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alypse
2771 Posts
On April 15 2014 23:42 Mensol wrote: and about Theon, even thought he was a dick, i felt bad for him  I actually felt really really bad. He should've cut Ramsay Snow's throat while shaving Ramsay is the new character to hate for me.You mean Reek? Reek certainly deserves sympathy. Theon doesn't. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On April 16 2014 00:39 Ghost-z wrote: How do you poison a cup? He clearly fills it with wine then dumps it out on Tyrion. Wouldn't that rinse out any poison? The Spider is Lord Varys correct? the spider is Varrys yes. Even after he spills the wine, he lets it out of his hand. Or the cup itself could have been the weapon, having some sort of solution/substance which gradually would have melted into his wine. The possibilities are endless | ||
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goody153
44238 Posts
On April 16 2014 00:39 Ghost-z wrote: How do you poison a cup? He clearly fills it with wine then dumps it out on Tyrion. Wouldn't that rinse out any poison? The Spider is Lord Varys correct? Anyone can do that just send a servant to change the win or make sure that the win Joeffry was drinking is poisoned. I am so inclined to check the GOT book thread here in TL but i am having second thoughts since i think i will regret my decision for knowing things ahead of time | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
On April 16 2014 00:55 Ghost-z wrote: I still think the poison was in the pie. The dead birds seem to foreshadow this and the only person seen eating the pie is Joeffrey. Tywin is shown playing with some pie on his fork but he never actually eats it on screen. I think those birds were dead because joffrey smashed that valyrian sword +1 on their heads | ||
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Excludos
Norway8232 Posts
On April 16 2014 00:59 Isualin wrote: I think those birds were dead because joffrey smashed that valyrian sword +1 on their heads Its not like it cut itself in two, no :p the bird certainly is a foreshadowing though, but I doubt the poison was in the pie. Just no way of knowing if anyone else would start eating it before the posion started taking effect | ||
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scoww
595 Posts
On April 15 2014 23:42 Mensol wrote: and about Theon, even thought he was a dick, i felt bad for him I actually felt really really bad. He should've cut Ramsay Snow's throat while shaving Ramsay is the new character to hate for me.I caught me actually liking Ramsay more than Theon. At least he has ambition. Theon is just despicable ... | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
On April 15 2014 23:42 Mensol wrote: and about Theon, even thought he was a dick, i felt bad for him I actually felt really really bad. He should've cut Ramsay Snow's throat while shaving Ramsay is the new character to hate for me.Ramsey may be a bit crazy, but he only did what is in the tradition of the family. And since he's a bastard, he may be eager to impress his father. Ramsay: "We've been flaying our enemies for a thousand years; the flayed man is on our banners!" Bolton: "My banners, not yours. You're not a Bolton, you're a Snow." Also, a man who orders to murder children so as not to appear weak is 10x more despicable than the guy who tortures that very man. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On April 16 2014 00:59 Isualin wrote: I think those birds were dead because joffrey smashed that valyrian sword +1 on their heads So his last heroic deed was to oneshot pigeons, impressive. | ||
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
On April 16 2014 01:03 Excludos wrote: Its not like it cut itself in two, no :p the bird certainly is a foreshadowing though, but I doubt the poison was in the pie. Just no way of knowing if anyone else would start eating it before the posion started taking effect If you watch the scene, you can clearly see at least one of the pigeons is beheaded. The head even falls down to the ground while margaery says "my hero" to joffrey. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 16 2014 01:06 urboss wrote: Ramsey may be a bit crazy, but he only did what is in the tradition of the family. And since he's a bastard, he may be eager to impress his father. Ramsay: "We've been flaying our enemies for a thousand years; the flayed man is on our banners!" Bolton: "My banners, not yours. You're not a Bolton, you're a Snow." Haha "a bit crazy" | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd sooner hang out with Bran than most of the characters in GoT. But non-Bran characters dying just means I probably have to sit through more three eyed raven Hodor nonsense. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On April 16 2014 01:38 Xenocide_Knight wrote: Is it just me who has Bran as their most hated. I don't know what it is about him, but I can't stand his story line and every scene he's in. Like, Joffrey, Ramsey, Theon etc are all bad people but at least they're interesting bad people. Melisandre is probably my second most hated. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd sooner hang out with Bran than most of the characters in GoT. But non-Bran characters dying just means I probably have to sit through more three eyed raven Hodor nonsense. I actually like Bran, but I completely agree that his storyline was relatively boring since he fled Winterfell. Given how many different stories in different places are currently going on, he might just be on screen about every 2nd episode, and so this season could just end (for him) with a "we finally arrived at where we want to be, now what?"-cliffhanger, with even less interaction with the rest of people than he had last season. If that's the case, I wouldnt mind if they just straight up skipped most of his scenes until that moment. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On April 16 2014 01:07 rezoacken wrote: So his last heroic deed was to oneshot pigeons, impressive. Killing one unread book and a few pidgeons trapped in a pie. Best use of priceless valyrian steel, ever. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On April 16 2014 01:03 Excludos wrote: Its not like it cut itself in two, no :p the bird certainly is a foreshadowing though, but I doubt the poison was in the pie. Just no way of knowing if anyone else would start eating it before the posion started taking effect Foreshadowing what? Someone is going to die? I don't think you need to foreshadow that sort of thing at this point in the series  | ||
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goody153
44238 Posts
On April 16 2014 02:00 EleanorRIgby wrote: the pigeon theory... it may have been some sort of foreshadowing but i doubt it had anything to do with the poisoning.. Look at how joffrey died, that was a quick acting very strong poison. Joeffry looked like he had a severe case of allergy when he died. This is offtopic ofc. | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
http://www.sarahwoodbury.com/medieval-poisons/ As far as I know, none of them can bring death within one minute. Faster acting poisons like hydrogen cyanide have only been invented later in the 18th century. Edit: Aconitum might be a candidate, not sure how fast it actually is. | ||
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
On April 16 2014 02:14 urboss wrote: Here is a list of medieval poisons: http://www.sarahwoodbury.com/medieval-poisons/ As far as I know, none of them can bring death within one minute. Faster acting poisons like hydrogen cyanide have only been invented later in the 18th century. Edit: Aconitum might be a candidate. It doesn't have to be a real poison though. There are a lot of supernatural things going on in westeros. Edit: By real i mean "exists in our world" | ||
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