[Manga] Naruto - Page 751

On August 20 2013 04:45 Forikorder wrote:

why do you need an explanation? the kages were getting there asses handed to them the whole time what is there to explain?

On August 20 2013 05:09 DODswe4 wrote:

half the fun of Naruto is to actually see the fights. so skiping out on a fight that should show alot about a huge upcoming threat might be abit disepointing

Funnily enough, as time goes on I find myself caring less and less about the fights, but I still care about the characters and their progression. I mean, Naruto literally became a Super Saiyan, Onoki got crushed by not one, but two meteors and could still stand, and then all the Kages get beat to within an inch of their lives (or cut in half) but not a single one dies. It's the Pain saga all over again; don't worry! No one dies, lol! Even if they do, we'll use magic to make them fine again!

On August 20 2013 04:20 shark. wrote:
I think Obito will kill madara by accident or something. Madara doesn't seem to know that Obito can cancel out the Edo tensei with his new abilities. He has been shown to just tank stuff knowing that he will regenerate after.

On August 20 2013 04:45 Forikorder wrote:

why do you need an explanation? the kages were getting there asses handed to them the whole time what is there to explain?

On August 20 2013 06:29 erin[go]bragh wrote:
Funnily enough, as time goes on I find myself caring less and less about the fights, but I still care about the characters and their progression. I mean, Naruto literally became a Super Saiyan, Onoki got crushed by not one, but two meteors and could still stand, and then all the Kages get beat to within an inch of their lives (or cut in half) but not a single one dies. It's the Pain saga all over again; don't worry! No one dies, lol! Even if they do, we'll use magic to make them fine again!

And now that Obito is essentially the Sage of the Six Paths we're seeing Naruto's version of DBZ Beam struggles. Even Hashirama vs. Madara promises to be a let down because theres no way Hashirama is possibly a match for him now. Madara has received several post-Valley of the End power ups in the form of the Rinnegan and Wood Style, while the only power ups Hashirama has are from Edo tensei, same as Madara. I feel like Kishimoto got a little ahead of himself by essentially turning Madara into a God. I mean, Tobi/Obito was a genuinely threatening villian for most of the series despite the fact that he rarely got his hands dirty. Did we really need someone who can drop meteors from the sky and create armies of Susan'oo in order to create tension?

But as I said, I'm still curious about the characters development despite it all. I'm personally hoping for some kind of Sasuke/Sakura reconciliation and for Naruto to finally get with poor Hinata, but thats probably on the bottom of the to-do list for a shonen.

As for power ups I guess it's pretty safe to say Naruto will receive the other half of the kyuubi's chakra at some point. Probably through some self-sacrificial manner on Minato's part similar to how he got the first half. This makes me curious as to what'll happen with Sasuke, since they always progress to be relatively even in power. While I'm not a fan of anyone else getting the Rinnegan, I'd rather have Sasuke get it than anyone else. That being said, I actually think it would be cool if Sasuke awakened the sort of "pseudo-Rinnegan" that the Sage's eldest son had; essentially a Rinnegan with a spiral pattern as opposed to a ripple one.

As the Uchiha clan's ancestor's eyes it's a little more believable than the Rinnegan and also cuts out the need of Senju DNA, and it kinda makes a nice full circle effect with Sasuke being the last hope of an Uchiha redemption and unlocking their ultimate Dojutsu.

But meh. Despite whatever misgivings I have I'm sure I'll read it til the end cause by now you just have to know what happens.

It's nice to see what befell them. For some readers, fights are what they read the manga for.

On August 22 2013 08:16 Hyperbola wrote:
I just want to say that it's simply amazing how Kishimoto can write an entire chapter and say/show absolutely nothing. Truly on par with Kubo. They would both make fine politicians.

On August 20 2013 06:29 erin[go]bragh wrote:
And now that Obito is essentially the Sage of the Six Paths we're seeing Naruto's version of DBZ Beam struggles.

On August 20 2013 06:29 erin[go]bragh wrote:
Even Hashirama vs. Madara promises to be a let down because theres no way Hashirama is possibly a match for him now. Madara has received several post-Valley of the End power ups in the form of the Rinnegan and Wood Style, while the only power ups Hashirama has are from Edo tensei, same as Madara. I feel like Kishimoto got a little ahead of himself by essentially turning Madara into a God.

On August 20 2013 06:29 erin[go]bragh wrote:
I mean, Tobi/Obito was a genuinely threatening villian for most of the series despite the fact that he rarely got his hands dirty. Did we really need someone who can drop meteors from the sky and create armies of Susan'oo in order to create tension?

IMO the biggest bullshit of the series right now is how OP Obito is. Despite Naruto basically being a super saiyan, he still owned him in that one-on-one fight, even without making too much use of his eye powers. I mean Obito is basically a nobody, yet he's consistently been able to fight above kage level ever since returning from his initial "death".

On August 23 2013 12:17 Forikorder wrote:


Sharingan is as strong as the power of friendship

what do you mean without making too much use of his eye powers? when does he ever not use his eye powers? like every move he makes in a fight is making use of his eye powers

On August 23 2013 15:04 erin[go]bragh wrote:


I think he's referring to the Rinnegan specifically. We rarely see Obito use any of it's abilities, similar to Madara. I honestly think this might be a conscious effort on the author's part for the sake of "balance." The Rinnegan essentially gives you the most OP abilities in the manga, we saw this first hand with Nagato easily overpowering Kyuubi-Saiyan Naruto and Killer Bee and only being taken out thanks to plot armor. Hell, even if he only used the Deva path abilities combined with his Kamui he'd be almost unbeatable.

I don't really mind Obito's scarce use of the Rinnegan however cause it ties in nicely with a theory I have. The very TLDR version is that he didn't awaken the dojutsu himself and thus isn't able to harness it's power as effectively, similar to Kakashi's Sharingan. However, this doesn't excuse Madara. Granted he hasn't really needed it much up until now, so I'm curious to see if he uses it more during his fight with Hashirama, and how Hashirama will deal with it if he does.

Edit: And as much as I dislike super-op enemies because of how boring they can be, Obito makes sense at least. He was always a Mangekyo Sharingan equipped Uchiha, and now he's the 10 tails jinchuuriki on top of it. I mean hell, think of how worthless Naruto would be without half of the 9 tail's chakra. Now imagine all the tailed beats up to 7, with a little bit of 8 and 9, all in one person.