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AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
May 17 2011 01:29 GMT
#3001
The dragon skull from the last episode was very cool, from the books it was hard to visualise their size. That thing live in the flesh must have been an absolute monster.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 02:00:20
May 17 2011 01:43 GMT
#3002
On May 17 2011 09:25 Fraidnot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 08:58 mucker wrote:
On May 17 2011 08:18 Fraidnot wrote:
On May 17 2011 07:49 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 17 2011 07:46 Fraidnot wrote:
On May 17 2011 07:21 Bagi wrote:
On May 17 2011 07:15 Fraidnot wrote:
On May 17 2011 07:00 Dystisis wrote:
On May 17 2011 06:47 Fraidnot wrote:
On May 17 2011 06:21 -Frog- wrote:
[quote]

The series never claimed to be high fantasy. What is your complaint here? That some fantasy elements have been hinted at and may or may not be realized?

What's wrong if it's a cocktease? The wonder and attraction of fantasy is lost if you're hit with it all at once and right away.

All at once? Just some would be better then none. I'm not asking for elves and shit, but something more then the occasional blurb that serves only as a: "oh! we've been talking about something not directly relevant to the plot for fifteen minutes, better mention dragons before the audience forgets that this is a fantasy world "

Uh, this series is part of a book series thousands of pages long. The series is set in a fantasy world but that does not necessitate that the story is primarily about dragons or magic or whatever. When fantasy elements are used they are used to further the intrigue and the plot, not to masturbate over superficial fantasy clichés. There is an intentional use of realism in the books, even in how the fantasy elements are described, which helps readers understand the motivations and situations of the people. In other words, I think you miss the point.

By further the intrigue and plot you mean like using dragon names to emphasis an erection?

Are you here to discuss things or just trying to be witty?

Like others said the setting is not "high fantasy", but there are more fantasy elements coming along the way. While the political play could've taken place anywhere, it's not the only thing the series has going on for it. I don't really understand why you think fantasy needs to have all the cliches present to make it relevant.

I'm just saying they're not taking advantage of what's available to fully develop the setting or make things a bit more interesting. They talk about it, but they don't show it. I have said I'm not looking for fantasy cliches(elves and shit), but if it's a set in a fantasy world. They should show it.



Um, maybe you should read the books. There aren't changing anything. This is how it is in the books. If they started adding weird twists then it's not GoT. Give it time, fantasy elements do appear

It doesn't need weird twists it doesn't need to have crazy stuff. I'm just saying that it needs to be evident by it's self that this is a different world instead of constant reminders to the fact. It's a TV adaptation and that means some changes are necessary. I know, in full detail from this very thread that they're willing to change things about the characters so I don't see why it would be such a big deal to give the fantasy elements a bit more screen time. That's all it would take to add a lot of character to the show.


The setting of the story is a world in which magic once played an important role but no longer does. If you want them to add a bunch of magic stuff in you might as well ask for steampunk or sci-fi stuff to be thrown in too.

They constantly reinforce that there were dragons but no longer are: the petrified eggs, the iron throne, the skull in the dungeon. There is other stuff that they show but don't directly discuss such as the Wall itself - they say it was constructed thousands of years ago, how do you think that was accomplished? There are tons of other such subtle hints.

They also said "white walkers" hadn't been seen for thousands of years and that dire wolves hadn't been seen south of the wall for generations. And what did they show you in the first episode?

Pay more attention and I think you'll like the show a lot more.

I see it after you say it, "a world in which magic once played an important role but no longer does" that's an eye opener to me, but I wasn't getting that clear message from the show.


That's because it does not have an important role in the show. It's exactly the same as in the books.

+ Show Spoiler [Vague] +
The nurse woman preaches about creatures over the wall, but it's automatically dismissed by Bran. Jon seems to be guarding something random over the wall that doesn't exist, and it only turns out to be some rebels. You go many, many chapters without any sort of magic or fantasy, and then in the third and fourth books they all explode.


They hint at fantasy because the story does revolve around fantasy+ Show Spoiler +
just not now
.
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Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
May 17 2011 02:03 GMT
#3003
it's a post-magic world. How is that difficult to understand? That's what's interesting about the setting of the series - otherwise it'd just be lord of the rings with sex scenes and liberal use of the word "cunt"
SpectralFremen
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia386 Posts
May 17 2011 02:07 GMT
#3004
On May 17 2011 11:03 Quotidian wrote:
it's a post-magic world. How is that difficult to understand? That's what's interesting about the setting of the series - otherwise it'd just be lord of the rings with sex scenes and liberal use of the word "cunt"


When you put it that way, it doesn't sound too bad at all .

But on-topic anyone who is complaining about the lack of 'fantasy-ness' should just wait for later episodes.
"And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere"
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
May 17 2011 03:10 GMT
#3005
On May 17 2011 06:59 Savern101 wrote:
I must admit I'm a bit annoyed about Renly/Loras. I finished book 1 before the series started and am 200 pages into Clash of Kings. Had no idea about them, but since the series decides to mess up the chronology - Now I do!


I'm on the same boat. I had no idea lol but I guess some of it is spoiled for me now.
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
May 17 2011 03:16 GMT
#3006
On May 17 2011 12:10 Raisauce wrote:
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On May 17 2011 06:59 Savern101 wrote:
I must admit I'm a bit annoyed about Renly/Loras. I finished book 1 before the series started and am 200 pages into Clash of Kings. Had no idea about them, but since the series decides to mess up the chronology - Now I do!


I'm on the same boat. I had no idea lol but I guess some of it is spoiled for me now.


I wouldn't feel too bad. I just started on book 4 and had no idea bout Renly and Loras. It was very very subtle in the books lol. So subtle i missed it.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 17 2011 03:41 GMT
#3007
hoooly shit episode 5 kicked it up a notch
Arkless
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1547 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 06:37:44
May 17 2011 06:36 GMT
#3008
To all those who were mad they didn't show the wolf getting stabbed, and saying people are too sensitive. What about the horse getting it's head lobbed off!
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Arkless
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1547 Posts
May 17 2011 06:37 GMT
#3009
On May 17 2011 10:29 AndyJay wrote:
The dragon skull from the last episode was very cool, from the books it was hard to visualise their size. That thing live in the flesh must have been an absolute monster.



I also agree, when I read I thought the biggest was like maybe the size of an elephant's head, not big enough walk into!

Book Spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +
Can't wait for the eggs that danery's has hatch
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Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
May 17 2011 06:49 GMT
#3010
On May 17 2011 15:36 Arkless wrote:
To all those who were mad they didn't show the wolf getting stabbed, and saying people are too sensitive. What about the horse getting it's head lobbed off!


That part was so awsome.

I'm just hoping our good ol' imp doesn't die because hes to awsome to die :D
anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
May 17 2011 06:50 GMT
#3011
well, it is described in books if my memory serves me right, that the biggest one could eat a whole aurochs in 1 bite.
The aurochs were far larger than most modern domestic cattle with a shoulder height of 2 metres (6.6 ft) and weight of 1,000 kilograms (2,200 lb).
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betaV1.25
Profile Joined April 2010
425 Posts
May 17 2011 06:54 GMT
#3012
Watched the ep last night.


I loved it, Tyrion just owns each set he puts a foot on, Bronn was lovely. Lysa was creepy enough and the mild dripping from the young lords lips was perfect. The Ned-Jamie confrontation was very well done. The mountain and the hound, varys and little finger all very good confrontations.

Arya and Bran were again very good i am actually liking this bran more then the books. The gay scene, i guess it was needed to adjust the story a bit, i didnt need it ... but then again, i allready knew they were gay.


The only thing that i had issues with was ... the king and queen having a converstation.
really, wife to husband. Why are they trying to make this woman nice? It really didnt fit, she controls her legs and with her legs she controls everyone else, not with sweet talking.
Tili_us
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium44 Posts
May 17 2011 08:19 GMT
#3013
On May 17 2011 15:54 betaV1.25 wrote:
The only thing that i had issues with was ... the king and queen having a converstation.
really, wife to husband. Why are they trying to make this woman nice? It really didnt fit, she controls her legs and with her legs she controls everyone else, not with sweet talking.


I think they want to make her more likeable, so when/if she does the nasty bits, it will be even more of a shock... Also I like that the queen and king get a bit more screen time. + Show Spoiler [book 1 spoiler] +
cause the king is going bye bye
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
May 17 2011 08:34 GMT
#3014
The last episode should not have finished..it was epic and felt like it could have gone on for another 4 hours and I'd still be happy!

Looking forward to the rest of the series and my books arriving in the post some time soon... really want to read the books as everyone says they're EPIC!
meiyo
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway81 Posts
May 17 2011 08:43 GMT
#3015
I am sorry, but could someone please tell me who that young man with that prostitute was? I have seen him in a couple of episodes but I have yet to realize who he is
?
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
May 17 2011 08:44 GMT
#3016
Theon Greyjoy, son of Balon Greyjoy & ward of House Stark.
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Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
May 17 2011 08:45 GMT
#3017
On May 17 2011 17:43 meiyo wrote:
I am sorry, but could someone please tell me who that young man with that prostitute was? I have seen him in a couple of episodes but I have yet to realize who he is
?


+ Show Spoiler +
He is Theon Greyjoy, hostage of Eddard Stark after the Greyjoy rebellion, he got more role in the series, because he must introduced, because he will get more attention in the future.
Give thanks and praise!
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
May 17 2011 08:52 GMT
#3018
i have never seen a better tv show than this.

i'm sooooo glad this is a tv series, more than 2 hours to enjoy :D
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Lowell
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany346 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 08:55:21
May 17 2011 08:54 GMT
#3019
On May 17 2011 17:43 meiyo wrote:
I am sorry, but could someone please tell me who that young man with that prostitute was? I have seen him in a couple of episodes but I have yet to realize who he is
?


Its Theon Greyjoy, the Starks took him captive to ensure that the Greyjoys remain peaceful. He was taken when he was very young and grew up in Winterfell, and the Starks were always kind to him. Robb is like his older brother.

Edit: Ninja'd like five times -.-
meiyo
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway81 Posts
May 17 2011 09:25 GMT
#3020
Thank you!
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