EPTAlso if he gets the rinnegan logic would dictate that he would be WAAAAAAAY more powerful than what Sasuke is now, and since naruto has simple childish plot, there must be some kind of eternal equality between those 2 forces, otherwise the writers would have to start writting something more thoughtful and less formulated.
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baal
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Also if he gets the rinnegan logic would dictate that he would be WAAAAAAAY more powerful than what Sasuke is now, and since naruto has simple childish plot, there must be some kind of eternal equality between those 2 forces, otherwise the writers would have to start writting something more thoughtful and less formulated. | ||
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fanatacist
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baal
10708 Posts
On May 24 2009 17:01 fanatacist wrote: Madara is stronger than Pain and they have sharingan and rinnegan respectively so no, he would not instantly become stronger than Sasuke. The user is more important than the ability in this comparison. Not in the way of only rinnegan > sharingan -_- Naruto even withouth the rinnegan could fight and defeat Pain who is ridiculously stronger than Sasuke (itachi etc), Sasuke even with his team couldnt beat the annoying owner of the 8 tail demon etc. So if we take into account that the current naruto is much more powerful than sasuke, granting him another hug boost (the rinnegan) would only widen the gap and that kinda doesnt fit he pattern of how naruto is written. i mean it could happen but its unlikely imo. | ||
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kemoryan
Spain1506 Posts
On May 24 2009 18:13 baal wrote: Not in the way of only rinnegan > sharingan -_- Naruto even withouth the rinnegan could fight and defeat Pain who is ridiculously stronger than Sasuke (itachi etc), Sasuke even with his team couldnt beat the annoying owner of the 8 tail demon etc. So if we take into account that the current naruto is much more powerful than sasuke, granting him another hug boost (the rinnegan) would only widen the gap and that kinda doesnt fit he pattern of how naruto is written. i mean it could happen but its unlikely imo. I disagree. Naruto beat a pain that had wasted a lot of chakra before fighting him. I bet the 8 tal demon would have been able to beat pain at the state he was. But Naruto getting rinnegan would be so gay I'd stop reading the manga once and for all... | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On May 24 2009 18:13 baal wrote: Not in the way of only rinnegan > sharingan -_- Naruto even withouth the rinnegan could fight and defeat Pain who is ridiculously stronger than Sasuke (itachi etc), Sasuke even with his team couldnt beat the annoying owner of the 8 tail demon etc. So if we take into account that the current naruto is much more powerful than sasuke, granting him another hug boost (the rinnegan) would only widen the gap and that kinda doesnt fit he pattern of how naruto is written. i mean it could happen but its unlikely imo. Naruto's abilities are countered by Sasuke's, it's not about who has a greater power level like it's DBZ or some shit or who can beat whom necessarily. His sharingan counters Naruto's speed/power (he can predict movements etc.), his fire counters wind techniques, and Naruto doesn't have anything against his lightning or genjutsu. How do you know Pain is stronger than Sasuke? The 8-tail is a fucking beast, you think Naruto is strong enough to take him? Everything you are saying is subjective nonsense. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On May 25 2009 00:13 fanatacist wrote: Naruto's abilities are countered by Sasuke's, it's not about who has a greater power level like it's DBZ or some shit or who can beat whom necessarily. His sharingan counters Naruto's speed/power (he can predict movements etc.), his fire counters wind techniques, and Naruto doesn't have anything against his lightning or genjutsu. How do you know Pain is stronger than Sasuke? The 8-tail is a fucking beast, you think Naruto is strong enough to take him? Everything you are saying is subjective nonsense. absolutely agree! so many people just form these opinions of [x] person is this strong, and then they stick with them like fighting ability in naruto is linear and shit. but it isn't. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On May 25 2009 00:13 fanatacist wrote: Naruto's abilities are countered by Sasuke's, it's not about who has a greater power level like it's DBZ or some shit or who can beat whom necessarily. His sharingan counters Naruto's speed/power (he can predict movements etc.), his fire counters wind techniques, and Naruto doesn't have anything against his lightning or genjutsu. How do you know Pain is stronger than Sasuke? The 8-tail is a fucking beast, you think Naruto is strong enough to take him? Everything you are saying is subjective nonsense. It's odd you say this. We know for certain that if someone is quick enough the Sharingan user can see the movements but they won't be able to react in time. We saw Naruto speed blitz one of Pain's bodies from the top of Gamabunta from a considerable distance away so he is a hell of a lot faster than before... not to mention that Sasuke hasn't exactly shown to be the king of endurance (much like Itachi) and one hit from Naruto HURTS for obvious reasons when sage mode is active. Sasuke has no fire techniques on par with the Rasenshuriken unless you want to count Amaterasu which is easily dodged and Sasuke can only use Amaterasu like twice... Naruto can use his super technique twice per CLONE (they don't seem that hard to make...) and he has other things like his super rasengans that he can seemingly just spam. Fire doesn't automatically counter wind just because, it has to be still relatively close in power so anything besides an S-rank fire technique is going to lose against the Rasenshuriken. The Kirin/Chidori i'll grant you but that takes a hell of a setup... also Wind>Lightning and the Rasenshuriken is clearly on par with the Kirin and is far more powerful than the Chidori. Naruto has better summons, by a HUGE amount and he has more symbiosis with them. Yes I agree that this isn't like DBZ but Naruto's recent powerboosts negate A LOT of the advantages Sasuke used to have over him. The only thing really that Sasuke has are genjutsu which are negated when someone elses chakra is surging through you... a la the nature energy clones. That part is subjective but if a touch from Sakura negates one of Itachi's illusions I don't see why merging with a clone made of different chakra wouldn't do the same. Right now I'd consider a fight between the two roughly equal.. for the first time EVER. I'm fairly certain Sasuke would lose to a fight against Pain... but it isn't for a simple reason like he's "weaker" than Naruto or whatever but Naruto has the proper tools with which to engage Pain. He's got clones for distraction, a lot of chakra to use, and most importantly he has good boss level summons that negated Pain's summons. Sasuke wouldn't have been able to brace himself against that massive Shinra Tensei that Pain used on Naruto for instance. In the same way I think that the 8-tail would probably beat Naruto... Sasuke was simply better equipped to deal with that guy and still got his throat torn out. | ||
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TealLurker
United States791 Posts
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/449/ + Show Spoiler + Ugh! I don't know if I like the entire revive the village thing. Doesn't this just undo everything the past 30+ chapters? And more Sasuke to come...great... | ||
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artofmagic
United States1951 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + i dont think they emphasize his super power too well.. and wow sasuke is ready to konoha.. that's a big wtf.. | ||
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yrag89
Malaysia315 Posts
I don't know, if he can do that, why didn't he just revive yahiko since the beginning? | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On May 29 2009 14:30 yrag89 wrote: + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler + I don't know, if he can do that, why didn't he just revive yahiko since the beginning? It has to do with the special Jutsu he used to consume all those souls. So, this chapter...I'm kind of speechless. I don't really know what to say. | ||
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yrag89
Malaysia315 Posts
On May 29 2009 14:35 thunk wrote: + Show Spoiler + It has to do with the special Jutsu he used to consume all those souls. So, this chapter...I'm kind of speechless. I don't really know what to say. + Show Spoiler + Other than that, Naruto vs Sasuke the 3rd fight  Hope no interference this time between them. | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
Yeah, I'm not so sure how I feel about this whole entire let's undo all the garbage that's gone over the last 20 chapters, like TealLurker said. | ||
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ZeroCartin
Costa Rica2390 Posts
On May 29 2009 14:58 thunk wrote: + Show Spoiler + Yeah, I'm not so sure how I feel about this whole entire let's undo all the garbage that's gone over the last 20 chapters, like TealLurker said. + Show Spoiler + CTRL+Z FOR THE WIN | ||
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SHr3DD3r
Pakistan2137 Posts
Very very stupid chapter. They had such an incredible character - and he revives everyone in the village - even people he did not... kill with that soul technique - at the expense of his life. His beliefs and mood changed in the blink of an eye. Ridiculously bad writing. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On May 29 2009 15:08 SHr3DD3r wrote: + Show Spoiler + Very very stupid chapter. They had such an incredible character - and he revives everyone in the village - even people he did not... kill with that soul technique - at the expense of his life. His beliefs and mood changed in the blink of an eye. Ridiculously bad writing. + Show Spoiler + I agree that was pretty garbage. Then again... it's shounen. and we all knew kakashi was coming back somehow.... Still, it's garbage. | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
also what happen to the corpses that happen to be caught in the atom bomb? | ||
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SaveYourSavior
United States1071 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20666 Posts
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2nd1rst
United States40 Posts
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