EPTI don't get how obito can suck chakra from madara? Doesn't madara have the same abilties, just more? If anything, it should be madara sucking out chakra from obito. And last I heard, Obito was on the verge of death. What happened there?
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
I don't get how obito can suck chakra from madara? Doesn't madara have the same abilties, just more? If anything, it should be madara sucking out chakra from obito. And last I heard, Obito was on the verge of death. What happened there? | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 20 2014 15:39 Lokian wrote: I wonder why Minato didn't reveal sage mode during the fight with Obito? The only restriction for not being able to use sage mode while in 9-tail mode is that the 9-tails didn't let it happen. At least, that was the case with Naruto, the 9-tails allowed sage chakra to sync with fox chakra and that's pretty much it. no training involved. Maybe Minato was conserving chakra or something during that fight and letting Naruto be the star? I dunno, it's a bit questionable and almost inconsistent. I don't get how obito can suck chakra from madara? Doesn't madara have the same abilties, just more? If anything, it should be madara sucking out chakra from obito. And last I heard, Obito was on the verge of death. What happened there? maybe during Obito he had no time to stand still long enough, but he had time while Madara and Obito had there heart to heart as for Obito getting Chakra from Madara Madara was caught by surprise and hasnt reacted to Obitos betrayal yet | ||
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GWdeathscythe
Brazil1091 Posts
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:21 travis wrote: Madara expected that he was being given the kyubi, he obviously didn't anticipate that obito would turn on him and I expect that is why he got hurt. Yeah, but he also has to fight against zetsu's control, and is weak from having tailed beasts pulled out of him. Remember, the tail beasts' tail whip only managed to take off Madara's arm when he wasn't a sage. How strong would Obito have to be despite what I previously mentioned? | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On February 21 2014 09:51 Dark_Chill wrote: Yeah, but he also has to fight against zetsu's control, and is weak from having tailed beasts pulled out of him. Remember, the tail beasts' tail whip only managed to take off Madara's arm when he wasn't a sage. How strong would Obito have to be despite what I previously mentioned? Obito didn't have to be strong at all to try what he's trying, all that was necessary was physical contact, so he could absorb Madara's chakra. And because of the Rinnegan, and the fact that he used to wield that same power, it makes enough sense. Whether this attack works is another matter. It could fail as well, and in his condition this would be his last move. But you have to wonder how Madara's actually going to be beaten, he looks nigh unstoppable at this point. Leading up to this point he surgically took down everyone that worked together to stop Obito - all 4 Hokage, Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, etc. I just hope the ending isn't a piece of shit cop-out. Kishi's better than that. I say that, but those two ninja tools were almost literally an ass-pull. I hope I'm wrong about that. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
The ninja tools work by calling the name of someone and that person answering. If that person doesn't answer the called person will be magically sucked into the bottle. And there was an extra chapter that did nothing but show us that Naruto is told all the name of the 9 Bijuu. Still an asspull. | ||
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17Sphynx17
580 Posts
My assumptions went as follows based on what author was showing us: The So6P shared his chakra with everyone (that essentially diluted it among them). The explanation of how the chakra was intended to function of linking them together to be shared and provide harmony was also brought up. And the place where the chakra was is around the stomach region. Given what Obito knows being the avatar for Madara's plans, I would suspect he understands those principles and was maybe waiting for that chance to stab Madara in the stomach to partake in the So6P chakra. Also, from what we can see, since chakra can be given/shared/distributed throughout this war. Obito will most likely survive the ten tails being pulled out from him. I am not entirely sure though whether him being able to battle would need him to pull back the whole ten tails, or just any of the tailed beast (excluding the 9 tails). Either that, or someone eventually gains control of Rinnegan (sasuke most likely) and resurrects Obito in the end. Also, WTF happened to Killer Bee? I mean, we know Naruto is going to die if he doesn't get transplanted the 9 tails chakra. But what about Killer Bee? He is no Uzumaki, so he should be dead already yet no one seems to care in the manga. hehe! Just my thoughts. But still though, it is funny that the only character ever mentioned to be able to survive long after a tailed beast pull out are the uzumaki clan, yet Obito Uchiha who has had the tailed beast pull out from him way longer than Naruto is still alive (but at the point near death already), yet Naruto specifically has "died". My two cents. Anyway, just looking forward to next chapter close any info gaps we have. =) | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On February 21 2014 12:47 17Sphynx17 wrote: But still though, it is funny that the only character ever mentioned to be able to survive long after a tailed beast pull out are the uzumaki clan, yet Obito Uchiha who has had the tailed beast pull out from him way longer than Naruto is still alive (but at the point near death already), yet Naruto specifically has "died". Well, Obito has Zetsu attached to him keeping him alive. He's always had that property - when Obito first had Zetsu attached to him it enabled him to survive without eating or shitting. They made that very clear. Why Naruto is suddenly dead despite being an Uzumaki is weird though. I do like the idea of the name calling somewhat though, if that's how it works. Sorta like a test so you can use the Six Paths power - recite the names of each of the tailed beasts or you get sealed. Naruto's the only person present that knows all their names, maybe that'll give him a chance to take them for himself. If he can say their names while dead anyway. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
But still though, it is funny that the only character ever mentioned to be able to survive long after a tailed beast pull out are the uzumaki clan, yet Obito Uchiha who has had the tailed beast pull out from him way longer than Naruto is still alive (but at the point near death already), yet Naruto specifically has "died". the "body" of the 10 tails (the Gedou) is essentially a huge mass of life energy and is what not only kept Madara alive for so long but spawned all those Zetsu clones Obito still had that Gedou inside his body when the Bijus were pulled out so he was fine youll notice that after Madara reclaimed it he started having trouble for a bit | ||
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damod
1106 Posts
On February 21 2014 15:26 NewSunshine wrote: Why Naruto is suddenly dead despite being an Uzumaki is weird though. Dont forget that he is only half Uzumaki, he is not completely dead yet but has very very slow heart beat and is on the verge of death. as for Obito gaining the So6p powers from madara, dont forget that obito Still has the rinnegan, which grants him to use the Preta Path of the Six paths technique. remember http://i.imgur.com/yAYv8.jpg ? i dont think he scored a fatal wound, he can suck up chakra by mere touch. but unlike pains Preta path, obito is used to the So6p chakra so thats probably why he was able to control it. With obito gaining the So6p powers i can see him giving Madara a run for his money, one successful Kamui and its game over, as i dont belive marada can escape the pocket dimention. after that huge cliffhanger of chapter 663 i expected the chapters to phase more slowly so im not really upstet, still excited to next weeks chapter. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
what if that asspull sage of the 6th path weapon drop " It can even keep those brought back with Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation sealed after the summoner releases the technique." as stated by Kurama. I'm pretty sure, this is going to be the tool they have to use to seal Madara... but what is the word he's uttered the most in his life? hashirama? peace? Madara? ugh. I hope this isn't the conclusion they use, but the fact there was a random panel where he shat them out 100% means it's going to be used. He also spat out the response pot which seals... enter Guy who throws it to Naruto, Naruto calls out the names of all 9 of the tailed beasts as only he knows them, and they all respond which allows them to be sealed, thus sucking it out of Madara, and now NO ONE has the beasts anymore except of course naruto's evil kurama half which he tells in his own mind (not to respond to the call). DUN DUN DUN. game OVER. oh god i hope not but i feel like this is too set up not to. edit: well i read this too: Due to the Kōkinjō being sealed away in the Kohaku no Jōhei, the Benihisago has been rendered useless. So that means they can't do the word seal without the sword and rope. but does that mean there is still 9 tails chakra stored in it that they can use to revive naruto? | ||
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shark.
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On February 22 2014 04:40 shark. wrote: I'm still hoping for a kinda shittier version of a Shaman king ending tbh. If Madara loses any other way its just gonna be laughable imo. I never read the shaman king ending and the online wiki i've read doesn't explain much or confuses me more than it helps. can you elaborate via pm? | ||
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Eshra
France1009 Posts
On February 22 2014 04:49 Kazeyonoma wrote: I never read the shaman king ending and the online wiki i've read doesn't explain much or confuses me more than it helps. can you elaborate via pm? Please spoiler it if you answer here. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Hao becomes the Shaman King, basically killing everyone and sucking them inside himself (the Great Spirit). Queue a huge grand-scale fight inside the great spirit, then friendship wins. In the good way sort of though, as there was no way to beat him. They didn't technically beat him, but he chose to fuck off for a while and see what happened. Or, it's kind of like what Nadeko did in Monogatari for a few months. | ||
BigFan
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 22 2014 04:34 Kazeyonoma wrote: oh my god... what if that asspull sage of the 6th path weapon drop " It can even keep those brought back with Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation sealed after the summoner releases the technique." as stated by Kurama. I'm pretty sure, this is going to be the tool they have to use to seal Madara... but what is the word he's uttered the most in his life? hashirama? peace? Madara? ugh. I hope this isn't the conclusion they use, but the fact there was a random panel where he shat them out 100% means it's going to be used. He also spat out the response pot which seals... enter Guy who throws it to Naruto, Naruto calls out the names of all 9 of the tailed beasts as only he knows them, and they all respond which allows them to be sealed, thus sucking it out of Madara, and now NO ONE has the beasts anymore except of course naruto's evil kurama half which he tells in his own mind (not to respond to the call). DUN DUN DUN. game OVER. oh god i hope not but i feel like this is too set up not to. edit: well i read this too: Due to the Kōkinjō being sealed away in the Kohaku no Jōhei, the Benihisago has been rendered useless. So that means they can't do the word seal without the sword and rope. but does that mean there is still 9 tails chakra stored in it that they can use to revive naruto? remember though the one your thinking of is a 2 piece set, and the other piece is sealed in the bigger pot so theyd ahve to let that dude out and get the weapon then soemone would ahve to equip it and slap madara, then someone else would need to cut the soul thing that comes out, and then have to wait for him to say the word (despite him knowing all about the tool) | ||
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ProBot
Canada170 Posts
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damod
1106 Posts
On February 22 2014 13:42 ProBot wrote: not gonna lie i've watched every episode from scratch starting close to 10 years ago waiting for every episode to be released subbed without reading any of the manga. People say I'm crazy ... yeah maybe. But I grew up on DBZ so as far as filler goes .... I'm used to it. i was also like that, was watching only the anime and also the fillers mostly beacuse it gave the spot light to the side characters (seriously kishi, ive grown sick of uchiha or senju lol). but evantually i had to follow the manga, only because it was nearly impossible for me to avoid spoilers. be it youtube videos or friends talking about it, i just gave up, but i was quick to learn reading the manga was no less as exciting experience, it runs your imagination. | ||
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