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BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
May 31 2016 10:39 GMT
#30301
Yeah Randill Tarly was great. I get why people say he is a discount Tywin Lannister but he had like 3 minutes of screen time so it's not like he could show a lot besides the strict, disappointed father who basically hates Sam. I think he played it great, if he was any nicer then i might have wondered why he would threaten to kill his son and then be a decent person to him .
Hopefully we will see more of him (which should be guaranteed since Sam decided to steal that sword)!
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
May 31 2016 11:11 GMT
#30302
On May 31 2016 19:39 BlackCompany wrote:
Yeah Randill Tarly was great. I get why people say he is a discount Tywin Lannister but he had like 3 minutes of screen time so it's not like he could show a lot besides the strict, disappointed father who basically hates Sam. I think he played it great, if he was any nicer then i might have wondered why he would threaten to kill his son and then be a decent person to him .
Hopefully we will see more of him (which should be guaranteed since Sam decided to steal that sword)!


the thing is, I don't get the point of stealing valyrian sword, it's like a single sword makes the difference fighting undead horde but it's not, that will only force Sam to run away as quicky as possible from his dad.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 31 2016 11:12 GMT
#30303
I certainly hope they don't turn Sam's story into the "the poor, laughed at fat boy who becomes a great warrior because LOVE" story I can already see coming. Sometimes you have to kill boring characters instead of dragging their storyline endlessly.
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BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
May 31 2016 11:19 GMT
#30304
On May 31 2016 20:11 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 19:39 BlackCompany wrote:
Yeah Randill Tarly was great. I get why people say he is a discount Tywin Lannister but he had like 3 minutes of screen time so it's not like he could show a lot besides the strict, disappointed father who basically hates Sam. I think he played it great, if he was any nicer then i might have wondered why he would threaten to kill his son and then be a decent person to him .
Hopefully we will see more of him (which should be guaranteed since Sam decided to steal that sword)!


the thing is, I don't get the point of stealing valyrian sword, it's like a single sword makes the difference fighting undead horde but it's not, that will only force Sam to run away as quicky as possible from his dad.

I dont get it either. It seems like a "fuck you dad, i hate you!" moment. It's dumb as fuck even though i guess this move will be of vital importance later on where they need something to kill a walker and THANK GOD they stole that sword a couple episodes ago
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 11:28:12
May 31 2016 11:24 GMT
#30305
Sam's story may be used for development of other key character. I read somewhen once that Martin made Lord Friendzone exactly like he is to make fun about such category of males in our society. He also covered him with knight loyalty to make it more complicated, now that info looks more real actually.

There might be some hidden point with Sam

One observation, it seems like more and more ppl watching GoT nowadays, starting to face even different T-shorts with symbols of famous houses (Starks more frequently)
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 31 2016 12:30 GMT
#30306
On May 31 2016 00:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2016 11:11 FFGenerations wrote:
are u sure it felt like 3 days. she went blind then got hit with a stick in the face for a few days

so i still have no idea how she passed the "final test" whilst being disingenuous as shit (as we all suspected)

i guess the lord of light works in mysterious ways

Oh come on. We don't know how much time passed, and this kind of plot hole is almost unavoidable.

Have you ever realized Luke Skywalker did basically his whole training in the time it took for Solo and the Falcon Crew to go from Hoth to the City Cloud?

But Empire would be a weird movie if it stopped for 3 years the time Luke learnt to master the force properly.

To get really good at something like martial art takes years and years and years. So as a story teller, well, you have to take shortcuts. Unless you go full stupid and just upload it in your brain like in the Matrix (talk about missing the whole fucking point about kung fu by the way).


FWIW (and i dont care to read further atm) http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/The_Waif

"for several days"
(dont remember howw long she trained after being blind will have to rewatch the season sometime)
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 13:51:16
May 31 2016 13:45 GMT
#30307
On May 30 2016 23:24 Scarecrow wrote:
Disappointing that Benjen was not at a surprise at all, talking about the future cast should count as a spoiler. How is it fun to look up/know cast lists at the start of a season?

Responding to this one a little late, but it is almost impossible to withhold information in the era of the internet and phones on cameras. Especially on a series as popular as Game of Thrones.

On May 31 2016 21:30 FFGenerations wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 00:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 30 2016 11:11 FFGenerations wrote:
are u sure it felt like 3 days. she went blind then got hit with a stick in the face for a few days

so i still have no idea how she passed the "final test" whilst being disingenuous as shit (as we all suspected)

i guess the lord of light works in mysterious ways

Oh come on. We don't know how much time passed, and this kind of plot hole is almost unavoidable.

Have you ever realized Luke Skywalker did basically his whole training in the time it took for Solo and the Falcon Crew to go from Hoth to the City Cloud?

But Empire would be a weird movie if it stopped for 3 years the time Luke learnt to master the force properly.

To get really good at something like martial art takes years and years and years. So as a story teller, well, you have to take shortcuts. Unless you go full stupid and just upload it in your brain like in the Matrix (talk about missing the whole fucking point about kung fu by the way).


FWIW (and i dont care to read further atm) http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/The_Waif

"for several days"
(dont remember howw long she trained after being blind will have to rewatch the season sometime)


Time has become very flexible lately. But if we are to use the known travel time of two weeks between Winterfell and Castle Black as a metric, at least two months has passed between Jon coming back and where we are. There were messages and news traveling between the two castles that mostly came by courier.

But eh, fuck it, this is what happens when you move everyone to the far corners of the world and being consistent with the passing of seasons becomes really fucking hard. Especially now that they have moved beyond the “we travel 5 miles, now for a new little story about what is happening here” story telling style.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 14:06:29
May 31 2016 14:00 GMT
#30308
On May 31 2016 22:45 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2016 23:24 Scarecrow wrote:
Disappointing that Benjen was not at a surprise at all, talking about the future cast should count as a spoiler. How is it fun to look up/know cast lists at the start of a season?

Responding to this one a little late, but it is almost impossible to withhold information in the era of the internet and phones on cameras. Especially on a series as popular as Game of Thrones.

It's very possible to avoid if you don't go looking for it. It was actually the first spoiler of any kind I've had in 6 seasons. Most people don't go out of their way to check the cast lists of upcoming seasons and episodes. It's fine if they want to check but broadcasting about returning cast members (assumed dead) and their return dates is really dickish. It's very easy to avoid youtube comment sections and the like, the only risk is reading on here but I had faith in the moderation.

On May 25 2016 00:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
btw, we should expect one more important character returning in next episode, also from s1 he told this in his twitter and he's + Show Spoiler +
"uncle" Benjen Stark, night's watch scout

I didn't quote it before because I wanted to protect others, but this crap has no place in the thread.
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
May 31 2016 14:21 GMT
#30309
On May 31 2016 23:00 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 22:45 Plansix wrote:
On May 30 2016 23:24 Scarecrow wrote:
Disappointing that Benjen was not at a surprise at all, talking about the future cast should count as a spoiler. How is it fun to look up/know cast lists at the start of a season?

Responding to this one a little late, but it is almost impossible to withhold information in the era of the internet and phones on cameras. Especially on a series as popular as Game of Thrones.

It's very possible to avoid if you don't go looking for it. It was actually the first spoiler of any kind I've had in 6 seasons. Most people don't go out of their way to check the cast lists of upcoming seasons and episodes. It's fine if they want to check but broadcasting about returning cast members (assumed dead) and their return dates is really dickish. It's very easy to avoid youtube comment sections and the like, the only risk is reading on here but I had faith in the moderation.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 00:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
btw, we should expect one more important character returning in next episode, also from s1 he told this in his twitter and he's + Show Spoiler +
"uncle" Benjen Stark, night's watch scout

I didn't quote it before because I wanted to protect others, but this crap has no place in the thread.


it's like someone forcing u to open a spoiler? u had a choice
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
May 31 2016 14:26 GMT
#30310
On May 31 2016 19:26 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 01:04 giftdgecko wrote:
Anyone else surprised that Sams family believes 2 brown haired not blue eyed people supposedly made a blonde haired blue eyed child. I was like... we went over this in the beginning guys lol.


this is quite normal actually.. So many points you could attack the series at but of all things you choose this which just happens in real life. Brown eyed/haired people can have alleles for blond hair and blue eyes.

I'm well aware of how genetics works... I was more disappointed someone who hates his son didn't make a comment on it. It felt like a good way for the father to show some discontent for the child as well. I'm also not actually upset... It just amused me after how Joffrey was found out by looking at his family history of hair color
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 14:27:33
May 31 2016 14:27 GMT
#30311
On May 31 2016 23:21 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 23:00 Scarecrow wrote:
On May 31 2016 22:45 Plansix wrote:
On May 30 2016 23:24 Scarecrow wrote:
Disappointing that Benjen was not at a surprise at all, talking about the future cast should count as a spoiler. How is it fun to look up/know cast lists at the start of a season?

Responding to this one a little late, but it is almost impossible to withhold information in the era of the internet and phones on cameras. Especially on a series as popular as Game of Thrones.

It's very possible to avoid if you don't go looking for it. It was actually the first spoiler of any kind I've had in 6 seasons. Most people don't go out of their way to check the cast lists of upcoming seasons and episodes. It's fine if they want to check but broadcasting about returning cast members (assumed dead) and their return dates is really dickish. It's very easy to avoid youtube comment sections and the like, the only risk is reading on here but I had faith in the moderation.

On May 25 2016 00:08 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
btw, we should expect one more important character returning in next episode, also from s1 he told this in his twitter and he's + Show Spoiler +
"uncle" Benjen Stark, night's watch scout

I didn't quote it before because I wanted to protect others, but this crap has no place in the thread.


it's like someone forcing u to open a spoiler? u had a choice


If you are going to do that, just label it as a spoiler and hide the whole quote. Not just the specific information. People will naturally fill in the blanks on their own when you say a things like “a new important character next week”. Just hide everything and let people decide who much info they want.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9636 Posts
May 31 2016 14:28 GMT
#30312
I can't side with either of you here. it's definitely inappropriate for the thread but he even told you what he was going to spoil, so opening it is just as much your own fault.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 31 2016 14:30 GMT
#30313
Never mind that this season is past the books so is there such a thing as spoilers anymore? There's only, what, season and a half left of the series...?
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9636 Posts
May 31 2016 14:32 GMT
#30314
I think the topic of discussion is a clear indication of how you can still spoil things re:leaks
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 31 2016 14:34 GMT
#30315
On May 31 2016 20:19 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 20:11 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On May 31 2016 19:39 BlackCompany wrote:
Yeah Randill Tarly was great. I get why people say he is a discount Tywin Lannister but he had like 3 minutes of screen time so it's not like he could show a lot besides the strict, disappointed father who basically hates Sam. I think he played it great, if he was any nicer then i might have wondered why he would threaten to kill his son and then be a decent person to him .
Hopefully we will see more of him (which should be guaranteed since Sam decided to steal that sword)!


the thing is, I don't get the point of stealing valyrian sword, it's like a single sword makes the difference fighting undead horde but it's not, that will only force Sam to run away as quicky as possible from his dad.

I dont get it either. It seems like a "fuck you dad, i hate you!" moment. It's dumb as fuck even though i guess this move will be of vital importance later on where they need something to kill a walker and THANK GOD they stole that sword a couple episodes ago



I think it's a symbolic gesture. The Sam that left Horn Hill for the wall basically felt that he had no right to his family's legacy; that he doesn't have any right or worth to carry on his family.

The Sam that's leaving Horn Hill now is finally starting to turn that around and see his own worth (hence why he comes for Gilly). I think taking the sword is supposed to show Sam's development in self confidence, that he's finally starting to see his worth and value.
Logo
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 14:37:15
May 31 2016 14:36 GMT
#30316
On May 31 2016 23:30 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Never mind that this season is past the books so is there such a thing as spoilers anymore? There's only, what, season and a half left of the series...?

Some things from the books have not happened yet in the show. And some "major" characters have not appeared (or never will :D).
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
May 31 2016 14:37 GMT
#30317
On May 31 2016 23:30 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Never mind that this season is past the books so is there such a thing as spoilers anymore? There's only, what, season and a half left of the series...?


They are still using Sam's plot, as well as Jaime going to Riverrun, Ironborns, it's like they are just took different sequence and there is a possibility of spoiling some of those plot lines.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 14:39:08
May 31 2016 14:38 GMT
#30318
I also think that theres more information within the books, so book readers can come to conclusions that the show watchers cant, sometimes they're wrong sometimes they're right, but either way they shouldnt be posted in here.

That goes the same for looking up shit for potential spoilery characters to show through cast lists and then actually posting it here? Like thats just plain dumb, if u wanna know keep it to urself.
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 31 2016 14:39 GMT
#30319
There's also prophecies and other hints in the book that reveal the likely outcome of some major events that have yet to pass.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 31 2016 14:41 GMT
#30320
On May 31 2016 23:34 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 20:19 BlackCompany wrote:
On May 31 2016 20:11 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On May 31 2016 19:39 BlackCompany wrote:
Yeah Randill Tarly was great. I get why people say he is a discount Tywin Lannister but he had like 3 minutes of screen time so it's not like he could show a lot besides the strict, disappointed father who basically hates Sam. I think he played it great, if he was any nicer then i might have wondered why he would threaten to kill his son and then be a decent person to him .
Hopefully we will see more of him (which should be guaranteed since Sam decided to steal that sword)!


the thing is, I don't get the point of stealing valyrian sword, it's like a single sword makes the difference fighting undead horde but it's not, that will only force Sam to run away as quicky as possible from his dad.

I dont get it either. It seems like a "fuck you dad, i hate you!" moment. It's dumb as fuck even though i guess this move will be of vital importance later on where they need something to kill a walker and THANK GOD they stole that sword a couple episodes ago



I think it's a symbolic gesture. The Sam that left Horn Hill for the wall basically felt that he had no right to his family's legacy; that he doesn't have any right or worth to carry on his family.

The Sam that's leaving Horn Hill now is finally starting to turn that around and see his own worth (hence why he comes for Gilly). I think taking the sword is supposed to show Sam's development in self confidence, that he's finally starting to see his worth and value.

It is also confidence that he will be able to put the sword to better use than his father will. That what is happening is beyond houses and families. I think we will see a lot more character burying the hatchet or just telling the power structure to fuck off because the wall is coming down.

I am still convinced the Wall falls at the end of the season. It is the Chekhov's gun of GoT and that trigger must be pulled. It is the thing that will end a lot of the petty power struggles. As GRRM views magic/dragons as the “weapons of mass destruction” in GoT, the Wall falling is dropping a nuke that ends the current war.
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