I caught a history background compilation on youtube narrated in character by the game of thrones actors.
Probably some DVD extra.

Harrenhal is a giant castle close to the riverlands. It was built by the ironborn king, harren the black, 300 years ago. It could house "a million men"
Basically it is so big that keeping a garrison there and operating it like any other castle will make you lose money.

urboss

Austria1223 Posts

June 07 2014 11:34 GMT

#24662

Poll: Who would be the best ruler on the Iron Throne?

Stannis (15)

42%

Daenerys (6)

17%

Tommen (6)

17%

Shireen (4)

11%

Gendry (3)

8%

Myrcella (2)

6%

36 total votes

Your vote: Who would be the best ruler on the Iron Throne?

(Vote): Stannis
(Vote): Daenerys
(Vote): Tommen
(Vote): Gendry
(Vote): Shireen
(Vote): Myrcella

Dav1oN

Ukraine3164 Posts

June 07 2014 11:56 GMT

#24663

On June 07 2014 20:34 urboss wrote:

Poll: Who would be the best ruler on the Iron Throne?

Stannis (15)

42%

Daenerys (6)

17%

Tommen (6)

17%

Shireen (4)

11%

Gendry (3)

8%

Myrcella (2)

6%

36 total votes

Your vote: Who would be the best ruler on the Iron Throne?

(Vote): Stannis
(Vote): Daenerys
(Vote): Tommen
(Vote): Gendry
(Vote): Shireen
(Vote): Myrcella

Non of them, the best possible rulers are already on graveyard.

Shock710

Australia6097 Posts

June 07 2014 12:18 GMT

#24664

whos shireen and myrcella? (im guessing those are cersi's daughters?) have we even heard them speak?

ShadeR

Australia7535 Posts

June 07 2014 12:18 GMT

#24665

Best possible scenario. America gives Westeros democracy.

urboss

Austria1223 Posts

June 07 2014 12:22 GMT

#24666

Shireen is the Girl-Hound.

Chewbacca.

United States3634 Posts

June 07 2014 12:22 GMT

#24667

On June 07 2014 21:18 Shock710 wrote:
whos shireen and myrcella? (im guessing those are cersi's daughters?) have we even heard them speak?

I know we've heard Myrcella talk to Sansa at the dinner table once...back in season 1 or 2. Shireen...not sure

Acertos

France852 Posts

June 07 2014 12:27 GMT

#24668

Dany is a completely dumb spoiled brat with retarded views on what's good or bad so she would never be able to conquer Westeros totally and even less rule it.
Stannis would be the best ruler by far. The first thing he would do is clean the court and behead alot of corrupted people, something the others (except for dany) would never do. The others would have problems of legitimacy so it won't be possible for them to unite Westeros. Stannis holds his promises and he would repay Bravoos, The only problem I see with him is his successor, he doesn't have one and probably won't have one so in the long run the situation could get worse if he becomes king.

massivez

Belgium653 Posts

June 07 2014 12:30 GMT

#24669

On June 07 2014 15:10 KwarK wrote:

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Harrenhall and none at all. Marrying the widow of someone who had the right blood doesn't give you the right blood.

Littlefinger is also "Lord Paramount of the Trident (Riverlands)". House Tully are no longer the Lords of Riverrun since the Red Wedding, Walder Frey is currently the Lord of Riverrun. Both Houses are thus under the rule of Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish.

The Lannisters gave Littlefinger Harrenhal because they think it's cursed (most owners die after holding Harrenhal), and it gave Littlefinger the "Lord" title. Hence he was able to marry Lysa Tully, and receive paramountship of the Riverlands.

massivez

Belgium653 Posts

June 07 2014 12:33 GMT

#24670

On June 07 2014 21:18 Shock710 wrote:
whos shireen and myrcella? (im guessing those are cersi's daughters?) have we even heard them speak?

Shireen is the daughter of Stannis (The girl who is teaching Davos how to read). Myrcella is the daughter of Cersei but she was shipped off by Tyrion to Dorne, so House Lannister could forge an Alliance with House Martell.

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

June 07 2014 12:41 GMT

#24671

On June 07 2014 21:33 massivez wrote:

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Thought she's called "Shareen"? She's called "Sharin" in the german books which pronounces the same way.

massivez

Belgium653 Posts

June 07 2014 12:47 GMT

#24672

On June 07 2014 21:41 boxerfred wrote:

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Thought she's called "Shareen"? She's called "Sharin" in the german books which pronounces the same way.

It's Shireen.

sc2holar

Sweden1637 Posts

June 07 2014 13:02 GMT

#24673

On June 07 2014 21:27 Acertos wrote:
Dany is a completely dumb spoiled brat with retarded views on what's good or bad so she would never be able to conquer Westeros totally and even less rule it.
Stannis would be the best ruler by far. The first thing he would do is clean the court and behead alot of corrupted people, something the others (except for dany) would never do. The others would have problems of legitimacy so it won't be possible for them to unite Westeros. Stannis holds his promises and he would repay Bravoos, The only problem I see with him is his successor, he doesn't have one and probably won't have one so in the long run the situation could get worse if he becomes king.

What? Stannis is a bitter religious fanatic without friends or political allies. Tywin is the most pragmatic ruler by far.

urboss

Austria1223 Posts

June 07 2014 13:32 GMT

#24674

I think Daenerys wouldn't be that bad, as long as Ser Barristan and Ser Jorah are on her side. Oh wait, ...

Dav1oN

Ukraine3164 Posts

June 07 2014 13:42 GMT

#24675

On June 07 2014 22:02 sc2holar wrote:

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What? Stannis is a bitter religious fanatic without friends or political allies. Tywin is the most pragmatic ruler by far.

Indeed, the ruler can't be good if he kills his own younger brother to claim the iron throne. Tywin fits perfectly, but all those crimes he made before...I can't symphatize him aswell.

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

June 07 2014 13:52 GMT

#24676

On June 07 2014 22:42 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:

Indeed, the ruler can't be good if he kills his own younger brother to claim the iron throne. Tywin fits perfectly, but all those crimes he made before...I can't symphatize him aswell.

not to mention he brought the country so far into debt knowing he didn't and wouldn't have the funds to pay it back. thats not exactly good leadership.

Leporello

United States2845 Posts

June 07 2014 14:01 GMT

#24677

I think Stannis and Dany both would've been good rulers at one point, but over time they've become too ego-driven and a bit bonkers.

Jon Snow is the ideal leader, but he's out of the equation for several reasons.

Realistically, Tommen is probably the best choice of the bunch. But that's only for as long as he doesn't get corrupted by all the influences that will latch on to him.

Mataza

Germany5364 Posts

June 07 2014 14:33 GMT

#24678

Ser Pounce for King of the 7 kingdoms and Lord Protector of the Realm.

Yoav

United States1874 Posts

June 07 2014 14:36 GMT

#24679

On June 07 2014 22:52 PrinceXizor wrote:

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not to mention he brought the country so far into debt knowing he didn't and wouldn't have the funds to pay it back. thats not exactly good leadership.

Technically it was Littlefinger under Robert who brought the country into debt, which Tywin was okay with when a lot of the money was lent by him. But the mines have now emptied (unexpectedly, I assume) so he's SoL.

Is the thing about Littlefinger being named Lord Paramount of the Riverlands true? I could swear it was the creepy Twins guy who was in charge now (from the conversation between him and Bolton.)