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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10881 Posts
May 26 2015 09:11 GMT
#27401
Because she is a teenage Girl in love that was sent away by her parents and now wants to stay?


Thats probably the most relaistic character in the entire Show .
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
May 26 2015 09:14 GMT
#27402
Poor Jorah.

Tyrion beating the shit out of other slaves thou ♥
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 26 2015 09:33 GMT
#27403
On May 26 2015 14:49 parkufarku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 14:49 sertas wrote:
pretty sure littlefinger only wants the crown


how is that possible? he has no royal bloodline or right to rule. No brothel keeper will be able to get it

Might makes right.
Vesimias
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland135 Posts
May 26 2015 09:37 GMT
#27404
On May 26 2015 18:33 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 14:49 parkufarku wrote:
On May 26 2015 14:49 sertas wrote:
pretty sure littlefinger only wants the crown


how is that possible? he has no royal bloodline or right to rule. No brothel keeper will be able to get it

Might makes right.

And he already basically rules the Vale. That guy is so smart he can do anything.
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 09:41:01
May 26 2015 09:40 GMT
#27405
Sand Snake, sick boobs, I approve.
Sam got his shit beaten, yet he got laid, what a boss.
Tyrion the great warrior, huehue.
Also Cersei getting arrested, damn, that was a nice feeling.
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Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
May 26 2015 10:18 GMT
#27406
Really disappointed in Sansa, i expected her to *play the game* and try to build a rift between Ramsay and his father, by telling him stuff like "mothers can die, or baby's can die in their sleep"and then have them fight or at least scheming with Ramsay so he will be the warden of the north for sure and thus make him follow her commands/using him.

Instead she is season 2 and 3 and 4 Sansa :-(
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 13:08:26
May 26 2015 10:36 GMT
#27407
On May 26 2015 19:18 Quateras wrote:
Really disappointed in Sansa, i expected her to *play the game* and try to build a rift between Ramsay and his father, by telling him stuff like "mothers can die, or baby's can die in their sleep"and then have them fight or at least scheming with Ramsay so he will be the warden of the north for sure and thus make him follow her commands/using him.

Instead she is season 2 and 3 and 4 Sansa :-(

You should have learned by now that Starks are not liars and schemers, it is not in their blood. Even Arya seems to be bad at it :D
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 10:41:23
May 26 2015 10:38 GMT
#27408
while i extremely dislike cersi, i also hate the faith people they seem so eugh...the high sparrow i dont think was a main player of the game like he would litterally be nothing if cersi didnt give him power that fact hes in the "game" is cause cersi isnt as smart as she thinks she is (yeah tywin!) but now he suddenly decdies well i know exactly what to do to screw everyone over so i win! yay.
??? wtf, i dont get his response to Olenas threat to pull out of kings landing, okay yeah u have the "many" but alot of the many are cripples, starved, dumb and weak i dont care how many of these guys you have (to a reasonable county standard) a 1000 knights are gonna plow through them in a day.
Who says they even want to fight, sure they're living a shitty life now but what exactly would the septon make them fight for, he has no gold no food (as much as he doesnt want those things, um im sure 99% of people do) he might not break from his will im sure his followers will (maybe no the 10 most closest, but the further down you go the more people are gonna be less inclined to listen when theres a sack of gold infront of them)

Again with the threat of "war" the response the faith could do is just kill the prisoners right? im not even sure that would work thats like the first thing olenna would consider, boom hired 10 faceless men GG no re. they dont even have to be faceless a single random dude got into Brans room in season 1 in winterfell which when manned apparently couldnt be taken down, sure its not manned but the castles got to have a harder layout and more trained guards than the septons have. Those are just idiots with clubs??? Why no just break out magergy and loras kill the septon and just be like fuck you kings landing we're gone! What then what can any of the faith do, march to highgarden and fight on their lands? completely leadless, no war experience with any of them, no supplies, nothing, how could kings landing even come after them, start a war? no food no supplies your dead on the road to highgarden.

I just really dislike the septon story, they explain some of the power they could have over people but really i dont see how any one especailly royalty doesnt just stomp them out with the gold they have (wouldnt even take much, an assassin would have the easiest time of his life there this guards dont know shit about guarding have 1st time experience who no one teaching them.

Anyway enough of that rant (i just hate brutality of almost any kind especially the mob/crowd kind), i never really liked sansa even after her change but i really hope she makes it out the story is really interesting but cringy in a horror way.

glad bronn lived :D that girl is really cute boobs aside. im also glad jorah got to see danny again (even tho she still hates him, at this point ive even forgotten why someone remind me again) i was expecting jorah to go into a bigger arena fight a bunch of dudes make it to the finals (only then does danny attend) and the while jorah is fighting tyrion is his manager or something (making lots of hype and money so the slave master lets them) and in the great finals jorah wins but is super badly hurt and then danny sees him he goes to have to treated for his wounds but then oh no he has that greyskin and he dies in dannys arms (well not literally), but yeah thats what i thougth was going to happen especially with his luck.

Currently maybe hes luck is looking up, danny will be like fuck you tyrion time to die, then tyrion will be like i killed my dad and then varys will come and be like "im already friends with the queen" and then tyrion join, jorah is forgiven, jorah is cured.

Next season danny goes to westros and everyone else dies and she wins, until bran comes and mind controls the dragon but gets trapped in its body oh noes, he kills hodor in a moment he loses control with dragon fire, hating himself and the world he kills everyone with fire maybe a volcano errupts and helps him kill everyone he then dives into the volcano making it explode killing the whitewalkers coming the explosion is soooo big that all the ice in the north melts and everyone is dead.

On May 26 2015 19:18 Quateras wrote:
Really disappointed in Sansa, i expected her to *play the game* and try to build a rift between Ramsay and his father, by telling him stuff like "mothers can die, or baby's can die in their sleep"and then have them fight or at least scheming with Ramsay so he will be the warden of the north for sure and thus make him follow her commands/using him.

Instead she is season 2 and 3 and 4 Sansa :-(

thats a really good point, she could totattly play the game of "kill dads other kid" and the mum, make the other girl ramsey sleeps with also end on bad terms with him, roose ofcourse doesnt approve of the death of his other kid and tries to control ramsey, ramsey in a fit of rage kills him, in his shock (Theon gets behind him and slices off his finger, turning around in pain and shock he screams as sansa and theon beat him to death with firepokers
The end
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Ncutable
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania99 Posts
May 26 2015 11:18 GMT
#27409
I just hope they don't let Varys disappear like they did with the Ironborn, the Brotherhood, Gendry, Blackfish/Edmure/Frey-fuckers and maybe other I forgot. He's Top 5 characterwise imo.
道常無名
Oshuy
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands529 Posts
May 26 2015 11:18 GMT
#27410
On May 26 2015 14:39 parkufarku wrote:
no one cares or asks where robb's little brother (magical one)'s storyline went


Now, another easy one: where is Rickon and is he planning on retaking Winterfell ?
Coooot
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
May 26 2015 11:21 GMT
#27411
On May 26 2015 20:18 Ncutable wrote:
I just hope they don't let Varys disappear like they did with the Ironborn, the Brotherhood, Gendry, Blackfish/Edmure/Frey-fuckers and maybe other I forgot. He's Top 5 characterwise imo.

indeed, I hope he makes his own way to Danny and shows up all surprised Tyrion is alive in an episode or 2.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
May 26 2015 11:27 GMT
#27412
Also I don't get why the guy released Tyrion? and Why Jorah was left in the cage when the fighting started.
AKMU / IU
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
May 26 2015 11:31 GMT
#27413
On May 26 2015 20:27 shin_toss wrote:
Also I don't get why the guy released Tyrion? and Why Jorah was left in the cage when the fighting started.

Why Tyrion was freed I have no idea but Jorah was left because only about half the slaves thought. I would assume after they finished there would be a second round where the remaining slaves thought. They were finding fighters for a big arena fight so it makes sense to select more then 1 winner.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Ncutable
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania99 Posts
May 26 2015 11:35 GMT
#27414
On May 26 2015 20:21 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 20:18 Ncutable wrote:
I just hope they don't let Varys disappear like they did with the Ironborn, the Brotherhood, Gendry, Blackfish/Edmure/Frey-fuckers and maybe other I forgot. He's Top 5 characterwise imo.

indeed, I hope he makes his own way to Danny and shows up all surprised Tyrion is alive in an episode or 2.

For all I care he can go somewhere else and raise his own army or go to Dorne and help them in some way. Just don't let him vanish like others before. I really liked the Brotherhood and Gendry and their stories weren't as developed as Varys' at all.

On May 26 2015 20:18 Oshuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 14:39 parkufarku wrote:
no one cares or asks where robb's little brother (magical one)'s storyline went


Now, another easy one: where is Rickon and is he planning on retaking Winterfell ?

Maybe they need to let him age a year so they can credibly recast him with a more capable actor.
道常無名
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
May 26 2015 12:20 GMT
#27415
Tommen to Cersei: I love her, mother. How can I save her?
Cersei to Tommen: Let me help you, my only son. All I care about is your happiness *sob*
Cersei to Margaery: lmfao look at you now, bitch!
At last, Cersei gets what's coming to her. Who could have anticipated this outcome when dealing with religious fanatics, right?

Also, Bronn is a lucky mofo. Those boobies are amazing.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 26 2015 13:10 GMT
#27416
On May 26 2015 19:38 Shock710 wrote:
while i extremely dislike cersi, i also hate the faith people they seem so eugh...the high sparrow i dont think was a main player of the game like he would litterally be nothing if cersi didnt give him power that fact hes in the "game" is cause cersi isnt as smart as she thinks she is (yeah tywin!) but now he suddenly decdies well i know exactly what to do to screw everyone over so i win! yay.
??? wtf, i dont get his response to Olenas threat to pull out of kings landing, okay yeah u have the "many" but alot of the many are cripples, starved, dumb and weak i dont care how many of these guys you have (to a reasonable county standard) a 1000 knights are gonna plow through them in a day.
Who says they even want to fight, sure they're living a shitty life now but what exactly would the septon make them fight for, he has no gold no food (as much as he doesnt want those things, um im sure 99% of people do) he might not break from his will im sure his followers will (maybe no the 10 most closest, but the further down you go the more people are gonna be less inclined to listen when theres a sack of gold infront of them)

I think High sparrow point was that they might all die but common people all over the 7 kingdoms would hate the Tyrells for it. Also most of the army for any noble are conscripted peasants.
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 13:16:53
May 26 2015 13:16 GMT
#27417

how is that possible? he has no royal bloodline or right to rule

Army and/or marriage
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
May 26 2015 15:47 GMT
#27418
On May 26 2015 19:38 Shock710 wrote:
while i extremely dislike cersi, i also hate the faith people they seem so eugh...the high sparrow i dont think was a main player of the game like he would litterally be nothing if cersi didnt give him power that fact hes in the "game" is cause cersi isnt as smart as she thinks she is (yeah tywin!) but now he suddenly decdies well i know exactly what to do to screw everyone over so i win! yay.
??? wtf, i dont get his response to Olenas threat to pull out of kings landing, okay yeah u have the "many" but alot of the many are cripples, starved, dumb and weak i dont care how many of these guys you have (to a reasonable county standard) a 1000 knights are gonna plow through them in a day.
Who says they even want to fight, sure they're living a shitty life now but what exactly would the septon make them fight for, he has no gold no food (as much as he doesnt want those things, um im sure 99% of people do) he might not break from his will im sure his followers will (maybe no the 10 most closest, but the further down you go the more people are gonna be less inclined to listen when theres a sack of gold infront of them)

Again with the threat of "war" the response the faith could do is just kill the prisoners right? im not even sure that would work thats like the first thing olenna would consider, boom hired 10 faceless men GG no re. they dont even have to be faceless a single random dude got into Brans room in season 1 in winterfell which when manned apparently couldnt be taken down, sure its not manned but the castles got to have a harder layout and more trained guards than the septons have. Those are just idiots with clubs??? Why no just break out magergy and loras kill the septon and just be like fuck you kings landing we're gone! What then what can any of the faith do, march to highgarden and fight on their lands? completely leadless, no war experience with any of them, no supplies, nothing, how could kings landing even come after them, start a war? no food no supplies your dead on the road to highgarden.

I just really dislike the septon story, they explain some of the power they could have over people but really i dont see how any one especailly royalty doesnt just stomp them out with the gold they have (wouldnt even take much, an assassin would have the easiest time of his life there this guards dont know shit about guarding have 1st time experience who no one teaching them.

Anyway enough of that rant (i just hate brutality of almost any kind especially the mob/crowd kind), i never really liked sansa even after her change but i really hope she makes it out the story is really interesting but cringy in a horror way.

glad bronn lived :D that girl is really cute boobs aside. im also glad jorah got to see danny again (even tho she still hates him, at this point ive even forgotten why someone remind me again) i was expecting jorah to go into a bigger arena fight a bunch of dudes make it to the finals (only then does danny attend) and the while jorah is fighting tyrion is his manager or something (making lots of hype and money so the slave master lets them) and in the great finals jorah wins but is super badly hurt and then danny sees him he goes to have to treated for his wounds but then oh no he has that greyskin and he dies in dannys arms (well not literally), but yeah thats what i thougth was going to happen especially with his luck.

Currently maybe hes luck is looking up, danny will be like fuck you tyrion time to die, then tyrion will be like i killed my dad and then varys will come and be like "im already friends with the queen" and then tyrion join, jorah is forgiven, jorah is cured.

Next season danny goes to westros and everyone else dies and she wins, until bran comes and mind controls the dragon but gets trapped in its body oh noes, he kills hodor in a moment he loses control with dragon fire, hating himself and the world he kills everyone with fire maybe a volcano errupts and helps him kill everyone he then dives into the volcano making it explode killing the whitewalkers coming the explosion is soooo big that all the ice in the north melts and everyone is dead.

Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 19:18 Quateras wrote:
Really disappointed in Sansa, i expected her to *play the game* and try to build a rift between Ramsay and his father, by telling him stuff like "mothers can die, or baby's can die in their sleep"and then have them fight or at least scheming with Ramsay so he will be the warden of the north for sure and thus make him follow her commands/using him.

Instead she is season 2 and 3 and 4 Sansa :-(

thats a really good point, she could totattly play the game of "kill dads other kid" and the mum, make the other girl ramsey sleeps with also end on bad terms with him, roose ofcourse doesnt approve of the death of his other kid and tries to control ramsey, ramsey in a fit of rage kills him, in his shock (Theon gets behind him and slices off his finger, turning around in pain and shock he screams as sansa and theon beat him to death with firepokers
The end


Like any government kings are only able to rule if the peasants consent to be ruled. Obviously the Lannisters or Tyrells could try to quash the faith with force. Knights are far stronger than unarmed peasants, but considering these are the same people who are growing your food, making your clothes, etc., slaughtering them by the thousands will only get you so far. I think the point of those scenes is to demonstrate how periods of prolonged war affect the non-noble populace of Westeros, and if they get desperate enough even they can make life hell for the powers that be.

I still think the proper response from Tommen would have been to slaughter them all when they decided to arrest Margaery. Probably not ideal from the viewpoint of appeasing the masses, but you also need to show you have a backbone and that no authority, even the Gods, surpasses the King's. His mom put him into that mess, but he could have gotten everyone out of it right then and there by showing some strength. Like Varys so eloquently said, the Faith Militant only have power and authority if you allow them to act with power and authority and be perceived with power and authority.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 26 2015 22:31 GMT
#27419
On May 26 2015 15:32 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 14:39 parkufarku wrote:
no one cares or asks where robb's little brother (magical one)'s storyline went


nobody gives a FUCK about Bran!

Yeah, honestly last season when it cut to a Bran scene I considered it a waste of six good minutes of episode. I came for the politics and plot twists. His storyline lacks both. Unless he wargs Ramsey's dogs one by one and takes out half the Bolton force. Or a white walker.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 26 2015 23:55 GMT
#27420
Meh the Cersei plotline was so predictable. I mean 'she's not as smart as she thinks she is' from Tywin is true but I hate that they made her retarded. She didn't survive so long on her own because she's an idiot. Putting power to people who make sinners pay while she's the biggest sinner in king's landing. What can go wrong... I hate the faith plotline. The kings/queens ruled with power of force, where the fuck are the guards/soldiers/bannermen/sellswords to make their will happen...

Tommen crying I can't do anything while Geoffrey hanged who ever the fuck he liked. He was a crazy murderous brat but people obeyed his command as the king. Robert never cared about no rules... Tyrells supposed to be the 2nd mightiest house let their two most important heirs rot in a dungeon with no response other than old mother begging people... where's the army they beat Stannis with? It's a break in consistency that makes the houses and the throne itself look powerless, while the powerstruggle between these houses for the throne is the whole baseline of the series. Royalty have power because they have the force to back it up. Fuck this dumb writing. Sorry I ranted about this last week as well but it's ruining the series for me.

Also, if Danaeris has demanded in her contract that they don't show her boobs, please don't put her in scenes where she has to continuously cover them in an extremely obvious way, as that's annoyingly fourth wall breaking in this series.

I did enjoy Jorah showing his fighting skills so all is not lost. Also they didn't kill Bronn which makes me very happy. Theon being a cowardly mutt was also a good choice, he's not a hero type.
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