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Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 17 2013 20:59 GMT
#6501
Came here to shittalk, but it's a relief reading all these comments, I don't have to empty all my bullets into Dexter.
- The Quinn-Debra romance is the most retarded thing I've seen in a while. Just wow; I guess it's one of those rare cases where "still a better love story than Twilight" is actually not true.
- Debra laughing after helping out Dex. WHAHWAHWAHWAHWHAAAT? Yeah, it's not like you had a nervous-breakdown at the beginning of the season, lol. Way to go, girl.
- Apparently deputy marshall didn't know about Saxon. I think it's fine with recent Dexter standards, nothing to see here.
- Dexter inner monologues are more like stand-up comedy. Without applause, of course, but someone will edit them in for the youtube videos.
- Dexter: iwanttokillhim iwanttokillhim iwanttokillhim iwanttokillhim iwanttokillhim iwanttokillhim *gets a hold on Saxon* LOL, JK
- Dexter is talking about old Dexter with himself. That's where this show ended up, ladies and gentlemen. I'd like showtime to top it with sending someone to my house when I watch Dexter, and he/she could explain to me what is happening with the characters, because I'm, the viewer, is clearly too imbecile to comprehend these things. I want him/her to whisper into my ears "he changeeeeeeeed. he's not the old dexteeeeeeer. we could even say.... he's neeeeeeeeew." . Please.

Well, you heard them: a storm is coming. Indeed, a giant shitstorm, because in less than a week, Dexter can be buried for good, and then we can start the nostalgie-talks about those times when this show made sense, and was enjoyable.
Or we get a 10/10 ending. What? I'm not laughing at all.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
September 17 2013 22:49 GMT
#6502
The only way to get a good ending would be if it was written by a complete different set of persons who happen to also hate the work of the other ones.

Not gonna happen.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 17 2013 22:58 GMT
#6503
On September 18 2013 07:49 rezoacken wrote:
The only way to get a good ending would be if it was written by a complete different set of persons who happen to also hate the work of the other ones.

Not gonna happen.

You can assemble the greatest writer minds in the whole world, there's no way they can give Dexter's dignity back.

All right, there's one, but involves A LOT of deaths. And even then, it would still lack the build up... daaaaaamn, I'm so mad how fucking great this season could've been, instead I'm 95% sure I'm gonna watch Quinn proposing Deb (again) in the last episode. Like what the hell...

#Dexter2013
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
September 17 2013 23:01 GMT
#6504
On September 18 2013 05:59 Volband wrote:
- Apparently deputy marshall didn't know about Saxon. I think it's fine with recent Dexter standards, nothing to see here..


This bothered me a lot anyway. The marshall got there by tailing Deb, right? Deb is a cop. If you tail a cop and find some random guy restrained at that location, maybe you should think before letting them go, or call for backup to assess the situation.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 17 2013 23:03 GMT
#6505
On September 18 2013 07:58 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 07:49 rezoacken wrote:
The only way to get a good ending would be if it was written by a complete different set of persons who happen to also hate the work of the other ones.

Not gonna happen.

You can assemble the greatest writer minds in the whole world, there's no way they can give Dexter's dignity back.

All right, there's one, but involves A LOT of deaths.


We require MechaDoakes! It is the only way!
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Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 23:13:25
September 17 2013 23:11 GMT
#6506
On September 18 2013 08:03 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 07:58 Volband wrote:
On September 18 2013 07:49 rezoacken wrote:
The only way to get a good ending would be if it was written by a complete different set of persons who happen to also hate the work of the other ones.

Not gonna happen.

You can assemble the greatest writer minds in the whole world, there's no way they can give Dexter's dignity back.

All right, there's one, but involves A LOT of deaths.


We require MechaDoakes! It is the only way!

Only if it has treadmill legs with Harrison running on it. I'm sure we can go even deeper.

On September 18 2013 08:01 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 05:59 Volband wrote:
- Apparently deputy marshall didn't know about Saxon. I think it's fine with recent Dexter standards, nothing to see here..


This bothered me a lot anyway. The marshall got there by tailing Deb, right? Deb is a cop. If you tail a cop and find some random guy restrained at that location, maybe you should think before letting them go, or call for backup to assess the situation.

Not to mention nothing backed him up, except his words. 20 sharp knives could have been a "no-no" sign as well.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
September 18 2013 00:45 GMT
#6507
I also want to pile on to the fact that the deputy marshall guy was somehow unaware of Saxon. Plot advancement device bullshit. And excuses like 'he was busy' don't really cut it for this.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
dwoobydoo
Profile Joined September 2013
49 Posts
September 18 2013 09:06 GMT
#6508
Everything explained: http://instagram.com/p/eNX_nUK0nJ/
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
September 18 2013 09:29 GMT
#6509
On September 18 2013 09:45 Djzapz wrote:
I also want to pile on to the fact that the deputy marshall guy was somehow unaware of Saxon. Plot advancement device bullshit. And excuses like 'he was busy' don't really cut it for this.


Idk it does for me, if he's busy tailing Deb and focused purely on her, I honestly think it's entirely reasonable he wouldn't have heard about Saxon.

Any phone device he has would just use for deb related things, rather than checking the local news / dicking around at the risk of missing deb doing something.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
September 18 2013 09:55 GMT
#6510
On September 18 2013 18:06 dwoobydoo wrote:
Everything explained: http://instagram.com/p/eNX_nUK0nJ/


I dont get it? I see lots of females, has it something to do with females being crappy writers of some sort? Catering to wedding and that shitty quinn romance? What kind of writers did we have in the better seasons? Same?
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 18 2013 10:34 GMT
#6511
Fuckin' Dexter!
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 10:37:46
September 18 2013 10:35 GMT
#6512
On September 18 2013 18:55 crappen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 18:06 dwoobydoo wrote:
Everything explained: http://instagram.com/p/eNX_nUK0nJ/


I dont get it? I see lots of females, has it something to do with females being crappy writers of some sort? Catering to wedding and that shitty quinn romance? What kind of writers did we have in the better seasons? Same?


That's what he implies - all the lovey dovey bullshit and unnecessary side plots are the product of the female mind, apparently. And btw, the only writers that worked on the first season *and* the last one are Tim Schlattmann and Lauren Gussis. You do have to keep in mind that the first season's script was an adaptation of the book and the second season might have been just pure luck on their part (you know, a one time wonder).
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
September 18 2013 10:41 GMT
#6513
On September 18 2013 05:30 Serelitz wrote:
Seems like I'm the odd one out but I actually liked S7 and thought S3/5 were bearable filler seasons, although S6 and even moreso S8 are absolute shit :/

Visited the dexter subreddit after this thread a few days ago btw, they had a thread stickied for Breaking Bad's new episode which was hilarious to me.


I'm exactly the same:

1 - Awesome
2 - Awesome
3 - alright, a bit of a filler
4 - Awesome
5 - alright, a bit of a filler, sick finale
6 - absolutely shit
7 - pretty decent
8 - absolutely shit
Restrider
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany129 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 10:44:17
September 18 2013 10:42 GMT
#6514
On September 18 2013 18:29 Phenny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 09:45 Djzapz wrote:
I also want to pile on to the fact that the deputy marshall guy was somehow unaware of Saxon. Plot advancement device bullshit. And excuses like 'he was busy' don't really cut it for this.


Idk it does for me, if he's busy tailing Deb and focused purely on her, I honestly think it's entirely reasonable he wouldn't have heard about Saxon.

Any phone device he has would just use for deb related things, rather than checking the local news / dicking around at the risk of missing deb doing something.

If he was that focused on tailing Debra and checking what she is up to, he would have known that Debra - recently returning to her old job as a cop - is trying to arrest the serial killer that has had the most media exposure since the days of the Bay Harbour Butcher.
Edit: @ the guy above my post: That would be my grading for the seasons as well. I don't get all the hate for the fifth season and people at the same time saying season six was good...
Windwaker
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany1597 Posts
September 18 2013 10:45 GMT
#6515
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1mkv67/i_am_clyde_phillips_showrunner_of_dexter_and/

heres an ama with the showrunner of season 1-4
if anyone is interested
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 12:04:41
September 18 2013 12:04 GMT
#6516
On September 18 2013 05:30 Serelitz wrote:
Seems like I'm the odd one out but I actually liked S7 and thought S3/5 were bearable filler seasons, although S6 and even moreso S8 are absolute shit :/

Visited the dexter subreddit after this thread a few days ago btw, they had a thread stickied for Breaking Bad's new episode which was hilarious to me.

If you are odd what about me?
Apparently I'm the only one who thinks that season 2 wasn't good since Lyla's character is awful and we tend to ignore Doakes completely bullshit behaviour (and even more ridiculous and convenient ending) just because the actor did an extremely good job.
Season 2 was what made me realise that Dexter was so conveniently protected by the plot armor, making me lose any real feel of danger whenever watching Dexter struggle.

Season 1 and 4 are terrific, season 6 isn't actually too bad, season 5 has the best ending monologue of all, 2 and 3 are good but not terrific and with 7-8 we already know the show has jumped the shark.
...put it like that I doesn't look like I really enjoied the show >_>
I gues it's a testament to how good season 1 and 4 were, since I've been still keeping around.
Let's see how it ends, after all these years of watching.
Edit: oh, and let's read how would have Phillips ended it!
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
September 18 2013 12:16 GMT
#6517
I hated Lyla, you're not alone there.
I'm not sure I hated her or the ~dark passenger~ bullshit more though, they tainted the season pretty badly for me but it was still good I guess. At least compared to this season (which I still don't hate half as much as anyone ITT lol).
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 13:29:18
September 18 2013 13:22 GMT
#6518
On September 18 2013 19:35 True_Spike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 18:55 crappen wrote:
On September 18 2013 18:06 dwoobydoo wrote:
Everything explained: http://instagram.com/p/eNX_nUK0nJ/


I dont get it? I see lots of females, has it something to do with females being crappy writers of some sort? Catering to wedding and that shitty quinn romance? What kind of writers did we have in the better seasons? Same?


That's what he implies - all the lovey dovey bullshit and unnecessary side plots are the product of the female mind, apparently. And btw, the only writers that worked on the first season *and* the last one are Tim Schlattmann and Lauren Gussis. You do have to keep in mind that the first season's script was an adaptation of the book and the second season might have been just pure luck on their part (you know, a one time wonder).


I've read the first book, and the story the show decided to take for the first two seasons is very different than the "original" one. This is actually a rare case where the show is better than the book, because quite frankly, from what I've read, the books blow. And the other books aren't any better, the writer goes quite crazy with the plot.

So no, the first season was all the writers. All they did was take the idea of the story, everything that made Dexter what he is (the blood bath, Brian, etc..) the rest has almost nothing to do with it and they take a very different direction from the books very early on. Most of season one somewhat sticks to the writer's story, but the ending is very different (Laguerta dies in the first book, and there are many other differences) and from that point on they completely leave the story of the books behind.
I like words.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 18 2013 13:44 GMT
#6519
On September 18 2013 21:04 MavivaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 05:30 Serelitz wrote:
Seems like I'm the odd one out but I actually liked S7 and thought S3/5 were bearable filler seasons, although S6 and even moreso S8 are absolute shit :/

Visited the dexter subreddit after this thread a few days ago btw, they had a thread stickied for Breaking Bad's new episode which was hilarious to me.

If you are odd what about me?
Apparently I'm the only one who thinks that season 2 wasn't good since Lyla's character is awful and we tend to ignore Doakes completely bullshit behaviour (and even more ridiculous and convenient ending) just because the actor did an extremely good job.
Season 2 was what made me realise that Dexter was so conveniently protected by the plot armor, making me lose any real feel of danger whenever watching Dexter struggle.

Season 1 and 4 are terrific, season 6 isn't actually too bad, season 5 has the best ending monologue of all, 2 and 3 are good but not terrific and with 7-8 we already know the show has jumped the shark.
...put it like that I doesn't look like I really enjoied the show >_>
I gues it's a testament to how good season 1 and 4 were, since I've been still keeping around.
Let's see how it ends, after all these years of watching.
Edit: oh, and let's read how would have Phillips ended it!


Really? I thought s2 was the peak of the show just narrowly over s4. Yeah, Lyla was annoying and Doakes' obsession with Dexter and his demise were a bit contrived (though he was still a good character), but the sheer amount of things that happen in that season and the way that they turn the heat up for Dexter nearly with each episode earned it the top spot for me. If they could do this series again, with a few adjustments, s2 really should have been the final season.

s1 -> s3 -> s4 -> s7 (with a lot of adjustments) -> s2

Is how it should've gone imo.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
September 18 2013 13:46 GMT
#6520
On September 18 2013 22:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2013 21:04 MavivaM wrote:
On September 18 2013 05:30 Serelitz wrote:
Seems like I'm the odd one out but I actually liked S7 and thought S3/5 were bearable filler seasons, although S6 and even moreso S8 are absolute shit :/

Visited the dexter subreddit after this thread a few days ago btw, they had a thread stickied for Breaking Bad's new episode which was hilarious to me.

If you are odd what about me?
Apparently I'm the only one who thinks that season 2 wasn't good since Lyla's character is awful and we tend to ignore Doakes completely bullshit behaviour (and even more ridiculous and convenient ending) just because the actor did an extremely good job.
Season 2 was what made me realise that Dexter was so conveniently protected by the plot armor, making me lose any real feel of danger whenever watching Dexter struggle.

Season 1 and 4 are terrific, season 6 isn't actually too bad, season 5 has the best ending monologue of all, 2 and 3 are good but not terrific and with 7-8 we already know the show has jumped the shark.
...put it like that I doesn't look like I really enjoied the show >_>
I gues it's a testament to how good season 1 and 4 were, since I've been still keeping around.
Let's see how it ends, after all these years of watching.
Edit: oh, and let's read how would have Phillips ended it!


Really? I thought s2 was the peak of the show just narrowly over s4. Yeah, Lyla was annoying and Doakes' obsession with Dexter and his demise were a bit contrived (though he was still a good character), but the sheer amount of things that happen in that season and the way that they turn the heat up for Dexter nearly with each episode earned it the top spot for me. If they could do this series again, with a few adjustments, s2 really should have been the final season.

s1 -> s3 -> s4 -> s7 (with a lot of adjustments) -> s2

Is how it should've gone imo.

you don't need season 3
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