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DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
September 05 2013 02:48 GMT
#15141
On September 05 2013 06:23 Forumite wrote:
Really cool attacks, waiting anxiously for when Fourth dies so that the Ninetails can become whole again.

I have one huge problem with this though, which is what happened to Sasuke. He was cool and fought Kabuto and helped against the Ten-tails, but now he´s suddenly irrelevant again. He had a very short tag-team with Naruto, but that was it. I think he needs Rinnegan and Ultimate Susanoo to contribute more in this war, and I don´t like that at all. If Naruto is surpassing the First, then Sasuke should match Madara, that´s what being rivals is about.



Madara only got his rinnegan at the end of his life, and after absorbing hashirama's power.



Yeah Sasuke is looking ridiculous next to naruto, but to pop a rinnegan like that out of nowhere would be some uber ass pulling.
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 05 2013 02:53 GMT
#15142
sasuke just isn't doing anything.. doesn't mean he aint gonna bust out some crazy shit in a little bit here
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
September 05 2013 03:04 GMT
#15143
This war was all just some super Eye fucking from Sasuke, he won long ago.

Twist Ending.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 05 2013 03:27 GMT
#15144
On September 05 2013 07:55 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 07:41 BigFan wrote:
On September 05 2013 07:31 goody153 wrote:
On September 04 2013 23:34 Slaughter wrote:
I enjoyed this chapter actually, the fighting was pretty cool looking plus sage mode is relevant again ^_^

Though I still say Obitio is being made to be more powerful then he should be. The fact that he can just effortlessly block such ridiculous attacks from basically like 4 of the top 10 most OP characters of all time is Bullshit, but you know Plot armor for da villain.


well obito is supposed to be powerful .. he has 10 tails and naruto should have not been able to be on par with obito with only having incomplete 9 tails ..

10 tails is nowhere near complete though. They got a small amount of 8 tails and 9 tails chakra. Maybe the whole getting stronger as it goes is to compensate for the lower amounts of chakra it got from these two beasts.


10 tails is like made out of nature .. since its like part of ecosystem remember ? you cant fight nature with just the kyubi .. even though its incomplete .. 9 tails is still inferior to the 10 tails .. as far as manga goes

but what the hell .. screw logic .. kishimoto has long gone abandoned logic for a very long time in naruto-universe

lol, we've known that last part for a long time now.

On September 05 2013 09:10 Forikorder wrote:
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you realize that had it not been for the kyuubi going berserk after he thought Hinata died, he would've died since Pain had him pinned down and no one was able to help him so technically he didn't win if it wasn't for the kyuubi.


okay Naruto pretty much 90% solo'd the Rinnegan

in his current form, 4/6ths of the Rinnegan specials would be completely useless

the Rinnegan is flashy but it has too many utility moves

It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol

On September 05 2013 12:04 NotSorry wrote:
This war was all just some super Eye fucking from Sasuke, he won long ago.

Twist Ending.

that's too good for Kishi to pull off XD
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 05 2013 03:38 GMT
#15145
It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol


your ignoring his massive power up since the Rinnegans tech wouldnt work against him now
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 05 2013 03:58 GMT
#15146
On September 05 2013 12:38 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol


your ignoring his massive power up since the Rinnegans tech wouldnt work against him now

we are still talking during the pain arc. I'm only considering sage mode at that point which means that Naruto would've died if it wasn't for plot no justu(got mad, Kyuubi saved his butt lol). Right now though, I think it'll be easier to defeat someone like Pain.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 05 2013 04:00 GMT
#15147
On September 05 2013 12:58 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 12:38 Forikorder wrote:
It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol


your ignoring his massive power up since the Rinnegans tech wouldnt work against him now

we are still talking during the pain arc. I'm only considering sage mode at that point which means that Naruto would've died if it wasn't for plot no justu(got mad, Kyuubi saved his butt lol). Right now though, I think it'll be easier to defeat someone like Pain.

we were never talking about the pain arc, i was saying "obito isnt using the Rinnegan because its next to useless at this point in time"
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 04:07:55
September 05 2013 04:06 GMT
#15148
On September 05 2013 13:00 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 12:58 BigFan wrote:
On September 05 2013 12:38 Forikorder wrote:
It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol


your ignoring his massive power up since the Rinnegans tech wouldnt work against him now

we are still talking during the pain arc. I'm only considering sage mode at that point which means that Naruto would've died if it wasn't for plot no justu(got mad, Kyuubi saved his butt lol). Right now though, I think it'll be easier to defeat someone like Pain.

we were never talking about the pain arc, i was saying "obito isnt using the Rinnegan because its next to useless at this point in time"

nono, I meant my previous comment and your previous response was in regards to the pain arc. You know, the 90% part?

This:
On September 05 2013 09:10 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
you realize that had it not been for the kyuubi going berserk after he thought Hinata died, he would've died since Pain had him pinned down and no one was able to help him so technically he didn't win if it wasn't for the kyuubi.


okay Naruto pretty much 90% solo'd the Rinnegan

in his current form, 4/6ths of the Rinnegan specials would be completely useless

the Rinnegan is flashy but it has too many utility moves

It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 05 2013 04:39 GMT
#15149
On September 05 2013 13:06 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 13:00 Forikorder wrote:
On September 05 2013 12:58 BigFan wrote:
On September 05 2013 12:38 Forikorder wrote:
It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol


your ignoring his massive power up since the Rinnegans tech wouldnt work against him now

we are still talking during the pain arc. I'm only considering sage mode at that point which means that Naruto would've died if it wasn't for plot no justu(got mad, Kyuubi saved his butt lol). Right now though, I think it'll be easier to defeat someone like Pain.

we were never talking about the pain arc, i was saying "obito isnt using the Rinnegan because its next to useless at this point in time"

nono, I meant my previous comment and your previous response was in regards to the pain arc. You know, the 90% part?

This:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 09:10 Forikorder wrote:
you realize that had it not been for the kyuubi going berserk after he thought Hinata died, he would've died since Pain had him pinned down and no one was able to help him so technically he didn't win if it wasn't for the kyuubi.


okay Naruto pretty much 90% solo'd the Rinnegan

in his current form, 4/6ths of the Rinnegan specials would be completely useless

the Rinnegan is flashy but it has too many utility moves

It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol

which doesnt matter in any way shape or form because i was never talking about back then, and Naruto did solo 100% of it the Kuubi is as much his power as him, im just saying that Naruto just having sage mode is enough to make Rinnegan pretty obsolete

IMO Sharingan > rinnegan
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
September 05 2013 04:49 GMT
#15150
I don't know how Rinnegan can be seen as obsolete. Bringing people back from the dead, attraction, ninjutsu cancel, etc. Fight would be way easier for Obito if he just pulled a Pain lvl 1000 and destroyed everything with no time spent.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 05 2013 04:56 GMT
#15151
On September 05 2013 13:49 Dark_Chill wrote:
I don't know how Rinnegan can be seen as obsolete. Bringing people back from the dead, attraction, ninjutsu cancel, etc. Fight would be way easier for Obito if he just pulled a Pain lvl 1000 and destroyed everything with no time spent.

hes already cancelling all ninjutsu with his unbreakable shield, and his 10 tail techniques are stronger then anything asura can pull out

so all he has left is push/pull which is useless against people who can teleport like his opponents
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 05 2013 05:23 GMT
#15152
On September 05 2013 11:53 travis wrote:
sasuke just isn't doing anything.. doesn't mean he aint gonna bust out some crazy shit in a little bit here

I expect him to do something not sure what though.
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ramalama
Profile Joined September 2013
United States2 Posts
September 05 2013 23:34 GMT
#15153
Speaking of incomplete 10 tails... is Naruto also close to being a semi 10 tails jinchūriki (minus 8 tails)?

Or am I mistaken that when the tailed beasts bumped fists previously that they passed him a portion of their chakra? Seems to only take a portion.
Speak softly and carry a big stick.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 05 2013 23:59 GMT
#15154
On September 06 2013 08:34 ramalama wrote:
Speaking of incomplete 10 tails... is Naruto also close to being a semi 10 tails jinchūriki (minus 8 tails)?

Or am I mistaken that when the tailed beasts bumped fists previously that they passed him a portion of their chakra? Seems to only take a portion.

Obito is the 10 tails becuase he took the 10 tails corpse and brought it back to life then ate it

just having a bit of chakra from each Biju doesnt make a 10 tails
ramalama
Profile Joined September 2013
United States2 Posts
September 06 2013 02:09 GMT
#15155
The tailed beasts are living forms of chakra, sometimes referred to as "Chakra Monsters"


:-/
Speak softly and carry a big stick.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 06 2013 02:19 GMT
#15156
On September 05 2013 13:39 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 13:06 BigFan wrote:
On September 05 2013 13:00 Forikorder wrote:
On September 05 2013 12:58 BigFan wrote:
On September 05 2013 12:38 Forikorder wrote:
It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol


your ignoring his massive power up since the Rinnegans tech wouldnt work against him now

we are still talking during the pain arc. I'm only considering sage mode at that point which means that Naruto would've died if it wasn't for plot no justu(got mad, Kyuubi saved his butt lol). Right now though, I think it'll be easier to defeat someone like Pain.

we were never talking about the pain arc, i was saying "obito isnt using the Rinnegan because its next to useless at this point in time"

nono, I meant my previous comment and your previous response was in regards to the pain arc. You know, the 90% part?

This:
On September 05 2013 09:10 Forikorder wrote:
you realize that had it not been for the kyuubi going berserk after he thought Hinata died, he would've died since Pain had him pinned down and no one was able to help him so technically he didn't win if it wasn't for the kyuubi.


okay Naruto pretty much 90% solo'd the Rinnegan

in his current form, 4/6ths of the Rinnegan specials would be completely useless

the Rinnegan is flashy but it has too many utility moves

It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol

which doesnt matter in any way shape or form because i was never talking about back then, and Naruto did solo 100% of it the Kuubi is as much his power as him, im just saying that Naruto just having sage mode is enough to make Rinnegan pretty obsolete

IMO Sharingan > rinnegan

I disagree. I don't think the rinnegan is obsolete at all. Kyuubi might be a part of Naruto but it's still not part of sage mode which is what we were discussing in the first part. Even you said it and I quote: "okay Naruto pretty much 90% solo'd the Rinnegan" so even you agreed that Naruto couldn't solo the Rinnegan(at least during pain arc) on his own. For present time, hard to tell just how well the rinnegan stands up against Naruto but keep in mind that before this current point in time, when he encountered Madara and Nagato, Nagato beat the crap out of him and Killerbee before Itachi interfered. True that Naruto wasn't as powerful as now but there is no way I'm doubting the power of a dojustu as strong as the Rinnegan and I don't think you should too.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
September 06 2013 02:42 GMT
#15157
On September 05 2013 14:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 11:53 travis wrote:
sasuke just isn't doing anything.. doesn't mean he aint gonna bust out some crazy shit in a little bit here

I expect him to do something not sure what though.

Steal Dark Kurama with Sharingan and begin to kill people at random?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 06 2013 03:01 GMT
#15158
On September 06 2013 11:42 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 14:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On September 05 2013 11:53 travis wrote:
sasuke just isn't doing anything.. doesn't mean he aint gonna bust out some crazy shit in a little bit here

I expect him to do something not sure what though.

Steal Dark Kurama with Sharingan and begin to kill people at random?

rofl that would be hilarious. It's like Sasuke realized he can't get to Naruto's level until he becomes a jinchuuriki so now he can compete lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 03:37:37
September 06 2013 03:36 GMT
#15159
On September 06 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 13:39 Forikorder wrote:
On September 05 2013 13:06 BigFan wrote:
On September 05 2013 13:00 Forikorder wrote:
On September 05 2013 12:58 BigFan wrote:
On September 05 2013 12:38 Forikorder wrote:
It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol


your ignoring his massive power up since the Rinnegans tech wouldnt work against him now

we are still talking during the pain arc. I'm only considering sage mode at that point which means that Naruto would've died if it wasn't for plot no justu(got mad, Kyuubi saved his butt lol). Right now though, I think it'll be easier to defeat someone like Pain.

we were never talking about the pain arc, i was saying "obito isnt using the Rinnegan because its next to useless at this point in time"

nono, I meant my previous comment and your previous response was in regards to the pain arc. You know, the 90% part?

This:
On September 05 2013 09:10 Forikorder wrote:
you realize that had it not been for the kyuubi going berserk after he thought Hinata died, he would've died since Pain had him pinned down and no one was able to help him so technically he didn't win if it wasn't for the kyuubi.


okay Naruto pretty much 90% solo'd the Rinnegan

in his current form, 4/6ths of the Rinnegan specials would be completely useless

the Rinnegan is flashy but it has too many utility moves

It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol

which doesnt matter in any way shape or form because i was never talking about back then, and Naruto did solo 100% of it the Kuubi is as much his power as him, im just saying that Naruto just having sage mode is enough to make Rinnegan pretty obsolete

IMO Sharingan > rinnegan

I disagree. I don't think the rinnegan is obsolete at all. Kyuubi might be a part of Naruto but it's still not part of sage mode which is what we were discussing in the first part. Even you said it and I quote: "okay Naruto pretty much 90% solo'd the Rinnegan" so even you agreed that Naruto couldn't solo the Rinnegan(at least during pain arc) on his own. For present time, hard to tell just how well the rinnegan stands up against Naruto but keep in mind that before this current point in time, when he encountered Madara and Nagato, Nagato beat the crap out of him and Killerbee before Itachi interfered. True that Naruto wasn't as powerful as now but there is no way I'm doubting the power of a dojustu as strong as the Rinnegan and I don't think you should too.

okay let me try to phrase everything ive said as simply as possible

there is absolutely no reason for Obito to use the Rinnegan, because everything the Rinnegan can do is either pointless in the current fight or Obito is already doing only better

On September 06 2013 12:01 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 11:42 Zane wrote:
On September 05 2013 14:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On September 05 2013 11:53 travis wrote:
sasuke just isn't doing anything.. doesn't mean he aint gonna bust out some crazy shit in a little bit here

I expect him to do something not sure what though.

Steal Dark Kurama with Sharingan and begin to kill people at random?

rofl that would be hilarious. It's like Sasuke realized he can't get to Naruto's level until he becomes a jinchuuriki so now he can compete lol



sasuke stealing the other half of Kurama actually seems somewhat plausible
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 06 2013 04:12 GMT
#15160
On September 06 2013 12:36 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:
On September 05 2013 13:39 Forikorder wrote:
On September 05 2013 13:06 BigFan wrote:
On September 05 2013 13:00 Forikorder wrote:
On September 05 2013 12:58 BigFan wrote:
On September 05 2013 12:38 Forikorder wrote:
It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol


your ignoring his massive power up since the Rinnegans tech wouldnt work against him now

we are still talking during the pain arc. I'm only considering sage mode at that point which means that Naruto would've died if it wasn't for plot no justu(got mad, Kyuubi saved his butt lol). Right now though, I think it'll be easier to defeat someone like Pain.

we were never talking about the pain arc, i was saying "obito isnt using the Rinnegan because its next to useless at this point in time"

nono, I meant my previous comment and your previous response was in regards to the pain arc. You know, the 90% part?

This:
On September 05 2013 09:10 Forikorder wrote:
you realize that had it not been for the kyuubi going berserk after he thought Hinata died, he would've died since Pain had him pinned down and no one was able to help him so technically he didn't win if it wasn't for the kyuubi.


okay Naruto pretty much 90% solo'd the Rinnegan

in his current form, 4/6ths of the Rinnegan specials would be completely useless

the Rinnegan is flashy but it has too many utility moves

It's still one of the best dojustu's around. Either way, it doesn't matter if he solo'd 90% of it, he still lost to that 10% which means he dies lol

which doesnt matter in any way shape or form because i was never talking about back then, and Naruto did solo 100% of it the Kuubi is as much his power as him, im just saying that Naruto just having sage mode is enough to make Rinnegan pretty obsolete

IMO Sharingan > rinnegan

I disagree. I don't think the rinnegan is obsolete at all. Kyuubi might be a part of Naruto but it's still not part of sage mode which is what we were discussing in the first part. Even you said it and I quote: "okay Naruto pretty much 90% solo'd the Rinnegan" so even you agreed that Naruto couldn't solo the Rinnegan(at least during pain arc) on his own. For present time, hard to tell just how well the rinnegan stands up against Naruto but keep in mind that before this current point in time, when he encountered Madara and Nagato, Nagato beat the crap out of him and Killerbee before Itachi interfered. True that Naruto wasn't as powerful as now but there is no way I'm doubting the power of a dojustu as strong as the Rinnegan and I don't think you should too.

okay let me try to phrase everything ive said as simply as possible

there is absolutely no reason for Obito to use the Rinnegan, because everything the Rinnegan can do is either pointless in the current fight or Obito is already doing only better

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 12:01 BigFan wrote:
On September 06 2013 11:42 Zane wrote:
On September 05 2013 14:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On September 05 2013 11:53 travis wrote:
sasuke just isn't doing anything.. doesn't mean he aint gonna bust out some crazy shit in a little bit here

I expect him to do something not sure what though.

Steal Dark Kurama with Sharingan and begin to kill people at random?

rofl that would be hilarious. It's like Sasuke realized he can't get to Naruto's level until he becomes a jinchuuriki so now he can compete lol



sasuke stealing the other half of Kurama actually seems somewhat plausible

yes, I know there's no reason for Obito to use Rinnegan because he's already that powerful without it and Naruto is a lot stronger than when he fought Pain so he has a better chance of winning if only the Rinnegan was used which is obviously not going to happen. Having said that, we still don't know 100% how the Rinnegan scales with power. Is it a fixed attack or does the damage increase with power? We saw just how much damage Pain did and he said he doesn't compare to the sage so only speculation that it can be really power, more so than we think.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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