Come on guys, seriously. This is a huge setup for the ye olde spirit bomb. If everyone under IT ends up having any say in this, we know who will insta-win the moment that happens.
Fundamentally, Naruto is now backed by *everyone* in the entire series. It's a perfect setup for every character ever made to have a panel with their arms raised to Naruto. Last time I checked, that's a fuckton of chakra.
I don't see how Sasuke can possibly win this since he sucks at genjutsu and has no staying power. His only strength is speed, which Naruto can counter perfectly. Itachi would stand a better chance.
The only way I see this being even remotely interesting in terms of balance is if Sasuke has a huge limbo in store. Granted, his teleportation is decent, but he'd already have killed Naruto in the last panel of this chapter if that were truly going to be the deciding factor.
On September 12 2014 13:18 yevoc wrote: Come on guys, seriously. This is a huge setup for the ye olde spirit bomb. If everyone under IT ends up having any say in this, we know who will insta-win the moment that happens.
Fundamentally, Naruto is now backed by *everyone* in the entire series. It's a perfect setup for every character ever made to have a panel with their arms raised to Naruto. Last time I checked, that's a fuckton of chakra.
I don't see how Sasuke can possibly win this since he sucks at genjutsu and has no staying power. His only strength is speed, which Naruto can counter perfectly. Itachi would stand a better chance.
The only way I see this being even remotely interesting in terms of balance is if Sasuke has a huge limbo in store. Granted, his teleportation is decent, but he'd already have killed Naruto in the last panel of this chapter if that were truly going to be the deciding factor.
raise there arms while in a cocoon?
also forget he has Susano'o and all the Rinnegan tech, plus that teleport thing
such bad timing. only a 2 min lull in the action and then bam another super important fight. should have put more time between it feels like there wasn't enough hype building to it after everything that just happened.
On September 11 2014 08:53 NewSunshine wrote: Fuck yeah, Naruto has now gone full Devil May Cry 3 on us. Can't wait for the big fight. FUCKING 2 WEEKS.
except Devil may cry 3 was actually good.
Here, have one of my favorite DMC3 combo videos as a random bonus. Sure, it has nothing to do with Naruto... other than probably being more epic (at least if for those that've played DMC3 and know what the moves 'normally' look like) than whatever fight we're about to get, but who cares.
On September 11 2014 08:53 NewSunshine wrote: Fuck yeah, Naruto has now gone full Devil May Cry 3 on us. Can't wait for the big fight. FUCKING 2 WEEKS.
except Devil may cry 3 was actually good.
Here, have one of my favorite DMC3 combo videos as a random bonus. Sure, it has nothing to do with Naruto... other than probably being more epic (at least if for those that've played DMC3 and know what the moves 'normally' look like) than whatever fight we're about to get, but who cares.
Reminds me of the combo video that was baked into the game, all these insane weapon-switching combos, it was cool trying to weave those into your own play. But aghh, this is the Naruto thread, must stay focused. The overall plot of the game was what I was thinking of really - anyone who's played through it surely gets the comparison I'm drawing.
On September 12 2014 13:18 yevoc wrote: he sucks at genjutsu
He just put all 9 bijuus under genjutsu at the same time by merely looking at them.
I suppose it more accurate to say he used to suck at genjutsu, his fight with Danzo touched on this. But obviously it's different now he has the Rinnegan, all bets are off for anything right now.
On September 11 2014 08:53 NewSunshine wrote: Fuck yeah, Naruto has now gone full Devil May Cry 3 on us. Can't wait for the big fight. FUCKING 2 WEEKS.
except Devil may cry 3 was actually good.
Here, have one of my favorite DMC3 combo videos as a random bonus. Sure, it has nothing to do with Naruto... other than probably being more epic (at least if for those that've played DMC3 and know what the moves 'normally' look like) than whatever fight we're about to get, but who cares.
Reminds me of the combo video that was baked into the game, all these insane weapon-switching combos, it was cool trying to weave those into your own play. But aghh, this is the Naruto thread, must stay focused. The overall plot of the game was what I was thinking of really - anyone who's played through it surely gets the comparison I'm drawing.
On September 12 2014 13:18 yevoc wrote: he sucks at genjutsu
He just put all 9 bijuus under genjutsu at the same time by merely looking at them.
I suppose it more accurate to say he used to suck at genjutsu, his fight with Danzo touched on this. But obviously it's different now he has the Rinnegan, all bets are off for anything right now.
Sasuke was never bad at genjutsu. IIRC the point made by Danzo was that Sasuke wasn't at Itachi's level of genjutsu, who was in a class of his own. He wasn't bad, just not as good as Itachi whos entire shtick was genjutsu
On September 14 2014 09:15 chipmonklord17 wrote: Sasuke was never bad at genjutsu. IIRC the point made by Danzo was that Sasuke wasn't at Itachi's level of genjutsu, who was in a class of his own. He wasn't bad, just not as good as Itachi whos entire shtick was genjutsu
It doesn't say too explicitly either way, but it mentions later in that fight how even a short, weak genjutsu can make all the difference, implying Sasuke's not particularly good at it. We never did see him use the Tsukuyomi at any point, either.
On September 14 2014 09:15 chipmonklord17 wrote: Sasuke was never bad at genjutsu. IIRC the point made by Danzo was that Sasuke wasn't at Itachi's level of genjutsu, who was in a class of his own. He wasn't bad, just not as good as Itachi whos entire shtick was genjutsu
It doesn't say too explicitly either way, but it mentions later in that fight how even a short, weak genjutsu can make all the difference, implying Sasuke's not particularly good at it. We never did see him use the Tsukuyomi at any point, either.
I could have sworn he used it vs Bee when he captured him. Its been a long time though so who knows
On September 14 2014 09:15 chipmonklord17 wrote: Sasuke was never bad at genjutsu. IIRC the point made by Danzo was that Sasuke wasn't at Itachi's level of genjutsu, who was in a class of his own. He wasn't bad, just not as good as Itachi whos entire shtick was genjutsu
It doesn't say too explicitly either way, but it mentions later in that fight how even a short, weak genjutsu can make all the difference, implying Sasuke's not particularly good at it. We never did see him use the Tsukuyomi at any point, either.
I could have sworn he used it vs Bee when he captured him. Its been a long time though so who knows
That fight is precisely why I claim Sasuke is bad at it. It's the only time we've ever seen him use Tsukuyomi, and he uses it very improperly to the point of basically being killed a few seconds after attempting it. If that isn't bad, I don't know what is.
At the end of the day, he's a punk with powers he has no patience/experience in using. I **really** dislike his personality and hope he just gets it over with and slits his wrists because he finally realized he's forgotten to take his meds for a long, long time.
To be fair, he used Tsukuyomi against someone that had two different chakras running in them, meaning the oxtopus could just disrupt it. I'm sure it worked, it was just bad decision making, rather than bad execution.
Eh, I'm not a fan of Sasuke but to be fair the first time he used Tsukuyomi was against the only remaining person in the Narutoverse that could have broken out of it on his own and immediately at that point.
Itachi-sama's genjutsu would have been just as useless against Bee.
On September 16 2014 16:43 AsnSensation wrote: Eh, I'm not a fan of Sasuke but to be fair the first time he used Tsukuyomi was against the only remaining person in the Narutoverse that could have broken out of it on his own and immediately at that point.
Itachi-sama's genjutsu would have been just as useless against Bee.
If i remember right Sasuke doesnt have tsukuyomi at all. It was an early translation error and most versions nowadays corrected it.
Tsukuyomi is Itachi's ms ability, Sasuke's is enton aka Amaterasu manipulation. Both have Amaterasu in their other eye.
Sasuke is decent at genjutsu, just not as good as Itachi, who is the number one genjutsu user in the manga. He one-shotted another genjutsu user at the Kage summit for example. Since Kishi doesnt want the fights to get boring Sasuke uses genjutsu exclusively on side chars or people who can break out easily though, similar to amaterasu.
That being said I have no idea why we are talking about genjutsu being important against a person who can ask all nine beasts to break it.
On September 16 2014 21:07 Blackfeather wrote: If i remember right Sasuke doesnt have tsukuyomi at all. It was an early translation error and most versions nowadays corrected it.
Tsukuyomi is Itachi's ms ability, Sasuke's is enton aka Amaterasu manipulation. Both have Amaterasu in their other eye.
Sasuke is decent at genjutsu, just not as good as Itachi, who is the number one genjutsu user in the manga. He one-shotted another genjutsu user at the Kage summit for example. Since Kishi doesnt want the fights to get boring Sasuke uses genjutsu exclusively on side chars or people who can break out easily though, similar to amaterasu.
That being said I have no idea why we are talking about genjutsu being important against a person who can ask all nine beasts to break it.
ah genjutsu, I remember when you felt so relevant back in the old days lol. Ya, Sasuke isn't as good as Itachi but nowhere as bad as some people on here make it sound, aka I agree with this post lol.
On September 12 2014 12:13 SK.Testie wrote: Actually fuck it, this has been over a decade in the making. I hope this fight lasts 40 chapters and is extremely epic so I can watch it in the anime. I hope it has them shouting at eachother inbetween major attacks. I hope it has tears and anger. I hope it becomes epic beyond measure with as little TnJ as possible. The TnJ can wait til one of them is bleeding for their life. + Show Spoiler +
#hype
4 chapters of fighting followed by 36 chapters of TNJ. The nightmare is real.
EPT
feels like there wasn't enough hype building to it after everything that just happened. 
