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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-08 06:09:35
January 08 2018 06:08 GMT
#3161
On January 08 2018 14:50 [Phantom] wrote:
There is a theory that Vegeta will get a new transformation that's different from UI and people support it by saying Vegeta is a proud Saiyan, and UI isn't a saiyan technique so he will go the saijyan route. With the precedent that others have gotten different transformations, Kale having the legendary one and Trunks the rage one, so there is a precedent that different saijans can achieve different forms.

I still don't think Vegetta will get a new form, at least not now


If you want to see Vegeta's new form look at the new end credits and at the very end it shows Vegeta's new form next to Goku in UI.

Here is a quick one I found on Google: https://otakukart.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Dragon-Ball-super.png
When I think of something else, something will go here
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
January 08 2018 06:43 GMT
#3162
On January 08 2018 15:08 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 14:50 [Phantom] wrote:
There is a theory that Vegeta will get a new transformation that's different from UI and people support it by saying Vegeta is a proud Saiyan, and UI isn't a saiyan technique so he will go the saijyan route. With the precedent that others have gotten different transformations, Kale having the legendary one and Trunks the rage one, so there is a precedent that different saijans can achieve different forms.

I still don't think Vegetta will get a new form, at least not now


If you want to see Vegeta's new form look at the new end credits and at the very end it shows Vegeta's new form next to Goku in UI.

Here is a quick one I found on Google: https://otakukart.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Dragon-Ball-super.png


Thanks. I've seen the image, I just dont think its a new form I think it's just super saiyan blue. Sure it has different puppils but that could even be just a thing of the artist that draw it. Some say it's UI SSB which...I don't think will ever happen and if it happens Vegeta won't be the one to get it first. Other say it's a placeholder and it's actualy UI Vegeta colored blue and thhey will recolor his hair and eyes when he gets UI and that's why he has UI eyes...I see that as more as a possibility.

If that tunrs out to be a new form, well I think it's kinda dissapointing as it's just SSB with different eyes so personally I hope not, but we'll see.

Then again, I was dissapointed with UI Goku too until I actually saw it in the special (before I had just seen him in promo images) and now I think it looks very cool.

On January 08 2018 14:53 LegalLord wrote:
Another theory I've heard is that it is based on Super Saiyan Rose, because of the visual similarity. Though that is not necessarily a power-up. Hopefully it's something unique and impressive that will give Geets a meaningful chance to contribute to owning the buff grey blob.


Oh yeah forgot about rose, that's yet another example of different saiyans having different transformations.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 08 2018 08:00 GMT
#3163
On January 08 2018 15:43 [Phantom] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 15:08 blade55555 wrote:
On January 08 2018 14:50 [Phantom] wrote:
There is a theory that Vegeta will get a new transformation that's different from UI and people support it by saying Vegeta is a proud Saiyan, and UI isn't a saiyan technique so he will go the saijyan route. With the precedent that others have gotten different transformations, Kale having the legendary one and Trunks the rage one, so there is a precedent that different saijans can achieve different forms.

I still don't think Vegetta will get a new form, at least not now


If you want to see Vegeta's new form look at the new end credits and at the very end it shows Vegeta's new form next to Goku in UI.

Here is a quick one I found on Google: https://otakukart.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Dragon-Ball-super.png


Thanks. I've seen the image, I just dont think its a new form I think it's just super saiyan blue. Sure it has different puppils but that could even be just a thing of the artist that draw it. Some say it's UI SSB which...I don't think will ever happen and if it happens Vegeta won't be the one to get it first. Other say it's a placeholder and it's actualy UI Vegeta colored blue and thhey will recolor his hair and eyes when he gets UI and that's why he has UI eyes...I see that as more as a possibility.

If that tunrs out to be a new form, well I think it's kinda dissapointing as it's just SSB with different eyes so personally I hope not, but we'll see.

Then again, I was dissapointed with UI Goku too until I actually saw it in the special (before I had just seen him in promo images) and now I think it looks very cool.

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2018 14:53 LegalLord wrote:
Another theory I've heard is that it is based on Super Saiyan Rose, because of the visual similarity. Though that is not necessarily a power-up. Hopefully it's something unique and impressive that will give Geets a meaningful chance to contribute to owning the buff grey blob.


Oh yeah forgot about rose, that's yet another example of different saiyans having different transformations.



His hair is darker blue as well. I hope it's his new form and not a place holder. I think it looks cooler than ultra instinct. But both have the same eyes, Vegeta just has dark blue hair rather than the lighter blue from before. Either way he's getting a new form, don't see it being called SSB but maybe i'm wrong.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13995 Posts
January 08 2018 12:20 GMT
#3164
It might be SSB2 + Show Spoiler +
but I heard reports that at the end of the next episode Goku achieves SSB2 not Vegeta
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 08 2018 19:25 GMT
#3165
Could you link those reports? Would be curious where you are seeing those .
When I think of something else, something will go here
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-08 21:14:36
January 08 2018 21:14 GMT
#3166
The preview at the end of the episode says Vegeta is the one that surpasses SSJ Blue, so it'd be really weird if it was Goku. He already has, anyway, with Ultra Instinct. It looks like this is how they differentiate Vegeta from Goku though, which is good. It's kinda boring if he just always lags 1 step behind Goku forever. Give him something special of his own, I say.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
January 08 2018 21:42 GMT
#3167
On January 09 2018 06:14 NewSunshine wrote:
The preview at the end of the episode says Vegeta is the one that surpasses SSJ Blue, so it'd be really weird if it was Goku. He already has, anyway, with Ultra Instinct. It looks like this is how they differentiate Vegeta from Goku though, which is good. It's kinda boring if he just always lags 1 step behind Goku forever. Give him something special of his own, I say.


Not only that, but also if his base SSB form officially surpasses Goku, then every new antagonist requires teamwork, and Vegeta has no excuse for jobbing anymore. Then I guess Gohan gets that mantle next.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
January 10 2018 23:54 GMT
#3168
Anyone here pumped for DBFZ btw? If we're all noobs we should make some lobbies and play together
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 11 2018 00:56 GMT
#3169
On January 11 2018 08:54 TheEmulator wrote:
Anyone here pumped for DBFZ btw? If we're all noobs we should make some lobbies and play together


hell yeah, i'd be down. my friend who plays a lot of sfv gave me his old stick, so I may try using that.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 11 2018 02:54 GMT
#3170
On January 11 2018 08:54 TheEmulator wrote:
Anyone here pumped for DBFZ btw? If we're all noobs we should make some lobbies and play together


Yeah. I wasn't originally, but after watching footage I am excited to play it. I'll be playing on PC though. Going to suck so much, never been a big fighting game fan.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 11 2018 04:12 GMT
#3171
On January 11 2018 11:54 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2018 08:54 TheEmulator wrote:
Anyone here pumped for DBFZ btw? If we're all noobs we should make some lobbies and play together


Yeah. I wasn't originally, but after watching footage I am excited to play it. I'll be playing on PC though. Going to suck so much, never been a big fighting game fan.


Same. Wanna hit up the time chamber together?

Anyone else wanna join?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 11 2018 05:01 GMT
#3172
Definitely, I'll play anyone. Going to play the open beta this weekend on my xbox one, but I think I am going to buy a dualshock controller for the PC. Don't think I could play a fighting game well on mouse/keyboard.
When I think of something else, something will go here
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 05:20:25
January 11 2018 05:18 GMT
#3173
Yea I don't think anyone plays with KB/M (or at least they don't play well). PS4 Dualshock controllers and Fight Sticks (whatever brand/version you like) are fairly common. Xbox 360 controllers are apparently super bad (something about the dpad sucking).

I pre-ordered the game on PS4, although I might end up getting it on steam as well. My PS4 pre-order was a Christmas gift from my brother, so I don't mind paying for the game on steam as well.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23894 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 06:07:25
January 11 2018 06:06 GMT
#3174
On January 11 2018 14:18 TheEmulator wrote:
Yea I don't think anyone plays with KB/M (or at least they don't play well). PS4 Dualshock controllers and Fight Sticks (whatever brand/version you like) are fairly common. Xbox 360 controllers are apparently super bad (something about the dpad sucking).

I pre-ordered the game on PS4, although I might end up getting it on steam as well. My PS4 pre-order was a Christmas gift from my brother, so I don't mind paying for the game on steam as well.

Feel like this d-pad issue is beyond my skill cap but I'm torn on which version I want.

Most people going with PC here? Be nice if it made the play anywhere list, but no such luck
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
January 11 2018 14:34 GMT
#3175
I'm gonna be going with PC, cause I want to play a DBZ game, but I generally don't do fighting games. Is mouse/Keyboard adequate in any way, or heavily discouraged?
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10877 Posts
January 11 2018 14:48 GMT
#3176
Depends on the game.
You most likely won't become a tournament player on the keyboard but you can easily play at a decent level.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 11 2018 14:51 GMT
#3177
My favorite DBZ game remains Budokai Tenkaichi 3; from what I hear FZ seems like it’s being described as a refinement on that. So I’m certainly at the least interested in the idea. But I’ll wait; I don’t have much time for gaming and I’ll wait for reviews to see if it lives up to expectations. I heard good things before, though.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
January 11 2018 17:17 GMT
#3178
goku was kaioken x 10 and couldn't even scratch jiren, but vegeta blue can gut punch him and gut kick him in blue and knock him down with a final flash using enraged blue.... UGH. i seriously wish jiren would just crush goku + vegeta, win, and then wish all the universes back. they really fucked the power levels up
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 11 2018 17:31 GMT
#3179
On January 12 2018 02:17 fishjie wrote:
goku was kaioken x 10 and couldn't even scratch jiren, but vegeta blue can gut punch him and gut kick him in blue and knock him down with a final flash using enraged blue.... UGH. i seriously wish jiren would just crush goku + vegeta, win, and then wish all the universes back. they really fucked the power levels up


I still think Jiren is weaker than his first fight. I really think his meditation is key.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
January 11 2018 18:05 GMT
#3180
I remain unconvinced by the meditation theory, so far there's nothing to suggest either way. I mean, I know it's DBS and the writing is generally unreliable, but this is a 48-minute encounter. If his power were so sketchy that he has to stop after using it for 2 minutes and charge it back up, I doubt we'd see Belmod acting so confident in him. That said, he definitely was holding back in this fight, taking Vegeta's remarks as canon. Looking back to his fight with UI Goku, which didn't leave so much as a mark on him, there's a clear discrepancy.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
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