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On June 15 2015 15:18 Joedaddy wrote:
Ok~ after a few hours to calm down...
I swear to all things good and right in this world.......... if the GOOD guy doesn't freaking win soon, I swear... for realz this time... I will stop watching...........
Please let something good happen in this stupid show.
T.T;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
The only good guy is the night's king.
I hope jaime finally dies as well, he's sick.
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On June 15 2015 15:18 Joedaddy wrote:
Ok~ after a few hours to calm down...
I swear to all things good and right in this world.......... if the GOOD guy doesn't freaking win soon, I swear... for realz this time... I will stop watching...........
Please let something good happen in this stupid show.
T.T;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
just so that you're clear
who is the good guy?
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In Ramsey vs. Stannis, Ramsey was the good guy obviously.
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GRRM said something and I like it a lot.
He said the "good man doesn't make a good leader"... And I think it's stupid to expect the good guy to always win, if it happened it our world, we'd live in a utopia.
He's trying to tell a story that is realistic based on the physics that exist... It is a fantasy, and it's good that we don't know what is coming next, just like we don't about our world.
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Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 15:18 Joedaddy wrote:
Ok~ after a few hours to calm down...
I swear to all things good and right in this world.......... if the GOOD guy doesn't freaking win soon, I swear... for realz this time... I will stop watching...........
Please let something good happen in this stupid show.
T.T;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; just so that you're clear who is the good guy?
Sansa, Arya (sp?), Snow was supposed to be the good guy... Danarys... Jorah... Tyrion...
I need Bolton to die, Sercy (sp?) can also die... and I need the Martel chick free and the boy king to do so something great.
I NEED a win for the good guys~ PLEASE
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On June 15 2015 14:46 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 14:43 illsick wrote:On June 15 2015 14:37 Integra wrote:
First time in this series I think I'll be able to actually predict something:
Jon Snow will be resurrected somehow by the brothers without banners, they had that fire priest guy that had resurrected one of them like 3 times.
This makes me also question the actual power of the female fire priest since she doesn't seem to be able to do shit compared do what the male priest in the brother without banners has done, and he didn't even need to sacrifice anything to pull it off, he just lays his hand on the person in question and presto thou are healed!
I don't think Stannis will be resurrected though, possibly we could see him as a whitewalker perhaps and his army as undead? The female priest did say that she "saw" Stannis banners conquering winterfelt, she could still be right and they WILL take over winterfelt, just as undead instead of alive. I'm not sure if she saw stannis banners conquering winterfell. I think she said she saw bolton banners being burned. She said it, I'm sure of it. EDIT: Lol ya, Cersei Lannister apparently has frankensteins monster as her new Kingsguard  that made me laugh.
well, the very first scene she says "the lord has shown bolton banners burning" unless your talking about another episode? because that's the only scene from the finale that Melisandre has lines.
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On June 15 2015 15:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
GRRM said something and I like it a lot.
He said the "good man doesn't make a good leader"... And I think it's stupid to expect the good guy to always win, if it happened it our world, we'd live in a utopia.
He's trying to tell a story that is realistic based on the physics that exist... It is a fantasy, and it's good that we don't know what is coming next, just like we don't about our world.
good people can be excellent leaders, as history has shown, but they are not leaders of governments and armies or masses of wealth. They are leaders of revolts against systems of power. But its correct that almost all people in positions of power throughout history have been terrible people. It's kind of obvious, because to be a torturer, slave owner, monarch or CEO of a pharmaceutical company requires you to not care about people to be good at the job.
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I officially hate Olly now, like seriously that little brat has been up to no good. Kills Jon Snow's first love and then betrays him and stabs him in the stomach. Idk why Jon even acts like a big brother to him
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On June 15 2015 15:47 AndreWiles wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 15:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
GRRM said something and I like it a lot.
He said the "good man doesn't make a good leader"... And I think it's stupid to expect the good guy to always win, if it happened it our world, we'd live in a utopia.
He's trying to tell a story that is realistic based on the physics that exist... It is a fantasy, and it's good that we don't know what is coming next, just like we don't about our world. good people can be excellent leaders, as history has shown, but they are not leaders of governments and armies or masses of wealth. They are leaders of revolts against systems of power. But its correct that almost all people in positions of power throughout history have been terrible people. It's kind of obvious, because to be a torturer, slave owner, monarch or CEO of a pharmaceutical company requires you to not care about people to be good at the job.
Yes, you're right. And sometime a good person can be a leader of something big too... Sometimes they are overshadowed by the bad ones, but anyway.
I'm happy that we are moving away from the "the good guy always wins", or the likable person gets what he wants in the end, or at least some retribution. With people like Ned, nothing. Nope - just gone.
And that's powerful, because that's when you're writing an actual story, and not only what people want to hear. It's life, shit just happens, even if it isn't the most exciting. Look at Doran, he has a bad case of Gout... Nobody would want to hear about the downfall of a kingdom because someone got sick and couldn't lead as well or something, but it happens. And GoT portrays so many different elements of history, it's just really amazing.
I think he's even done a superb job, especially at his age to be able to bring together such a masterpiece, it's very impressive.
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On June 15 2015 15:49 MooMooMugi wrote:
I officially hate Olly now, like seriously that little brat has been up to no good. Kills Jon Snow's first love and then betrays him and stabs him in the stomach. Idk why Jon even acts like a big brother to him
He's been doing the right thing based on what he's taught. Come on, how is he supposed to act... Kids get mad and try to rebel, all of them. And he's what, like 9-12 years old?
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On June 15 2015 15:53 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 15:47 AndreWiles wrote:On June 15 2015 15:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
GRRM said something and I like it a lot.
He said the "good man doesn't make a good leader"... And I think it's stupid to expect the good guy to always win, if it happened it our world, we'd live in a utopia.
He's trying to tell a story that is realistic based on the physics that exist... It is a fantasy, and it's good that we don't know what is coming next, just like we don't about our world. good people can be excellent leaders, as history has shown, but they are not leaders of governments and armies or masses of wealth. They are leaders of revolts against systems of power. But its correct that almost all people in positions of power throughout history have been terrible people. It's kind of obvious, because to be a torturer, slave owner, monarch or CEO of a pharmaceutical company requires you to not care about people to be good at the job. Yes, you're right. And sometime a good person can be a leader of something big too... Sometimes they are overshadowed by the bad ones, but anyway. I'm happy that we are moving away from the "the good guy always wins", or the likable person gets what he wants in the end, or at least some retribution. With people like Ned, nothing. Nope - just gone. And that's powerful, because that's when you're writing an actual story, and not only what people want to hear. It's life, shit just happens, even if it isn't the most exciting. Look at Doran, he has a bad case of Gout... Nobody would want to hear about the downfall of a kingdom because someone got sick and couldn't lead as well or something, but it happens. And GoT portrays so many different elements of history, it's just really amazing. I think he's even done a superb job, especially at his age to be able to bring together such a masterpiece, it's very impressive.
"so many different elements?" like what, exactly? the singular element of "everyone is terrible and just watch as we do the same thing over and over again?" like, if you think this story is "unpredictable" or whatever, I don't know what show you're watching. it's the same shit over and over, and now they're rather quickly bleeding out all the depth by taking anyone with a semblance of actual personality, conflict, or motivation and either killing them or turning them into cartoon villains. and of course we had to kill another little girl and maim another one in order to do it, because why not.
but don't worry, I'm sure jon snow will be back.
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khaleesi gonna get herself a brand new huge khalasar, ty
How sure are you that the Dothraki is on her side. They even left her before.
Also Meryn Trant scene is pitiful he looks so powerless without eyes @_@ and yeah im pretty sure Arya is getting wha he did to Meryn thats why she can't see.
I think Jamie will hostage Tristane.. then Dorne cripple guy will be forced to go to war
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On June 15 2015 11:14 jeeeeohn wrote:
"HEY LET'S HYPE UP AN ATTACK ON WINTERFELL FOR AN ENTIRE SEASON AND THEN NOT SHOW IT."
Stannis needed Colossus and FF there... that scene was straight up HoTs surround.
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On June 15 2015 16:11 phodacbiet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 11:14 jeeeeohn wrote:
"HEY LET'S HYPE UP AN ATTACK ON WINTERFELL FOR AN ENTIRE SEASON AND THEN NOT SHOW IT." Stannis needed Colossus and FF there... that scene was straight up HoTs surround.
Plus Yeah. the soldier said almost half has left, but even you double that is still outnumbered by the Boltons which was weird. I thought Stannis had a huge advantage on numbers, so lets say almost half plus some earlier had left it should have been pretty much close in terms of number.
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On June 15 2015 16:07 negativedge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 15:53 FiWiFaKi wrote:On June 15 2015 15:47 AndreWiles wrote:On June 15 2015 15:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
GRRM said something and I like it a lot.
He said the "good man doesn't make a good leader"... And I think it's stupid to expect the good guy to always win, if it happened it our world, we'd live in a utopia.
He's trying to tell a story that is realistic based on the physics that exist... It is a fantasy, and it's good that we don't know what is coming next, just like we don't about our world. good people can be excellent leaders, as history has shown, but they are not leaders of governments and armies or masses of wealth. They are leaders of revolts against systems of power. But its correct that almost all people in positions of power throughout history have been terrible people. It's kind of obvious, because to be a torturer, slave owner, monarch or CEO of a pharmaceutical company requires you to not care about people to be good at the job. Yes, you're right. And sometime a good person can be a leader of something big too... Sometimes they are overshadowed by the bad ones, but anyway. I'm happy that we are moving away from the "the good guy always wins", or the likable person gets what he wants in the end, or at least some retribution. With people like Ned, nothing. Nope - just gone. And that's powerful, because that's when you're writing an actual story, and not only what people want to hear. It's life, shit just happens, even if it isn't the most exciting. Look at Doran, he has a bad case of Gout... Nobody would want to hear about the downfall of a kingdom because someone got sick and couldn't lead as well or something, but it happens. And GoT portrays so many different elements of history, it's just really amazing. I think he's even done a superb job, especially at his age to be able to bring together such a masterpiece, it's very impressive. "so many different elements?" like what, exactly? the singular element of "everyone is terrible and just watch as we do the same thing over and over again?" like, if you think this story is "unpredictable" or whatever, I don't know what show you're watching. it's the same shit over and over, and now they're rather quickly bleeding out all the depth by taking anyone with a semblance of actual personality, conflict, or motivation and either killing them or turning them into cartoon villains. and of course we had to kill another little girl and maim another one in order to do it, because why not. but don't worry, I'm sure jon snow will be back.
I think you're using selective bias. Sure a kid is abused here and there, but it's no means excessive.
Just look at how completely different the characters are, as well as their motives. Look at Jamie, Ned, Tommen, Littlefinger, Stannis, Tywin, Doran, Oberyn, Balon, Joffrey, Ramsay, Tyrion, Cercei...
They are very different people, it is by no means the same shit over and over. Anyway, no need to try and explain this to someone else.
I think this show is amazing, and is better than anything else I've seen on TV. I think the show is less predictable than 99.9% of TV shows out there... And I just think you're too pessimistic. So if you don't like it, don't watch. I've read the wiki for days in terms of total hours, and I am still super interested in it, and just find it all amazing.
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On June 15 2015 16:10 shin_toss wrote:How sure are you that the Dothraki is on her side. They even left her before. Also Meryn Trant scene is pitiful he looks so powerless without eyes @_@ and yeah im pretty sure Arya is getting wha he did to Meryn thats why she can't see. I think Jamie will hostage Tristane.. then Dorne cripple guy will be forced to go to war
At first I assumed she was in major trouble with that herd coming upon her with how they were circling her at the beginning. Then it panned out and there were literally like 100 of them circling her like a storm with hundreds more coming. Like a giant welcome home to their leader. Also made sense why Drogon brought here there and didn't want to go back anytime soon. He thought she'd be safe there.
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To even consider Stannis alive after that is to completely ignore Brienne's whole character. Stannis is dead, dudes.
And I love it, I was so glad when they told him "ey, half your men deserted after you burned your daughter". Of all characters in this season he got what he deserved the most.
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On June 15 2015 16:16 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 16:10 shin_toss wrote:khaleesi gonna get herself a brand new huge khalasar, ty How sure are you that the Dothraki is on her side. They even left her before. Also Meryn Trant scene is pitiful he looks so powerless without eyes @_@ and yeah im pretty sure Arya is getting wha he did to Meryn thats why she can't see. I think Jamie will hostage Tristane.. then Dorne cripple guy will be forced to go to war At first I assumed she was in major trouble with that herd coming upon her with how they were circling her at the beginning. Then it panned out and there were literally like 100 of them circling her like a storm with hundreds more coming. Like a giant welcome home to their leader. Also made sense why Drogon brought here there and didn't want to go back anytime soon. He thought she'd be safe there.
Hmm makes sense..maybe Drogon. But did Drogon even know the Dothraki, as far as I remember, Dothraki had already left Dany before his egg had hatch.
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I thought the whole thing felt rushed. Give like 10 minutes to cersei walking and stannis's whole life falls apart and he dies in 3 minutes.
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On June 15 2015 16:20 shin_toss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 16:16 Zooper31 wrote:On June 15 2015 16:10 shin_toss wrote:khaleesi gonna get herself a brand new huge khalasar, ty How sure are you that the Dothraki is on her side. They even left her before. Also Meryn Trant scene is pitiful he looks so powerless without eyes @_@ and yeah im pretty sure Arya is getting wha he did to Meryn thats why she can't see. I think Jamie will hostage Tristane.. then Dorne cripple guy will be forced to go to war At first I assumed she was in major trouble with that herd coming upon her with how they were circling her at the beginning. Then it panned out and there were literally like 100 of them circling her like a storm with hundreds more coming. Like a giant welcome home to their leader. Also made sense why Drogon brought here there and didn't want to go back anytime soon. He thought she'd be safe there. Hmm makes sense..maybe Drogon. But did Drogon even know the Dothraki, as far as I remember, Dothraki had already left Dany before his egg had hatch.
The khalasar that left her has surely heard the rumors about her and the dragons.
So mby they tried to find her again and see with their own eyes whats going on.
But even if it's a completely different khalasar, I'm pretty sure dany will win them over and add them to her army.
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