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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
May 19 2015 02:20 GMT
#27141
On May 19 2015 10:43 Hier wrote:
Who the hell would hate Karl Drogo?


Well, he raped one of the main characters several times.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 02:21:41
May 19 2015 02:21 GMT
#27142
The only thing I can look forward to now is the North mounting a coup against the ***ing Boltons and seeing Ramsay's **** *****ed down his ***.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 19 2015 03:49 GMT
#27143
On May 19 2015 11:20 KadaverBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 10:43 Hier wrote:
Who the hell would hate Karl Drogo?


Well, he raped one of the main characters several times.

But now she is on her way to becoming a rapist herself!
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Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
May 19 2015 04:08 GMT
#27144
On May 19 2015 11:20 KadaverBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 10:43 Hier wrote:
Who the hell would hate Karl Drogo?


Well, he raped one of the main characters several times.


And killed/raped/pillaged lots of innocent villagers too.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
May 19 2015 04:55 GMT
#27145
Kinda forgot how Ramsay first appeared on the show?
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 19 2015 05:51 GMT
#27146
On May 19 2015 13:55 shin_toss wrote:
Kinda forgot how Ramsay first appeared on the show?

He was pretending to be a stablehand and tricked Theon into escaping, then led him back to captivity.
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Ncutable
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania99 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 06:41:47
May 19 2015 06:40 GMT
#27147
Poll is missing Ser Meryn Trant and fucking Walder Frey. Maybe others like the Mountain (for killing Oberyn).

edit: I know there's a limit in poll options. Just wanted to throw in some names.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 07:28:57
May 19 2015 07:28 GMT
#27148
On May 19 2015 15:40 Ncutable wrote:
Poll is missing Ser Meryn Trant and fucking Walder Frey. Maybe others like the Mountain (for killing Oberyn).

edit: I know there's a limit in poll options. Just wanted to throw in some names.

Yeah, I mean, the Mountain didn't actually do much on screen but the stories about him are pretty much the worst shit ever. Literally bashed babies to death. That's worse than what Ramsay has done but I wouldn't put it past Ramsay to do such a thing.
Vesimias
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland135 Posts
May 19 2015 07:31 GMT
#27149
Well he did kill a pregnant lady because she was ''boring'' according to Miranda, so there's that. I did answer Joffrey though, I just couldn't answer anything else.
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 08:07:16
May 19 2015 08:06 GMT
#27150
On May 19 2015 02:29 Vesimias wrote:
I just hope that whenever Stannis takes the North from Boltons he goes on to destroy both the Lannisters and Littlefinger, takes the throne and beats the shit out of Dany and her dragons whenever she arrives, realm saved, the rightful king on the throne, Brienne and Jaime get married, Brann still in the cave, Hodor the warden of the North! #Stannis4king #StannistheMannis

Because in GoT good guys win? Like Stark? :D
Stannis has about the same chance to win as Ned Stark did. Only reason why he is still alive is because of Melissandre.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 08:58:38
May 19 2015 08:56 GMT
#27151
idk, I guess I vote Joffrey. I hate a lot of the people in that poll, but in a good kind of way. My intense disdain for Joffrey made his scenes all the more enjoyable and his death so sweet once it finally came. In a weird way, I kind of miss him even though he was a total piece of crap.

Actually, I think I hate Bran more. Nice Kid, but his PoV segments are boring as all hell and siphon precious time away from the cool characters. Thankfully, that hasn't been the case so far this season ^^
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TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
May 19 2015 09:46 GMT
#27152
On May 19 2015 17:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Actually, I think I hate Bran more. Nice Kid, but his PoV segments are boring as all hell and siphon precious time away from the cool characters. Thankfully, that hasn't been the case so far this season ^^


Bran and Sansa for me.

Specially reading the books. The POV of a dreaming child and 13 yo typical princess is a bit boring. But at least Sansa goes through a lot of stuff and stops being so annoying.
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
May 19 2015 09:57 GMT
#27153
Cersei is the most hated character for me in the whole series. Yeah, Joffrey is kinda bad, but at least he has his damaged genes speaking, lack of good parenting and all other things that spoil a brat like him. But it takes something else to love him and that's what Cersei did. Her mindless hatred towards Tyrion is responsible for creating the rift in her family that ultimately killed Tywin and left the Lannisters in a position of their power waning. Hell, she and Catelyn are probably responsible for half of the bad things that even happened in the show. Worst of all, being put in a position of power, she is completely oblivious to the needs of the people she supposedly lords over, dooming the country and causing suffering for hundreds of thousands of people in her ridiculous quest to over-protect her children. She is cunning enough to utilize her position to eliminate her political enemies, but her actions are irrational and destructive to both her family and the realm in the longer run. Now she will throw away her alliance with the Tyrells, possibly causing another war and hunger (after already causing the war of the five kinds) just because Margaery spends more time with Tommen than she likes.

I hate that bitch. I hate her with a passion and I will wear a wide smile the day she dies, provided she does.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
May 19 2015 10:11 GMT
#27154
Watching The Theory of Everything and I noticed that one of Stephen's sister is Myranda. Cool!
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Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
May 19 2015 18:02 GMT
#27155
Kinda getting tired of the show. The dorne scenes are horrible. Why in hell would Roos Bolton marry Sansa to Ramsey ? Does he not know the Lannisters hate her ? What is in for him and his family ? He already is warden of the north no need fpr Sansa.
This whole religious movement in Kings Landing is also coming out of nowhere I feel. I'm pretty sure there would be enough powerful people in the city that would shut down a movement like this from the beginning.

Also Margaery basicaly has no power at all ? When Cersei was queen she was always escorted by the Kings Guard. And Margaery cant do anything to get her brother free and is now even arrested herself ? As the fucking Queen ?

KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44056 Posts
May 19 2015 18:09 GMT
#27156
On May 20 2015 03:02 Kenpark wrote:
Kinda getting tired of the show. The dorne scenes are horrible. Why in hell would Roos Bolton marry Sansa to Ramsey ? Does he not know the Lannisters hate her ? What is in for him and his family ? He already is warden of the north no need fpr Sansa.
This whole religious movement in Kings Landing is also coming out of nowhere I feel. I'm pretty sure there would be enough powerful people in the city that would shut down a movement like this from the beginning.

Also Margaery basicaly has no power at all ? When Cersei was queen she was always escorted by the Kings Guard. And Margaery cant do anything to get her brother free and is now even arrested herself ? As the fucking Queen ?


Tywin is dead and the north hate the Boltons. The marriage makes sense.
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Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 18:24:28
May 19 2015 18:22 GMT
#27157
On May 20 2015 03:02 Kenpark wrote:
Kinda getting tired of the show. The dorne scenes are horrible. Why in hell would Roos Bolton marry Sansa to Ramsey ? Does he not know the Lannisters hate her ? What is in for him and his family ? He already is warden of the north no need fpr Sansa.
This whole religious movement in Kings Landing is also coming out of nowhere I feel. I'm pretty sure there would be enough powerful people in the city that would shut down a movement like this from the beginning.

Also Margaery basicaly has no power at all ? When Cersei was queen she was always escorted by the Kings Guard. And Margaery cant do anything to get her brother free and is now even arrested herself ? As the fucking Queen ?



1. I'm hoping the Dorne scenes pick up.
2. Roose is warden in name, but to actually be stable and powerful, he needs the true loyalty of the lords. He has no standing army as Warden, only his own guys and any lords he can convince to follow him. Marrying into the Stark line helps get people lined up behind him.
3. Peasant rebellions and religious revivals were common in times of turbulence, as was the concept that they would direct ire against decadence perceived in the nobility. However, usually they were not coopted by royal authorities (and the notable exception led to the Protestant Reformation), but instead were unceremoniously stamped out. Cersei is hoping to win their favor through patronage. It seems to be working; at least for now, they aren't really going after her and her clan despite them doing all sorts of stuff a million times worse than the Tyrells.
4. The Tyrells are still kinda not believing that Cersei is that fucking crazy. They assume (perhaps rightly?) that she has a gameplan and is trying to pressure them for some reason. As for the kingsguard, my impression is that they serve the king, and also have their personal loyalties. Most (all?) are loyal to Cersei, though they seem to take orders from Tommen.
Edit:
Also, no, the queen has basically no formal power. So far the queen mother has been staying on top by focusing on running the small council, while the queen has been playing a long game trying to win the king against his mother.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 19 2015 18:24 GMT
#27158
On May 20 2015 03:09 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:02 Kenpark wrote:
Kinda getting tired of the show. The dorne scenes are horrible. Why in hell would Roos Bolton marry Sansa to Ramsey ? Does he not know the Lannisters hate her ? What is in for him and his family ? He already is warden of the north no need fpr Sansa.
This whole religious movement in Kings Landing is also coming out of nowhere I feel. I'm pretty sure there would be enough powerful people in the city that would shut down a movement like this from the beginning.

Also Margaery basicaly has no power at all ? When Cersei was queen she was always escorted by the Kings Guard. And Margaery cant do anything to get her brother free and is now even arrested herself ? As the fucking Queen ?


Tywin is dead and the north hate the Boltons. The marriage makes sense.



Why would they give up being Wardens of the north just to have a figure head Stark wife? Seems like a lot to give up for minimal gain. Who is left in the north for the Boltons to even care besides Stannis? There weren't any other northern lords at the wedding. If they cared about having a Stark wed a Bolton at all you would expect they would attend. Or at least be mentioned. Now they are enemies of the crown and no longer Warden's of the North, but at least they shored up their claim with what ever northerners who are left who probably still hate them
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
May 19 2015 18:29 GMT
#27159
On May 20 2015 03:24 karazax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:09 KwarK wrote:
On May 20 2015 03:02 Kenpark wrote:
Kinda getting tired of the show. The dorne scenes are horrible. Why in hell would Roos Bolton marry Sansa to Ramsey ? Does he not know the Lannisters hate her ? What is in for him and his family ? He already is warden of the north no need fpr Sansa.
This whole religious movement in Kings Landing is also coming out of nowhere I feel. I'm pretty sure there would be enough powerful people in the city that would shut down a movement like this from the beginning.

Also Margaery basicaly has no power at all ? When Cersei was queen she was always escorted by the Kings Guard. And Margaery cant do anything to get her brother free and is now even arrested herself ? As the fucking Queen ?


Tywin is dead and the north hate the Boltons. The marriage makes sense.



Why would they give up being Wardens of the north just to have a figure head Stark wife? Seems like a lot to give up for minimal gain. Who is left in the north for the Boltons to even care besides Stannis? There weren't any other northern lords at the wedding. If they cared about having a Stark wed a Bolton at all you would expect they would attend. Or at least be mentioned. Now they are enemies of the crown and no longer Warden's of the North, but at least they shored up their claim with what ever northerners who are left who probably still hate them


They are still Wardens of the north. Part of Bolton's calculus was that Cersei wouldn't care enough to go to war over it, and naming another Warden means going to war. Cersei in fact seems to be okay with Littlefinger doing his thing, but presumably plans to not personally interfere, which in practice means recognizing whoever wins the fight and not worrying about it.

Littlefinger's endgame is harder to read. It's possible he means to show up with an army of the Vale and just defect to Stannis. It's also possible he recognizes Stannis as a threat (ideologically, they're pretty incompatible and it would be a disaster for Littlefinger if Stannis took the throne) and plans to support the Boltons or something else entirely.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44056 Posts
May 19 2015 18:30 GMT
#27160
On May 20 2015 03:24 karazax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:09 KwarK wrote:
On May 20 2015 03:02 Kenpark wrote:
Kinda getting tired of the show. The dorne scenes are horrible. Why in hell would Roos Bolton marry Sansa to Ramsey ? Does he not know the Lannisters hate her ? What is in for him and his family ? He already is warden of the north no need fpr Sansa.
This whole religious movement in Kings Landing is also coming out of nowhere I feel. I'm pretty sure there would be enough powerful people in the city that would shut down a movement like this from the beginning.

Also Margaery basicaly has no power at all ? When Cersei was queen she was always escorted by the Kings Guard. And Margaery cant do anything to get her brother free and is now even arrested herself ? As the fucking Queen ?


Tywin is dead and the north hate the Boltons. The marriage makes sense.



Why would they give up being Wardens of the north just to have a figure head Stark wife? Seems like a lot to give up for minimal gain. Who is left in the north for the Boltons to even care besides Stannis? There weren't any other northern lords at the wedding. If they cared about having a Stark wed a Bolton at all you would expect they would attend. Or at least be mentioned. Now they are enemies of the crown and no longer Warden's of the North, but at least they shored up their claim with what ever northerners who are left who probably still hate them

If not Sansa's children, who? She's the last Stark left as far as they know.
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