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Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
August 03 2011 21:31 GMT
#5841
Dang it Kishimoto! What happened to the cute little manga with cleverly written moral messages about overcoming loneliness and isolation? This shit has devolved into a complicated daytime soap opera. Eye transplants? People coming back from the dead? What's next? A temporal vortex is going to appear and Naruto is going to be sucked back in time to before Itachi killed his entire clan so that he can stop him and make Sasuke into a happy little kid again? Jeeze...

/end rant...

Achromic
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
773 Posts
August 03 2011 21:34 GMT
#5842
On August 04 2011 04:08 bigbeau wrote:
Fuckin' Itachi, man. At first, he was evil, but he was so badass cuz his shit was crazy strong. Then, he's fucking good and was never evil, and was more badass than before. Now, he's still fucking good, and hes still fucking unstoppable, and his foresight is amazing. Oh well, that's what you get when you read mangas, bad ass characters.

Itachi was badass when he was "evil"

When it was revealed that he was in fact "good" in order to serve the whole of the village, I still thought Itachi was badass.

Now Itachi just seems like an OP character.
Blah
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
August 03 2011 21:37 GMT
#5843
The whole manga is just one of Itachi's illusions, seems like years of torture but really it's only been 7seconds.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
August 03 2011 21:45 GMT
#5844
the whole manga is an illusion created by Masashi Kishimoto

who is in an illusion created by leonardo dicaprio
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 03 2011 21:45 GMT
#5845
Itachi OP.

So OP.

Is he immortal now?
secret - never again
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
August 03 2011 21:46 GMT
#5846
On August 04 2011 06:45 ch33psh33p wrote:
Itachi OP.

So OP.

Is he immortal now?


He's a zombie...
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 03 2011 21:46 GMT
#5847
On August 04 2011 06:46 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 06:45 ch33psh33p wrote:
Itachi OP.

So OP.

Is he immortal now?


He's a zombie...


As in, can he not die anymore?
secret - never again
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 03 2011 21:47 GMT
#5848
On August 04 2011 06:20 yrba1 wrote:
Hmmm, so the genjutsu activates once every 10 years. Second timeskip anyone?

I think Itachi meant 10 years has passed since the genjutsu was used by SHISUI
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Achromic
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
773 Posts
August 03 2011 21:50 GMT
#5849
On August 04 2011 06:46 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 06:46 NotSorry wrote:
On August 04 2011 06:45 ch33psh33p wrote:
Itachi OP.

So OP.

Is he immortal now?


He's a zombie...


As in, can he not die anymore?

He needs to be patched.
Blah
Xplitcit
Profile Joined October 2010
United States419 Posts
August 03 2011 21:55 GMT
#5850
On August 04 2011 06:45 EtohEtoh wrote:
the whole manga is an illusion created by Masashi Kishimoto

who is in an illusion created by leonardo dicaprio

^this
It aint easy being crazy
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
August 03 2011 23:01 GMT
#5851
On August 04 2011 00:29 Artunit wrote:
Wonder how will kabuto take advantage of shishui's eyes. Since he kinda happy knowing about it o.o


He probably wants it to use to resurrect Shishui. He only needs genetic information right? Not the entire body?

As shown by various other Doijutsu users, even if the original eyes are removed/destroyed, when the person is resurrected by Edo Tensai, their ENTIRE body is recovered, which makes sense, because it is essentially a cloning process with immortality built in. Thus, even if the eyes need to recharge for 10 years to use that Genjutsu again, I could foreseeable see how a resurrected Shishui could use it instantly without recharging since its a new set of Shinshui eyes that still posess the same power since it should be an exact replica.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 03 2011 23:02 GMT
#5852
hey oh reach ridiculous amount of lol btu at least its not bleach yet.
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
August 03 2011 23:03 GMT
#5853
Remember when sharingan was capable of stealing abilites any only that? Me neither.
ggaemo fan
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
August 03 2011 23:05 GMT
#5854
On August 04 2011 08:01 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 00:29 Artunit wrote:
Wonder how will kabuto take advantage of shishui's eyes. Since he kinda happy knowing about it o.o


He probably wants it to use to resurrect Shishui. He only needs genetic information right? Not the entire body?

As shown by various other Doijutsu users, even if the original eyes are removed/destroyed, when the person is resurrected by Edo Tensai, their ENTIRE body is recovered, which makes sense, because it is essentially a cloning process with immortality built in. Thus, even if the eyes need to recharge for 10 years to use that Genjutsu again, I could foreseeable see how a resurrected Shishui could use it instantly without recharging since its a new set of Shinshui eyes that still posess the same power since it should be an exact replica.


With that couldn't he just resurrect him, disintegrate him, resurrect him again, and endlessly use the eyes? Since if it's truly a cloning process and a perfect copy, then he could do this infinitely.

It also doesn't explain whatsoever how the personalities are intact and why he can't make multiple copies of one ninja, AKA ten Itachis instead of just one.

I hope that isn't how Edo Tensei actually works.
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
August 03 2011 23:09 GMT
#5855
On August 04 2011 08:05 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 08:01 Emporio wrote:
On August 04 2011 00:29 Artunit wrote:
Wonder how will kabuto take advantage of shishui's eyes. Since he kinda happy knowing about it o.o


He probably wants it to use to resurrect Shishui. He only needs genetic information right? Not the entire body?

As shown by various other Doijutsu users, even if the original eyes are removed/destroyed, when the person is resurrected by Edo Tensai, their ENTIRE body is recovered, which makes sense, because it is essentially a cloning process with immortality built in. Thus, even if the eyes need to recharge for 10 years to use that Genjutsu again, I could foreseeable see how a resurrected Shishui could use it instantly without recharging since its a new set of Shinshui eyes that still posess the same power since it should be an exact replica.


With that couldn't he just resurrect him, disintegrate him, resurrect him again, and endlessly use the eyes? Since if it's truly a cloning process and a perfect copy, then he could do this infinitely.

It also doesn't explain whatsoever how the personalities are intact and why he can't make multiple copies of one ninja, AKA ten Itachis instead of just one.

I hope that isn't how Edo Tensei actually works.


My thought was that it's a combination of a cloning technique combined with a soul summoning.

In the example of the First and Second Hokage, they clearly had souls that could be sealed away, and it's implied (I think, maybe it's explicit) that by sealing their souls away, they can't be resurrected anymore.

I think what happens is that Edo Tensei recreates the body with cloning and then calls the soul from the afterlife to inhabit the cloned body, granting the memory, abilities, etc.

Thus, he can't make multiple copies of the same person, but I don't really see why he couldn't resummon the same person, so long as the soul isn't sealed away or something.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 23:15:32
August 03 2011 23:11 GMT
#5856
When I first saw Kabuto's Edo Tensei, I said to myself "Shit. Now all the characters who died before the events in the manga will lose their mysterious, legendary feel and the deaths we've seen will look pointless." Now I've changed my mind. It's even worse. I wish Kishimoto would've realised he needs villains before killing most Akatsuki members.
blindsniper
Profile Joined July 2010
United States143 Posts
August 03 2011 23:15 GMT
#5857
What's next? A temporal vortex is going to appear and Naruto is going to be sucked back in time to before Itachi killed his entire clan so that he can stop him and make Sasuke into a happy little kid again? Jeeze...

Shh! Don't give him any ideas!
"Video games are bad for you? That's what they said about rock and roll." - Shigeru Miyamoto
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
August 03 2011 23:16 GMT
#5858
On August 04 2011 08:09 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 08:05 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On August 04 2011 08:01 Emporio wrote:
On August 04 2011 00:29 Artunit wrote:
Wonder how will kabuto take advantage of shishui's eyes. Since he kinda happy knowing about it o.o


He probably wants it to use to resurrect Shishui. He only needs genetic information right? Not the entire body?

As shown by various other Doijutsu users, even if the original eyes are removed/destroyed, when the person is resurrected by Edo Tensai, their ENTIRE body is recovered, which makes sense, because it is essentially a cloning process with immortality built in. Thus, even if the eyes need to recharge for 10 years to use that Genjutsu again, I could foreseeable see how a resurrected Shishui could use it instantly without recharging since its a new set of Shinshui eyes that still posess the same power since it should be an exact replica.


With that couldn't he just resurrect him, disintegrate him, resurrect him again, and endlessly use the eyes? Since if it's truly a cloning process and a perfect copy, then he could do this infinitely.

It also doesn't explain whatsoever how the personalities are intact and why he can't make multiple copies of one ninja, AKA ten Itachis instead of just one.

I hope that isn't how Edo Tensei actually works.


My thought was that it's a combination of a cloning technique combined with a soul summoning.

In the example of the First and Second Hokage, they clearly had souls that could be sealed away, and it's implied (I think, maybe it's explicit) that by sealing their souls away, they can't be resurrected anymore.

I think what happens is that Edo Tensei recreates the body with cloning and then calls the soul from the afterlife to inhabit the cloned body, granting the memory, abilities, etc.

Thus, he can't make multiple copies of the same person, but I don't really see why he couldn't resummon the same person, so long as the soul isn't sealed away or something.


OK, that makes sense. But yeah, even with those rules, he could just disintegrate Shisui's body and remake it, without waiting ten years for the Mangekyou then.
Kfish
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Chile282 Posts
August 03 2011 23:28 GMT
#5859
so i haden't read the manga in a while, since bee was teaching naruto for the first time... After that, reading to the last episode out I can't help but feel like I will have withdrawal symptoms until I can read more...

When are the new manga episodes released? How frequently? AHH!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 03 2011 23:44 GMT
#5860
1.) Itachi is an ultimate badass

2.) This chapter was good

3.) I didn't understand what was happening at the very end.
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