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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
On April 16 2014 20:38 The_Red_Viper wrote: "The southern guy" is called Oberyn Nymeros Martell, he is my favorite so yeah everybody should know his name :D nvm | ||
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kamicom
United States180 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6P638Vs.png) The only thing I paid attention to. | ||
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nukem1
345 Posts
On April 16 2014 21:42 kamicom wrote: The only thing I paid attention to. boobs and death... all that GoT is about  ) | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
edit: someone above linked a scene with tyrion/tywin and thought it was about tywin hating tyrion, and man we couldn't misinterpret that scene any differently. I thought it was about as close of a heart felt talk between son and father as tyrion is ever going to get from his father. Also, regarding book readers, someone brought up a good question, why do you even post in this thread to spark discussion, make predictions etc? What on earth is the point? I understand coming in after big moments, like what happened last episode and reading reactions or commenting how happy you were seeing Joffrey die etc., but why continue having a discussion about the plot and possible outcomes? I'm not speaking to those that purposefully try and spoil for trololz, the whole purpose just seems fucking insane, there is a full discussion thread on these very boards if you want to talk about the show. I don't understand the motivation, it seems quite psychotic. | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
On April 16 2014 16:58 Discarder wrote: Given the circumstances and given the fact that King Joffrey was poisoned to death, Oberyn Martell should become a high probability suspect. Oberyn is also called the Red Viper. How does a Viper, kill its prey? With poison right? History: In s04e01, he already made it clear that he wants Tywin Lannister and Gregor Clegane to answer for the deaths of Elia of Dorne (her sister) and her children in the Sack of King's Landing. If he indeed assassinated Joffrey, then we could say that it is getting back at house lannister. Vipers kill with Venom, not Poison. Poison is consumed, Venom is injected. There is a difference, example a rattlesnake is venomous if he bites you but they are not poisonous so you can still eat them just fine. | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8205 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:44 Ghost-z wrote: Vipers kill with Venom, not Poison. Poison is consumed, Venom is injected. There is a difference, example a rattlesnake is venomous if he bites you but they are not poisonous so you can still eat them just fine. If you eat venom then it becomes poisonous ;P | ||
KwarK
United States43284 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:56 Excludos wrote: If you eat venom then it becomes poisonous ;P Actually not necessarily, although things like stomach ulcers complicate that. But a lot of things that will fuck you up in your blood stream are totally harmless in your digestive tract. | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On April 17 2014 02:00 KwarK wrote: Actually not necessarily, although things like stomach ulcers complicate that. But a lot of things that will fuck you up in your blood stream are totally harmless in your digestive tract. Ok, but in theory a venom can be poisonous. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On April 17 2014 02:15 Thalandros wrote: Looking at the final episodes, when Tyrion has to grab Joffrey's cup again, Margaery's mother (forgot her name for a second) keeps looking at the situation, kind of comforting.. For Tyrion it'd be too dangerous to do such a thing, I don't think anyone but paranoid Cersei might've suspected the Tryells. I'm sticking with either Margaery or her mother right now. Small point but Olenna is her grandmother and Mace Tyrell's mother. | ||
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CatfooD
United States203 Posts
I was even more curious about Bran's foresight. So Bran is a worg and he has foresight or whatever it is called? It seemed that he could see the future and relive the past. Is that another power that he has like being a worg, or is that some sight that the Old Gods from that old tree planted in him at that moment? Also if you rewatch those 30 seconds a few times, there are about 3 scenes that I am really curious about. One we already saw in the trailer to season 4, which is a large dragon shadow flying over King's Landing. That is pretty self explanatory, but my anticipation is growing more now. The second one is the voice we hear saying: "Look for me ... beneath the tree." It sounds like Jon Snow's voice to me and would make sense because they are relatively close to each other. Also, what tree is he talking about? Is it the Gods that are saying that to Bran in his voice, or is Jon saying that to him consciously somehow? And I found this one the most interesting. We saw a shot of it snowing inside the ruined Throne Room at King's Landing. That implies there was a battle and the throne room was destroyed and that it is finally Winter. I assume that these foresights don't necessarily mean that they would happen this season since that's a lot of development to happen in 8 episodes with everything else going on, and I didn't think Winter was coming that fast. Lastly, fuck off book readers. Quit spoiling our fun and don't post plot discussion. Why don't you instead contemplate the value of your lives when you do such childish shit. Come on, keep TL a happy, fun place. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On April 17 2014 02:44 CatfooD wrote: + Show Spoiler + Ok, well it is obvious that the death of Joffrey is supposed to be so convoluted, especially considering that GRRM himself directly the episode presumably so that he could portray all of these possibilities as plausible. I am sure that this will be explained and start unfolding soon, but until then... I was even more curious about Bran's foresight. So Bran is a worg and he has foresight or whatever it is called? It seemed that he could see the future and relive the past. Is that another power that he has like being a worg, or is that some sight that the Old Gods from that old tree planted in him at that moment? Also if you rewatch those 30 seconds a few times, there are about 3 scenes that I am really curious about. One we already saw in the trailer to season 4, which is a large dragon shadow flying over King's Landing. That is pretty self explanatory, but my anticipation is growing more now. + Show Spoiler + The second one is the voice we hear saying: "Look for me ... beneath the tree." It sounds like Jon Snow's voice to me and would make sense because they are relatively close to each other. Also, what tree is he talking about? Is it the Gods that are saying that to Bran in his voice, or is Jon saying that to him consciously somehow? And I found this one the most interesting. We saw a shot of it snowing inside the ruined Throne Room at King's Landing. That implies there was a battle and the throne room was destroyed and that it is finally Winter. I assume that these foresights don't necessarily mean that they would happen this season since that's a lot of development to happen in 8 episodes with everything else going on, and I didn't think Winter was coming that fast. Lastly, fuck off book readers. Quit spoiling our fun and don't post plot discussion. Why don't you instead contemplate the value of your lives when you do such childish shit. Come on, keep TL a happy, fun place. When I saw that scene, I felt so trolled. | ||
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nukem1
345 Posts
On April 17 2014 02:44 CatfooD wrote: Ok, well it is obvious that the death of Joffrey is supposed to be so convoluted, especially considering that GRRM himself directly the episode presumably so that he could portray all of these possibilities as plausible. I am sure that this will be explained and start unfolding soon, but until then... I was even more curious about Bran's foresight. So Bran is a worg and he has foresight or whatever it is called? It seemed that he could see the future and relive the past. Is that another power that he has like being a worg, or is that some sight that the Old Gods from that old tree planted in him at that moment? Also if you rewatch those 30 seconds a few times, there are about 3 scenes that I am really curious about. One we already saw in the trailer to season 4, which is a large dragon shadow flying over King's Landing. That is pretty self explanatory, but my anticipation is growing more now. The second one is the voice we hear saying: "Look for me ... beneath the tree." It sounds like Jon Snow's voice to me and would make sense because they are relatively close to each other. Also, what tree is he talking about? Is it the Gods that are saying that to Bran in his voice, or is Jon saying that to him consciously somehow? And I found this one the most interesting. We saw a shot of it snowing inside the ruined Throne Room at King's Landing. That implies there was a battle and the throne room was destroyed and that it is finally Winter. I assume that these foresights don't necessarily mean that they would happen this season since that's a lot of development to happen in 8 episodes with everything else going on, and I didn't think Winter was coming that fast. Lastly, fuck off book readers. Quit spoiling our fun and don't post plot discussion. Why don't you instead contemplate the value of your lives when you do such childish shit. Come on, keep TL a happy, fun place. the snowed in room with the iron throne looks like the one from the one Daenerys has in season 2 ep 10. if you actually look closely there seem to be some footsteps in the snow around 1:30 | ||
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LeeDawg
United States1306 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:15 crms wrote: I don't think Tywin makes sense for killing Jeoffrey in this manner. I don't doubt Tywin could do it and probably wanted Joffrey dead, but this isn't how Tywin would do it. This type of death is embarrassing to the Lannisters and makes a mockery of their royal wedding. If Tywin was going to kill Joffrey it would be done much more discreetly I feel. Tywin never seemed particularly enthused about the royal wedding for monetary reasons etc. I liked the theory someone posted earlier about him wanting to build a massive Lannister Empire where Lannisters rule all parts of Westeros, but I don't see how killing Joffrey gets him there. Perhaps he'd rather have the younger son, Tommen, I think his name is, take over the throne since he's probably less of a piece of shit than Joffrey was. It would also make sense for him to want to rule as hand of the king for a while longer, since he really was calling all the shots, not Joffrey. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On April 17 2014 02:44 CatfooD wrote: Ok, well it is obvious that the death of Joffrey is supposed to be so convoluted, especially considering that GRRM himself directly the episode presumably so that he could portray all of these possibilities as plausible. I am sure that this will be explained and start unfolding soon, but until then... I was even more curious about Bran's foresight. So Bran is a worg and he has foresight or whatever it is called? It seemed that he could see the future and relive the past. Is that another power that he has like being a worg, or is that some sight that the Old Gods from that old tree planted in him at that moment? Also if you rewatch those 30 seconds a few times, there are about 3 scenes that I am really curious about. One we already saw in the trailer to season 4, which is a large dragon shadow flying over King's Landing. That is pretty self explanatory, but my anticipation is growing more now. The second one is the voice we hear saying: "Look for me ... beneath the tree." It sounds like Jon Snow's voice to me and would make sense because they are relatively close to each other. Also, what tree is he talking about? Is it the Gods that are saying that to Bran in his voice, or is Jon saying that to him consciously somehow? And I found this one the most interesting. We saw a shot of it snowing inside the ruined Throne Room at King's Landing. That implies there was a battle and the throne room was destroyed and that it is finally Winter. I assume that these foresights don't necessarily mean that they would happen this season since that's a lot of development to happen in 8 episodes with everything else going on, and I didn't think Winter was coming that fast. Lastly, fuck off book readers. Quit spoiling our fun and don't post plot discussion. Why don't you instead contemplate the value of your lives when you do such childish shit. Come on, keep TL a happy, fun place. GRRM wrote the episode, he didn't direct it. | ||
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
On April 17 2014 02:19 ZasZ. wrote: Small point but Olenna is her grandmother and Mace Tyrell's mother. Yeah, sorry. Had a brainfart! | ||
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CatfooD
United States203 Posts
On April 17 2014 03:35 c0ldfusion wrote:GRRM wrote the episode, he didn't direct it. Thank you; edited. | ||
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