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On May 07 2013 03:47 Zandar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 03:45 ne4aJIb wrote:
why was sansa crying? who was on that ship? Littlefinger, the ship has his sigil, a mockingbird. With 2 feather beds, 1 empty because she chose to stay only to find out she has to marry Tyrion instead of Loras.
Which in my opinion will be better for her than going with Littlefinger.
Theoretically speaking if Robb loses this war Sansa (in the eyes of the Lannister and also everyone who doesn't know that Brandon and Rickon are alive) will be the key to the North... and knowing how ambitious Littlefinger is I can already see what he was planning to do with Sansa!
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On May 07 2013 04:17 duoform wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 03:47 Zandar wrote:On May 07 2013 03:45 ne4aJIb wrote:
why was sansa crying? who was on that ship? Littlefinger, the ship has his sigil, a mockingbird. With 2 feather beds, 1 empty because she chose to stay only to find out she has to marry Tyrion instead of Loras. Which in my opinion will be better for her than going with Littlefinger. Theoretically speaking if Robb loses this war Sansa (in the eyes of the Lannister and also everyone who doesn't know that Brandon and Rickon are alive) will be the key to the North... and knowing how ambitious Littlefinger is I can already see what he was planning to do with Sansa!
He's going off to marry Lysa Arryn though, so he'll be lord protector of the Vale. What would he then do with Sansa exactly? We don't know how much Littlefinger knows or doesn't know about Robb's position or the deal he just made with the Freys. He might be hedging his bets by trying to go off with Sansa, but I'm more inclined to believe it's part of his obsession with Catelyn.
At least Tyrion will probably be a better husband for Sansa than Loras, who honestly couldn't give a fuck about her.
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On May 07 2013 04:17 duoform wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 03:47 Zandar wrote:On May 07 2013 03:45 ne4aJIb wrote:
why was sansa crying? who was on that ship? Littlefinger, the ship has his sigil, a mockingbird. With 2 feather beds, 1 empty because she chose to stay only to find out she has to marry Tyrion instead of Loras. Which in my opinion will be better for her than going with Littlefinger.
And maybe even better than Loras too since she doesn't know he is gay and doesn't really want her.
If Shae and Tyrion are smart they tell Sansa about them, makes things a whole lot easier.
They can just pretend to be married and Sansa can get some other secret boyfriend. Not what she wanted, but the best direction to go from here?
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On May 07 2013 01:09 Zandar wrote:
"dun goofed"
Tried to google it, found some different explanations and I still don't understand what it means lol.
It means they "fucked up". It comes from a viral video.
Anyway, that scene with Tywin and Olenna was great. It's like they were playing a high stakes poker game with each other.
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only four more episodes left for this season =/
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On May 07 2013 04:25 Zandar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 04:17 duoform wrote:On May 07 2013 03:47 Zandar wrote:On May 07 2013 03:45 ne4aJIb wrote:
why was sansa crying? who was on that ship? Littlefinger, the ship has his sigil, a mockingbird. With 2 feather beds, 1 empty because she chose to stay only to find out she has to marry Tyrion instead of Loras. Which in my opinion will be better for her than going with Littlefinger. And maybe even better than Loras too since she doesn't know he is gay and doesn't really want her. If Shae and Tyrion are smart they tell Sansa about them, makes things a whole lot easier. They can just pretend to be married and Sansa can get some other secret boyfriend. Not what she wanted, but the best direction to go from here?
The problem is that Tywin awaits a child from Sansa/Tyrion. If it would just be for the marriage, i dont think it would be much of a problem for the two to act, but to "secure the key to the north" sansa needs to get pregnant from Tyrion and Tywins patience isnt exactly limitless.
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Only thing I didn't like about this episode is when Rickon said "What's happening, what's wrong with him". Was totally out of character...
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On May 07 2013 04:25 Zandar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 04:17 duoform wrote:On May 07 2013 03:47 Zandar wrote:On May 07 2013 03:45 ne4aJIb wrote:
why was sansa crying? who was on that ship? Littlefinger, the ship has his sigil, a mockingbird. With 2 feather beds, 1 empty because she chose to stay only to find out she has to marry Tyrion instead of Loras. Which in my opinion will be better for her than going with Littlefinger. And maybe even better than Loras too since she doesn't know he is gay and doesn't really want her. If Shae and Tyrion are smart they tell Sansa about them, makes things a whole lot easier. They can just pretend to be married and Sansa can get some other secret boyfriend. Not what she wanted, but the best direction to go from here?
loras may be gay but after that scene with the two of them he obviously would still care for her. Littlefinger is a cunning bastard and would make sansa a whore if it benefited him more, and well tyrion is an imp(no offence to peter dinklage he has a good looking wife) and part of the lannister family. She probably just wants to get away from kingslanding and the lannisters.
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On May 07 2013 04:39 EleanorRIgby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 04:25 Zandar wrote:On May 07 2013 04:17 duoform wrote:On May 07 2013 03:47 Zandar wrote:On May 07 2013 03:45 ne4aJIb wrote:
why was sansa crying? who was on that ship? Littlefinger, the ship has his sigil, a mockingbird. With 2 feather beds, 1 empty because she chose to stay only to find out she has to marry Tyrion instead of Loras. Which in my opinion will be better for her than going with Littlefinger. And maybe even better than Loras too since she doesn't know he is gay and doesn't really want her. If Shae and Tyrion are smart they tell Sansa about them, makes things a whole lot easier. They can just pretend to be married and Sansa can get some other secret boyfriend. Not what she wanted, but the best direction to go from here? loras may be gay but after that scene with the two of them he obviously would still care for her. Littlefinger is a cunning bastard and would make sansa a whore if it benefited him more, and well tyrion is an imp(no offence to peter dinklage he has a good looking wife) and part of the lannister family. She probably just wants to get away from kingslanding and the lannisters.
yea loras best option prolly
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On May 07 2013 04:31 wongfeihung wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 01:09 Zandar wrote:
"dun goofed"
Tried to google it, found some different explanations and I still don't understand what it means lol. It means they "fucked up". It comes from a viral video. Anyway, that scene with Tywin and Olenna was great. It's like they were playing a high stakes poker game with each other.
for such high stakes, she gave in so quickly. I would have loved for this discussion to at least appear to take more than just 2 minutes. Talk a little in the beginning, show some other scenes, continue the verbal fight, show some more other stuff, end with Tywin winning. Would have made a more powerful impact of a clash than just a dozend lines. Still good though
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On May 07 2013 04:37 scudst0rm wrote:
Only thing I didn't like about this episode is when Rickon said "What's happening, what's wrong with him". Was totally out of character...
*scratches head* Why was that out of character?
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On May 07 2013 04:24 Whitewing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 04:17 duoform wrote:On May 07 2013 03:47 Zandar wrote:On May 07 2013 03:45 ne4aJIb wrote:
why was sansa crying? who was on that ship? Littlefinger, the ship has his sigil, a mockingbird. With 2 feather beds, 1 empty because she chose to stay only to find out she has to marry Tyrion instead of Loras. Which in my opinion will be better for her than going with Littlefinger. Theoretically speaking if Robb loses this war Sansa (in the eyes of the Lannister and also everyone who doesn't know that Brandon and Rickon are alive) will be the key to the North... and knowing how ambitious Littlefinger is I can already see what he was planning to do with Sansa! He's going off to marry Lysa Arryn though, so he'll be lord protector of the Vale. What would he then do with Sansa exactly?
Kill Lysa after some time and marry Sansa
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On May 07 2013 04:43 Cirqueenflex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 04:31 wongfeihung wrote:On May 07 2013 01:09 Zandar wrote:
"dun goofed"
Tried to google it, found some different explanations and I still don't understand what it means lol. It means they "fucked up". It comes from a viral video. Anyway, that scene with Tywin and Olenna was great. It's like they were playing a high stakes poker game with each other. for such high stakes, she gave in so quickly. I would have loved for this discussion to at least appear to take more than just 2 minutes. Talk a little in the beginning, show some other scenes, continue the verbal fight, show some more other stuff, end with Tywin winning. Would have made a more powerful impact of a clash than just a dozend lines. Still good though
He starts writing the order naming Loras to King's Guard. No real time to negotiate once he did that.
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On May 07 2013 04:39 EleanorRIgby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 04:25 Zandar wrote:On May 07 2013 04:17 duoform wrote:On May 07 2013 03:47 Zandar wrote:On May 07 2013 03:45 ne4aJIb wrote:
why was sansa crying? who was on that ship? Littlefinger, the ship has his sigil, a mockingbird. With 2 feather beds, 1 empty because she chose to stay only to find out she has to marry Tyrion instead of Loras. Which in my opinion will be better for her than going with Littlefinger. And maybe even better than Loras too since she doesn't know he is gay and doesn't really want her. If Shae and Tyrion are smart they tell Sansa about them, makes things a whole lot easier. They can just pretend to be married and Sansa can get some other secret boyfriend. Not what she wanted, but the best direction to go from here? loras may be gay but after that scene with the two of them he obviously would still care for her. Littlefinger is a cunning bastard and would make sansa a whore if it benefited him more, and well tyrion is an imp(no offence to peter dinklage he has a good looking wife) and part of the lannister family. She probably just wants to get away from kingslanding and the lannisters.
I disagree. Maybe I'm a bit too biased towards Tyrion (because I think his character is fucking badass) and it's the only person I like from the Lannisters but from my perspective I think he will make Sansa happier than Loras. Loras would end up ignoring her like Renly Baratheon did to Margaery Tyrell and how look how that turned up..
Remember that the whole shit against the Starks was created because of Jaime and Cercei. Not Tyrion. And Tyrion actually "helped" and showed kindness towards the Starks multiple times. Like offering Brandon the design or whatever for his horse during Season 1 and always protected Sansa from Joffrey in Season 2.
But you are right tho. He's still a Lannister...
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I actually believe Littlefinger is Sansa's best option. He actually loves her and he is strong enough to protect her ( unlike tyrion who is having trouble protecting himself and he loves shae / tysha ). He only wants one thing more than Sansa and that is to be king. He could have taken her away and Varys would have told tywin, but he still would have succeeded. It would have hurt his chances though and we can know he doesn't chase "illusions" like love instead of climbing.
Varys and Littlefinger are the two smartest character on the show by far. Tywin, Tyrion, and Olenna would make up the second tier. Their actions are completely guided by Varys and Littlefinger's battle. Littlefinger defeated Olenna in foiling her plot and feigned loyalty to win the Vale and Harrenhal. He has also bankrupted the crown and I am wouldn't be surprised if the Iron Bank of Bravoos backs him when he enters the war.
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On May 07 2013 04:55 duoform wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 04:39 EleanorRIgby wrote:On May 07 2013 04:25 Zandar wrote:On May 07 2013 04:17 duoform wrote:On May 07 2013 03:47 Zandar wrote:On May 07 2013 03:45 ne4aJIb wrote:
why was sansa crying? who was on that ship? Littlefinger, the ship has his sigil, a mockingbird. With 2 feather beds, 1 empty because she chose to stay only to find out she has to marry Tyrion instead of Loras. Which in my opinion will be better for her than going with Littlefinger. And maybe even better than Loras too since she doesn't know he is gay and doesn't really want her. If Shae and Tyrion are smart they tell Sansa about them, makes things a whole lot easier. They can just pretend to be married and Sansa can get some other secret boyfriend. Not what she wanted, but the best direction to go from here? loras may be gay but after that scene with the two of them he obviously would still care for her. Littlefinger is a cunning bastard and would make sansa a whore if it benefited him more, and well tyrion is an imp(no offence to peter dinklage he has a good looking wife) and part of the lannister family. She probably just wants to get away from kingslanding and the lannisters. I disagree. Maybe I'm a bit too biased towards Tyrion (because I think his character is fucking badass) and it's the only person I like from the Lannisters but from my perspective I think he will make Sansa happier than Loras. Loras would end up ignoring her like Renly Baratheon did to Margaery Tyrell and how look how that turned up.. Remember that the whole shit against the Starks was created because of Jaime and Cercei. Not Tyrion. And Tyrion actually "helped" and showed kindness towards the Starks multiple times. Like offering Brandon the design or whatever for his horse during Season 1 and always protected Sansa from Joffrey in Season 2. But you are right tho. He's still a Lannister...
Guilty by association. Well, associating with those guys and girls is probably a crime.
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-- Nuked my own post. It was a joke prediction, but I am super tired and should not make predictions in this thread in case it is taken as a spoiler.
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On May 07 2013 05:00 hzflank wrote:
-- Nuked my own post. It was a joke prediction, but I am super tired and should not make predictions in this thread in case it is taken as a spoiler.
Nothing wrong with making predictions that come true, this is not a spoiler...
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On May 07 2013 04:59 xavra41 wrote:
I actually believe Littlefinger is Sansa's best option. He actually loves her and he is strong enough to protect her ( unlike tyrion who is having trouble protecting himself and he loves shae / tysha ). He only wants one thing more than Sansa and that is to be king. He could have taken her away and Varys would have told tywin, but he still would have succeeded. It would have hurt his chances though and we can know he doesn't chase "illusions" like love instead of climbing.
Varys and Littlefinger are the two smartest character on the show by far. Tywin, Tyrion, and Olenna would make up the second tier. Their actions are completely guided by Varys and Littlefinger's battle. Littlefinger defeated Olenna in foiling her plot and feigned loyalty to win the Vale and Harrenhal. He has also bankrupted the crown and I am wouldn't be surprised if the Iron Bank of Bravoos backs him when he enters the war.
Little finger don't love shit lol, shes just the key to the north. If you listened to his epic speech he states love is an illusion, all that is real is the climb. She is the key to allow him to climb higher
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