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TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
May 13 2015 13:36 GMT
#26981
On May 13 2015 20:59 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 10:03 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On May 13 2015 09:45 shin_toss wrote:
Wtf Jorah .. What the hell are they doing there in the first place? (kinda fell a sleep a couple of times while watching bec I watched it really late) Could they just those rocky islands?. Also Im scared for Jon. the Viking may betray him if he goes with him T_T


If you look at the map of Essos, to get to Meereen from Bravos:

http://s137.photobucket.com/user/Michaelangelo24/media/Game of Thrones/Essos2.jpg.html

You must go through the Smoking Sea, unless you want to take a big detour south - or walk.

The other factor is that a lot of the time, this might be mostly rumors, and Jorah could have easily thought that it's something very unlikely to happen.

The were in Volantis, not Braavos. Although it doesnt change the path =)


Volantis is where Tyrion was kidnapped. Pentos is the start of the journey.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
May 13 2015 13:39 GMT
#26982
On May 13 2015 22:36 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 20:59 oGoZenob wrote:
On May 13 2015 10:03 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On May 13 2015 09:45 shin_toss wrote:
Wtf Jorah .. What the hell are they doing there in the first place? (kinda fell a sleep a couple of times while watching bec I watched it really late) Could they just those rocky islands?. Also Im scared for Jon. the Viking may betray him if he goes with him T_T


If you look at the map of Essos, to get to Meereen from Bravos:

http://s137.photobucket.com/user/Michaelangelo24/media/Game of Thrones/Essos2.jpg.html

You must go through the Smoking Sea, unless you want to take a big detour south - or walk.

The other factor is that a lot of the time, this might be mostly rumors, and Jorah could have easily thought that it's something very unlikely to happen.

The were in Volantis, not Braavos. Although it doesnt change the path =)


Volantis is where Tyrion was kidnapped. Pentos is the start of the journey.

Yeah i was talking about the boat ride, it was from volantis to meereen
I like starcraft
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 13 2015 13:42 GMT
#26983
On May 13 2015 22:14 frontliner2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 22:03 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 13 2015 21:45 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 13 2015 21:31 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 13 2015 18:02 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 13 2015 17:51 Steveling wrote:
I wonder now that danny will probably fix the situation in mereen if she will move on.
Mby have her "husband" stay there in her name and support her financially while she sails to take back westeros.

She needs het dragons back. She wont be able to conquer Westeros with just the Unsullied.

It seems she cannot conquer peasants with unsullied alone :D

I would argue that there is a difference between conquest and the guerrilla war the Sons of the Harpy are waging.

A parallel to what happened in Iraq (which I would guess is no coincidence).

These peasants don't have access to bombs and AK-47s. Much harder to be effective when you have to go into melee vs "best fighters" in the known world.


Modern day insurgents don't have Abraham Tanks, Helicopters and Fighter Jets, Combat Drones and Battleships and Tomahawks.

we can make some comparison.

Most of these are useless vs urban guerilla fighters. Those fight normally come down to infantry vs infantry and bombs and firearms are great skill equalizers. And Peasants in Mereen don't have those.
frontliner2
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands844 Posts
May 13 2015 14:12 GMT
#26984
On May 13 2015 22:42 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 22:14 frontliner2 wrote:
On May 13 2015 22:03 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 13 2015 21:45 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 13 2015 21:31 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 13 2015 18:02 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 13 2015 17:51 Steveling wrote:
I wonder now that danny will probably fix the situation in mereen if she will move on.
Mby have her "husband" stay there in her name and support her financially while she sails to take back westeros.

She needs het dragons back. She wont be able to conquer Westeros with just the Unsullied.

It seems she cannot conquer peasants with unsullied alone :D

I would argue that there is a difference between conquest and the guerrilla war the Sons of the Harpy are waging.

A parallel to what happened in Iraq (which I would guess is no coincidence).

These peasants don't have access to bombs and AK-47s. Much harder to be effective when you have to go into melee vs "best fighters" in the known world.


Modern day insurgents don't have Abraham Tanks, Helicopters and Fighter Jets, Combat Drones and Battleships and Tomahawks.

we can make some comparison.

Most of these are useless vs urban guerilla fighters. Those fight normally come down to infantry vs infantry and bombs and firearms are great skill equalizers. And Peasants in Mereen don't have those.


True, but still logistical support, marine equipment and training etc are far better than that of an insurgent. So is command generally.
I had a bad dream. Don't be afraid, bad dreams are only dreams. What a time you chose to be born in...
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23885 Posts
May 13 2015 17:37 GMT
#26985
On May 13 2015 23:12 frontliner2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 22:42 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 13 2015 22:14 frontliner2 wrote:
On May 13 2015 22:03 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 13 2015 21:45 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 13 2015 21:31 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 13 2015 18:02 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 13 2015 17:51 Steveling wrote:
I wonder now that danny will probably fix the situation in mereen if she will move on.
Mby have her "husband" stay there in her name and support her financially while she sails to take back westeros.

She needs het dragons back. She wont be able to conquer Westeros with just the Unsullied.

It seems she cannot conquer peasants with unsullied alone :D

I would argue that there is a difference between conquest and the guerrilla war the Sons of the Harpy are waging.

A parallel to what happened in Iraq (which I would guess is no coincidence).

These peasants don't have access to bombs and AK-47s. Much harder to be effective when you have to go into melee vs "best fighters" in the known world.


Modern day insurgents don't have Abraham Tanks, Helicopters and Fighter Jets, Combat Drones and Battleships and Tomahawks.

we can make some comparison.

Most of these are useless vs urban guerilla fighters. Those fight normally come down to infantry vs infantry and bombs and firearms are great skill equalizers. And Peasants in Mereen don't have those.


True, but still logistical support, marine equipment and training etc are far better than that of an insurgent. So is command generally.



The difference in skills, arms, training, and logistics are similar enough for a reasonable comparison. Her failure to control the city is a political one not a military one (not so coincidentally the same thing that happened in Iraq).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
May 15 2015 12:59 GMT
#26986
Now that Tyrion has seen a dragon, I think he will slowly but surely start believing more in magic.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Baatun88
Profile Joined May 2015
14 Posts
May 15 2015 17:51 GMT
#26987
John Snow is damn stupid, he should go with Stennis and become the new Lord of Winterfell.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 15 2015 17:58 GMT
#26988
Whenever I look at the map of westeros I find it hard to imagine that D&D will be able to really finish the series in the coming 2 seasons. Leaving aside all the storylines amongst the westeros families, Daenerys and her dragons are stil sooo far away from westeros and the everything that's beyond the wall is still a huge mystery. I really hope HBO extends the series beyond 7 seasons and the creators want to keep going.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22253 Posts
May 15 2015 18:02 GMT
#26989
On May 16 2015 02:51 Baatun88 wrote:
John Snow is damn stupid, he should go with Stennis and become the new Lord of Winterfell.

He is acting very much in character.
If his oaths meant nothing to him he would have left the Nights watch ages ago and joined Rob when he marched south.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
May 15 2015 18:30 GMT
#26990
On May 16 2015 02:51 Baatun88 wrote:
John Snow is damn stupid, he should go with Stennis and become the new Lord of Winterfell.


STENNIS FOR KING, 2015
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
May 15 2015 18:33 GMT
#26991
On May 16 2015 03:30 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 02:51 Baatun88 wrote:
John Snow is damn stupid, he should go with Stennis and become the new Lord of Winterfell.


STENNIS FOR KING, 2015


Stennis the mennis! (Stensch the Mensch?)
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
May 15 2015 18:50 GMT
#26992
I wonder what Stannis would do to you for misspelling his name.
I like words.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
May 15 2015 19:21 GMT
#26993
On May 16 2015 03:50 Spaylz wrote:
I wonder what Stannis would do to you for misspelling his name.

A finger for every wrong letter.
Sup.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
May 15 2015 19:31 GMT
#26994
On May 16 2015 03:02 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 02:51 Baatun88 wrote:
John Snow is damn stupid, he should go with Stennis and become the new Lord of Winterfell.

He is acting very much in character.
If his oaths meant nothing to him he would have left the Nights watch ages ago and joined Rob when he marched south.


Plus he's not wrong, if he bails on the Night's Watch to become a Lord, and a bastard Lord at that, it won't exactly engender a lot of trust with the North. Stannis has a lot of faith that they would come running to him when that may not necessarily be the case.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
May 16 2015 07:27 GMT
#26995
If Jon Snow takes the offer, Stannis would have to take his head for deserting the Night's Watch. Also, even if Jon was declared a legitimate son, he still gave up all claims and titles by going to the Wall. Can Stannis just overrule all of that? And if he can, would the people accept a bastard and deserter as their lord?
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-16 10:13:31
May 16 2015 10:12 GMT
#26996
On May 16 2015 16:27 Scorch wrote:
If Jon Snow takes the offer, Stannis would have to take his head for deserting the Night's Watch. Also, even if Jon was declared a legitimate son, he still gave up all claims and titles by going to the Wall. Can Stannis just overrule all of that? And if he can, would the people accept a bastard and deserter as their lord?

*if* stannis wins the iron throne, I think he can pretty much do w/e the fk he wants.
As for the people of the north, the fact that the boltons murdered the starks in cold blood, are are currently pillaging and burning their way through much of the rest of the north, would probably outweigh jon breaking an oath when it came to picking sides.

There would probably be a few unruly lords after the fact, but in terms of picking sides bolton vs stark/stannis, it shouldn't be hard.

As it stands, which side sansa chooses would probably be a big deal in the end, although there isn't really any way for stannis/jon to know that.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
May 16 2015 13:49 GMT
#26997
On May 16 2015 16:27 Scorch wrote:
If Jon Snow takes the offer, Stannis would have to take his head for deserting the Night's Watch. Also, even if Jon was declared a legitimate son, he still gave up all claims and titles by going to the Wall. Can Stannis just overrule all of that? And if he can, would the people accept a bastard and deserter as their lord?


A king has the power to release people from their vows.

Also: John Snow did those vows, not John Stark.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
May 16 2015 14:08 GMT
#26998
wait the whole thing is ending in two seasons O_O what??? i feel like the story could have continued till like all the kids are like in their 30s+ arya, jon, sansa, bran like ever since people started talking about gendry being a bastard to Robert and that scene where arya was checking out gendry ive been rooting for them to win everything and have gendry sit on the iron throne
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Wita
Profile Joined January 2015
Denmark267 Posts
May 16 2015 14:21 GMT
#26999
I think the author actually gave them permission to push the storyline further than the books right?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22253 Posts
May 16 2015 14:26 GMT
#27000
On May 16 2015 23:21 Wita wrote:
I think the author actually gave them permission to push the storyline further than the books right?

they are already getting ahead of the books this season but the books are planned to be 7 so people assume the seasons will follow that.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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