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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14904 Posts
On June 20 2014 19:53 frontliner2 wrote: Q: How does Brienne honor her vow to protect the Stark girls by delivering them to Kings Landing to the Lannisters? I don't understand her storyline at ALL. She was supposed to bring her somewhere safe, but when asked she didn't know where "safe" was. She was doing her best flying by the seat of her pants | ||
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lilopuppy
Philippines542 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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Pwere
Canada1557 Posts
On June 20 2014 16:34 Emnjay808 wrote: Why do you think she's still in Westeros? As far as we know, she could be anywhere. Someone could have caught her, and some nobleman bought her, and is bringing her to the Mother of Dragons as a gift RIGHT NOW.Im talking about Nymeria. Then when Arya is sent to do her badass assassin routine on Daenerys, Nymeria steps in and they all become friends. Arya gets to ride a Dragon, and becomes the Queen in the North, protecting the realm from the Whitewalkers with Dragonfire. She marries Gendry and hires Hot Pie as the castle cook. The End. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
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derc
France126 Posts
Don't worry, i'll go in the other thread as soon as i will be able to. The ultra spoiler alert around it is teasing me since almost 1 year. | ||
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psychopat
Canada417 Posts
I'm kind of sad that they probably killed off Tywin/Hound. They are/were both well acted and interesting characters. I don't particularly care that Shae's gone, she was mostly annoying. Jojen I felt deserved a better fate and a bit more exposition. Would have had more impact if we knew that he knew he was doomed from the start, assuming old tree-guy isn't lying. I was surprised his sister really didn't seem to care 10 seconds after he died; didn't she tell Osha several episodes ago (or maybe even last season?) that protecting him was her reason for being? I also laughed at how you die if you go to the bathroom (Hound, Tywin). If you just use a tree, you're ok (Blackfish). I guess Cersei said it best: In the game of Thrones, you win or you die. I had a couple questions though. Hopefully I just missed it or I'm forgetting some information. If any of this conjecture is right/wrong, don't confirm its veracity or lack thereof. Thanks. I'm not fishing for out-of-show knowledge. 1) They were very deliberate in showing Jojen's eyes turn blue when he died. I didn't see/hear any white walker though, so why'd he change so fast? It gave me a Walking Dead vibe from the end of season 2. Has there been any indication that dying to a skeleton (or as I'm assuming, a decomposed wight) turns you into a wight as well? Overall, I know it's kind of moot since the Child of the Forest fireballed his corpse anyway, but I was curious. 2) What was Shae's play in all of this? Was she bought by Tywin all along and only fake in-love with Tyrion? Did Tywin just come along later and offer her more money to kill off Tyrion? Must have stung to hear her call his father the same thing she called him... lol. That said, I really enjoyed the reversal since I thought Tyrion was in Cersei's room, not his dad's. Also, wasn't Tywin adamantly against whores? He kept threatening to kill Tyrion's whores all the time because they were whores. Hypocrit. 3) What was Tywin's goal near his end? Obviously the first one was "don't get shot", but did he actually have a plan to keep Tyrion alive or was he just lying to save his own behind? I'm leaning towards the latter. Doesn't seem logical to save Tyrion when you're the one that stacked the trial against him AND condemned him to death. 4) Did Brienne lose Oathkeeper? She got disarmed midfight and I think it went down the mountain but I don't think we ever saw her go back to pick it up. Could be wrong. 5) Why didn't Aria kill/help the hound? She had him on his list, so that's reason to kill him. He'd also pretty much befriended her and was in this situation because he defended her, so that's reason to try to help him. She's turning into a sociopath and a lot less likeable by the episode. 6) Why did the Hound pick a fight with Brienne? Arya's worth nothing anymore and he made it clear that he knew that when speaking with Brienne. That said, I can understand why Brienne wanted to fight the Hound... 7) Is Valyrian steel supposed to be stronger, lighter or both? I guess lighter, making it easier to swing, which allowed Brienne to keep pace with a superior fighter (She barely beat Loras, who got owned by Mountain and the Hound had no real troubles with the Mountain) 8) What did the Braavosi captain answer to Arya's Valar Morghulis? Something like Valar Daharis? I assume it's "All men must ____ " since Valar Morghulis is "All men must die" and "morghulis" has the same roots as words like morgue/mortuary/etc. 9) Where did Arya get the white horse from? You'd think that Pod/Brienne would have taken all the horses as they left. Anyway, I'm hyped for the next season. It's soo long away. I'm expecting: - Assassin training for Arya - Balon Greyjoy to get offed since he was the third slug, wasn't he? Hopefully it's a war and Bolton gets him, although I'm expecting them to try the Reek/Theon ruse again until it stops working. - No clue what to expect up north. Either a huge battle of wildlings vs Stannis or he'll conscript them into his army and rush the throne. I expect they'll be gone or dead before the White Walkers show up though, otherwise there wouldn't be a need for several more seasons. - Frankenmountain. Glad to see Oberyn used poisoned spears though. - Trouble for Jaime since people will assume he was the one that let Tyrion out. - Training montage for Bran, since his short-term plot arc seems over. Hopefully he doesn't turn into Dany, where most of the time is wasted because he's not actually doing anything. There's a severe lack of strong characters now though. Jon Snow is growing into that role, but I'm hoping for some new Martells, Tyrells or Braavosi or *something* to fill the void. Hopefully they go back to Blackfish. I'm also hoping Tommen dies to create a power vaccuum, which would make for an interesting power struggle. If he doesn't, Margaery vs Cercei would be boring and just a rehash of when Joeffrey was there... Either that or Tommen stands up for himself instead of just being a puppet king. Also, no real reason but I'm hoping the king of the eerie get randomly owned because he's an annoying brat, although I don't really expect it since it wouldn't really change any dynamics or character interactions. I think I'm approaching this too analytically, particularly with how long of a layoff we've got ahead of us. | ||
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TMG26
Portugal2017 Posts
What we saw before was a wight walker with a baby. This is different, this is Whight walkr with a dead man. We don't actually know if the WW must be close to use their necromancy. Remember, WW != zombies. | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
1) Entirely missed his eyes turning blue. 2) Guess we don't really know, but what I took from it was that she was kind of just a whore all along. Was with Tyrion for money and then goes to Tywin when he offers presumably more money to speak against Tyrion/sleep with him. 3) Again, I think for those of us who have only watched the show it is a guess. My assumption was he was just trying to save his own skin. Although a case could be made either way, his plan all along could have been to condemn Tyrion to get Jamie to quit the Kings Guard like was planned a few episodes ago and not to actually let Tyrion die. 4) I would assume that she went to get the sword back since it seemed like it meant something to her. 5) I guess she never really forgave him for the butcher's boy thing even though they sort of became friends, and to the Hound living was a worse punishment than dying so she left him to live/die slowly. 6) He also expected her to be after him for the Lannister bounty on his head. Or maybe he actually started to like Arya and just wanted to protect her. 7) I was under the assumption it was both just from reading through this thread. 8) idk 9) Over the seasons we have occasionally seen them with a horse and other times without one. I distinctly remember one scene with Arya and the Hound on the same horse with Arya kind of sitting sideways on the horses neck. Not sure if they were supposed to have the horse the entire time and they just didn't show it in some scenes or what. | ||
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shark.
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On June 21 2014 04:00 psychopat wrote: 8) What did the Braavosi captain answer to Arya's Valar Morghulis? Something like Valar Daharis? I assume it's "All men must ____ " since Valar Morghulis is "All men must die" and "morghulis" has the same roots as words like morgue/mortuary/etc. "Valar dohaeris" I have no idea if it's been said in the show what this means, so I won't. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8233 Posts
On June 21 2014 05:35 jcarlsoniv wrote: "Valar dohaeris" I have no idea if it's been said in the show what this means, so I won't. Since its not actually mentioned in the books, I think its ok (as far as I know anyways. I haven't read them all but this is what I've been told). It might be "But first we must live". Its not confirmed anywhere if I remember correctly, but this is whats been theorycrafted. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15361 Posts
On June 21 2014 05:56 Frolossus wrote: i'd be interested in seeing stuff similar to what tolkien did regarding languages and culture and more general world building background info as a side to the main series There is lots of that stuff out there, but it's pretty much impossible to digest without being spoiled about something. So not for this thread here, sorry. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On June 21 2014 06:00 zatic wrote: There is lots of that stuff out there, but it's pretty much impossible to digest without being spoiled about something. So not for this thread here, sorry. Yeah, I'm fairly certain that GRRM has some pretty in depth stuff about the different languages. And I know there's tons of lore stuff, I'm just waiting to finish book 5 before I go searching for any of it :3 | ||
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psychopat
Canada417 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10138 Posts
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TMG26
Portugal2017 Posts
On June 21 2014 05:56 Frolossus wrote: i'd be interested in seeing stuff similar to what tolkien did regarding languages and culture and more general world building background info as a side to the main series A new story of the past just came out this month! GRRM has written a few novellas, and the World of Ice and Fire to complement A Song of Ice and Fire, but of course, if you only watch the show you will be spoiled. Also, the novels have much more content than the show, so reading the novels is a good step to learn a lot about that world. Martin has designed a great world. But his world building can't be compared to Tolkien, Tolkien is just in another level. Language, Religion and poetry isn't Martin strong points. | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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