where I was going WTF this can't be right in the theatre. There's nothing to understand. It's a plot hole. + Show Spoiler + Although, at the end she walks towards a base that seems too large for just 1 person. I know that it might be habitats for the embryos or whatever else but there's also a possibility that it's actually a functioning forward base with some people sent to help Brand out. On another note, I thought that the first 80-90% of the movie was simply fantastic and the ending was complete crap. I really do hate it when they're trying to tackle relativity, black holes, worm holes and time in SF. They never really get it right. + Show Spoiler + I'm also pretty torn on the happy ending for this movie. I'm not sure if it would be better with a sad ending or one that's uncertain, but anything other than what we got would be better IMO. Europa Report remains the best recent SF movie for me. Interstellar was good, but not good enough and too much of it seemed like "I've seen that before". 8/10 | ||
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