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yevoc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States93 Posts
September 12 2014 04:18 GMT
#18821
Come on guys, seriously. This is a huge setup for the ye olde spirit bomb. If everyone under IT ends up having any say in this, we know who will insta-win the moment that happens.

Fundamentally, Naruto is now backed by *everyone* in the entire series. It's a perfect setup for every character ever made to have a panel with their arms raised to Naruto. Last time I checked, that's a fuckton of chakra.

I don't see how Sasuke can possibly win this since he sucks at genjutsu and has no staying power. His only strength is speed, which Naruto can counter perfectly. Itachi would stand a better chance.

The only way I see this being even remotely interesting in terms of balance is if Sasuke has a huge limbo in store. Granted, his teleportation is decent, but he'd already have killed Naruto in the last panel of this chapter if that were truly going to be the deciding factor.
"If they have some strange build going on, just go %$#ing kill them" - Day9
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 04:57:28
September 12 2014 04:57 GMT
#18822
On September 12 2014 13:18 yevoc wrote:
Come on guys, seriously. This is a huge setup for the ye olde spirit bomb. If everyone under IT ends up having any say in this, we know who will insta-win the moment that happens.

Fundamentally, Naruto is now backed by *everyone* in the entire series. It's a perfect setup for every character ever made to have a panel with their arms raised to Naruto. Last time I checked, that's a fuckton of chakra.

I don't see how Sasuke can possibly win this since he sucks at genjutsu and has no staying power. His only strength is speed, which Naruto can counter perfectly. Itachi would stand a better chance.

The only way I see this being even remotely interesting in terms of balance is if Sasuke has a huge limbo in store. Granted, his teleportation is decent, but he'd already have killed Naruto in the last panel of this chapter if that were truly going to be the deciding factor.

raise there arms while in a cocoon?

also forget he has Susano'o and all the Rinnegan tech, plus that teleport thing
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
September 12 2014 05:24 GMT
#18823
such bad timing. only a 2 min lull in the action and then bam another super important fight. should have put more time between it feels like there wasn't enough hype building to it after everything that just happened.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 07:30:23
September 12 2014 07:29 GMT
#18824
On September 11 2014 12:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 08:53 NewSunshine wrote:
Fuck yeah, Naruto has now gone full Devil May Cry 3 on us. Can't wait for the big fight. FUCKING 2 WEEKS.


except Devil may cry 3 was actually good.

Here, have one of my favorite DMC3 combo videos as a random bonus. Sure, it has nothing to do with Naruto... other than probably being more epic (at least if for those that've played DMC3 and know what the moves 'normally' look like) than whatever fight we're about to get, but who cares.

Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 13:11:27
September 12 2014 13:11 GMT
#18825
On September 12 2014 13:18 yevoc wrote:
he sucks at genjutsu

He just put all 9 bijuus under genjutsu at the same time by merely looking at them.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 22:04:47
September 13 2014 22:04 GMT
#18826
On September 12 2014 16:29 Vortok wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 11 2014 12:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 08:53 NewSunshine wrote:
Fuck yeah, Naruto has now gone full Devil May Cry 3 on us. Can't wait for the big fight. FUCKING 2 WEEKS.


except Devil may cry 3 was actually good.

Here, have one of my favorite DMC3 combo videos as a random bonus. Sure, it has nothing to do with Naruto... other than probably being more epic (at least if for those that've played DMC3 and know what the moves 'normally' look like) than whatever fight we're about to get, but who cares.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T_RdUPNg6k

Reminds me of the combo video that was baked into the game, all these insane weapon-switching combos, it was cool trying to weave those into your own play. But aghh, this is the Naruto thread, must stay focused. The overall plot of the game was what I was thinking of really - anyone who's played through it surely gets the comparison I'm drawing.

On September 12 2014 22:11 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 13:18 yevoc wrote:
he sucks at genjutsu

He just put all 9 bijuus under genjutsu at the same time by merely looking at them.

I suppose it more accurate to say he used to suck at genjutsu, his fight with Danzo touched on this. But obviously it's different now he has the Rinnegan, all bets are off for anything right now.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 14 2014 00:15 GMT
#18827
On September 14 2014 07:04 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 16:29 Vortok wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 11 2014 12:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 08:53 NewSunshine wrote:
Fuck yeah, Naruto has now gone full Devil May Cry 3 on us. Can't wait for the big fight. FUCKING 2 WEEKS.


except Devil may cry 3 was actually good.

Here, have one of my favorite DMC3 combo videos as a random bonus. Sure, it has nothing to do with Naruto... other than probably being more epic (at least if for those that've played DMC3 and know what the moves 'normally' look like) than whatever fight we're about to get, but who cares.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T_RdUPNg6k

Reminds me of the combo video that was baked into the game, all these insane weapon-switching combos, it was cool trying to weave those into your own play. But aghh, this is the Naruto thread, must stay focused. The overall plot of the game was what I was thinking of really - anyone who's played through it surely gets the comparison I'm drawing.

Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 22:11 Zane wrote:
On September 12 2014 13:18 yevoc wrote:
he sucks at genjutsu

He just put all 9 bijuus under genjutsu at the same time by merely looking at them.

I suppose it more accurate to say he used to suck at genjutsu, his fight with Danzo touched on this. But obviously it's different now he has the Rinnegan, all bets are off for anything right now.


Sasuke was never bad at genjutsu. IIRC the point made by Danzo was that Sasuke wasn't at Itachi's level of genjutsu, who was in a class of his own. He wasn't bad, just not as good as Itachi whos entire shtick was genjutsu
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
September 14 2014 01:40 GMT
#18828
On September 14 2014 09:15 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Sasuke was never bad at genjutsu. IIRC the point made by Danzo was that Sasuke wasn't at Itachi's level of genjutsu, who was in a class of his own. He wasn't bad, just not as good as Itachi whos entire shtick was genjutsu

It doesn't say too explicitly either way, but it mentions later in that fight how even a short, weak genjutsu can make all the difference, implying Sasuke's not particularly good at it. We never did see him use the Tsukuyomi at any point, either.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 14 2014 01:49 GMT
#18829
On September 14 2014 10:40 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 09:15 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Sasuke was never bad at genjutsu. IIRC the point made by Danzo was that Sasuke wasn't at Itachi's level of genjutsu, who was in a class of his own. He wasn't bad, just not as good as Itachi whos entire shtick was genjutsu

It doesn't say too explicitly either way, but it mentions later in that fight how even a short, weak genjutsu can make all the difference, implying Sasuke's not particularly good at it. We never did see him use the Tsukuyomi at any point, either.


I could have sworn he used it vs Bee when he captured him. Its been a long time though so who knows
yevoc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States93 Posts
September 16 2014 06:50 GMT
#18830
On September 14 2014 10:49 chipmonklord17 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 14 2014 10:40 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 09:15 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Sasuke was never bad at genjutsu. IIRC the point made by Danzo was that Sasuke wasn't at Itachi's level of genjutsu, who was in a class of his own. He wasn't bad, just not as good as Itachi whos entire shtick was genjutsu

It doesn't say too explicitly either way, but it mentions later in that fight how even a short, weak genjutsu can make all the difference, implying Sasuke's not particularly good at it. We never did see him use the Tsukuyomi at any point, either.


I could have sworn he used it vs Bee when he captured him. Its been a long time though so who knows


That fight is precisely why I claim Sasuke is bad at it. It's the only time we've ever seen him use Tsukuyomi, and he uses it very improperly to the point of basically being killed a few seconds after attempting it. If that isn't bad, I don't know what is.

At the end of the day, he's a punk with powers he has no patience/experience in using. I **really** dislike his personality and hope he just gets it over with and slits his wrists because he finally realized he's forgotten to take his meds for a long, long time.
"If they have some strange build going on, just go %$#ing kill them" - Day9
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
September 16 2014 07:25 GMT
#18831
To be fair, he used Tsukuyomi against someone that had two different chakras running in them, meaning the oxtopus could just disrupt it. I'm sure it worked, it was just bad decision making, rather than bad execution.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 16 2014 07:43 GMT
#18832
Eh, I'm not a fan of Sasuke but to be fair the first time he used Tsukuyomi was against the only remaining person in the Narutoverse that could have broken out of it on his own and immediately at that point.

Itachi-sama's genjutsu would have been just as useless against Bee.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
September 16 2014 11:17 GMT
#18833
On September 16 2014 16:43 AsnSensation wrote:
Eh, I'm not a fan of Sasuke but to be fair the first time he used Tsukuyomi was against the only remaining person in the Narutoverse that could have broken out of it on his own and immediately at that point.

Itachi-sama's genjutsu would have been just as useless against Bee.

It was. Bee fought Itachi and broke out.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3274 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 12:08:12
September 16 2014 12:07 GMT
#18834
If i remember right Sasuke doesnt have tsukuyomi at all. It was an early translation error and most versions nowadays corrected it.

Tsukuyomi is Itachi's ms ability, Sasuke's is enton aka Amaterasu manipulation. Both have Amaterasu in their other eye.

Sasuke is decent at genjutsu, just not as good as Itachi, who is the number one genjutsu user in the manga. He one-shotted another genjutsu user at the Kage summit for example. Since Kishi doesnt want the fights to get boring Sasuke uses genjutsu exclusively on side chars or people who can break out easily though, similar to amaterasu.

That being said I have no idea why we are talking about genjutsu being important against a person who can ask all nine beasts to break it.

low gravity, yes-yes!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 16 2014 13:38 GMT
#18835
On September 16 2014 21:07 Blackfeather wrote:
If i remember right Sasuke doesnt have tsukuyomi at all. It was an early translation error and most versions nowadays corrected it.

Tsukuyomi is Itachi's ms ability, Sasuke's is enton aka Amaterasu manipulation. Both have Amaterasu in their other eye.

Sasuke is decent at genjutsu, just not as good as Itachi, who is the number one genjutsu user in the manga. He one-shotted another genjutsu user at the Kage summit for example. Since Kishi doesnt want the fights to get boring Sasuke uses genjutsu exclusively on side chars or people who can break out easily though, similar to amaterasu.

That being said I have no idea why we are talking about genjutsu being important against a person who can ask all nine beasts to break it.


ah genjutsu, I remember when you felt so relevant back in the old days lol. Ya, Sasuke isn't as good as Itachi but nowhere as bad as some people on here make it sound, aka I agree with this post lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
September 16 2014 13:47 GMT
#18836
On September 12 2014 12:13 SK.Testie wrote:
Actually fuck it, this has been over a decade in the making. I hope this fight lasts 40 chapters and is extremely epic so I can watch it in the anime. I hope it has them shouting at eachother inbetween major attacks. I hope it has tears and anger. I hope it becomes epic beyond measure with as little TnJ as possible. The TnJ can wait til one of them is bleeding for their life.
+ Show Spoiler +
#hype

4 chapters of fighting followed by 36 chapters of TNJ. The nightmare is real.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 16 2014 14:11 GMT
#18837
you forgot the flashbacks
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12898 Posts
September 16 2014 14:17 GMT
#18838
flashbacks into flashbacks can make naruto lasts for another 5 years if he really wants to imo
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
September 16 2014 14:48 GMT
#18839
On September 16 2014 23:17 ETisME wrote:
flashbacks into flashbacks can make naruto lasts for another 5 years if he really wants to imo


If he flashes back to when the manga was good this could be a good development imo.

+ Show Spoiler +
j/k, I'd just like it to end like most others :D
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
September 16 2014 15:17 GMT
#18840
Dang it I saw activity in the thread and thought chapter was out.
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