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On December 02 2017 02:12 Lylat wrote:
Why do you all think Frieza is going to betray U7 ?
The most important thing for him is his survival, what benefit would he get from betraying U7 since they're winning so far ?
The only universe I'd see him side with is U11 with op Jiren, but I don't think the Pride Troopers would agree on an alliance with Frieza anyway.
The writers could create some arbitrary loophole that allows Frieza to have the power of the gods/ survive even without Goku/ U7, etc. A lot of it is just theorycrafting at this point, imo.
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Canada8991 Posts
On December 02 2017 02:12 Lylat wrote:
Why do you all think Frieza is going to betray U7 ?
The most important thing for him is his survival, what benefit would he get from betraying U7 since they're winning so far ?
The only universe I'd see him side with is U11 with op Jiren, but I don't think the Pride Troopers would agree on an alliance with Frieza anyway.
The last fighter gets the super dragon balls, so if U7 win, or if he think they will win, he might betray them to make sure he is the last one standing. I assume he want to become a god, or maybe even take Zenos places?
Even if U7 wins he go back to hell I think.
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I'm quite sure at this point that Freeza defecting to U4 was little more than misdirection. It was a plot point clearly related to the actual reality of the situation but also it didn't actually happen. Someone played it off from hype purposes.
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Does the last fighter or the best fighter receive the super dragon balls? I thought it's the latter.
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Canada8991 Posts
On December 02 2017 03:38 RvB wrote:
Does the last fighter or the best fighter receive the super dragon balls? I thought it's the latter.
Hum, dunno I kind of assumed it was the same things, the winner of the tournament was both the best and the last, but now that you talk about it maybe we could have a scenario where those are different.
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I assumed the winner of the SDBs would go to someone who entertained Zeno the most.
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On December 02 2017 03:38 RvB wrote:
Does the last fighter or the best fighter receive the super dragon balls? I thought it's the latter.
Very relevant question. I could totally see Zeno giving the super dragon balls to whoever made him whoa the most. Kefla? lol
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Elentos
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On December 02 2017 04:27 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2017 03:38 RvB wrote:
Does the last fighter or the best fighter receive the super dragon balls? I thought it's the latter. Very relevant question. I could totally see Zeno giving the super dragon balls to whoever made him whoa the most. Kefla? lol
I would suppose they won't give them to fighters from an erased universe and I don't see U6 lasting to the end.
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On December 02 2017 04:30 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2017 04:27 Mohdoo wrote:On December 02 2017 03:38 RvB wrote:
Does the last fighter or the best fighter receive the super dragon balls? I thought it's the latter. Very relevant question. I could totally see Zeno giving the super dragon balls to whoever made him whoa the most. Kefla? lol I would suppose they won't give them to fighters from an erased universe and I don't see U6 lasting to the end.
I am not convinced Zeno restoring a universe is any less trivial than erasing one.
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Canada8991 Posts
Lets be honest there is 0 chance that if Zeno give the DB to his favourite fighter it's not Goku.
No way the writer don't use that opportunity to tell us how amazing, extraordinary, genius, courageous, gentle, honest, charming, goofy, strong, tenacious, resourceful, easy going, loving, respectful and overall perfect Goku is and how everyone else is basically trash compare to the magnificence of the one and ONLY main character.
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Zeno definitely is enamored with Goku and his fighting.
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All these Freeza theories assume that the Super Dragon Balls are stronger than Zeno. Can somebody really wish to be more powerful than Zeno?
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Zeno himself doesn't seem to be that powerful. The grand priest seemed concerned and had to shield the Zeno's during Jiren and Goku's spirit bomb attack.
Zeno also appears to have trouble seeing some of the fighting (it's before the Jiren vs Goku fight iirc) where he had to use his pad to slow down and see what happened.
On December 02 2017 03:38 RvB wrote:
Does the last fighter or the best fighter receive the super dragon balls? I thought it's the latter.
It's supposed to be the best fighter, but I have a feeling it's really the last fighter. I wouldn't focus too much on what they said before hand.
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Well if they wanted to they could have U7 lose but Zeno picks Goku as best fighter so he gets to do w/e with the SDBs
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Cricketer12
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On December 02 2017 07:25 andrewlt wrote:
All these Freeza theories assume that the Super Dragon Balls are stronger than Zeno. Can somebody really wish to be more powerful than Zeno?
The super dragon that super shenron serves appears to be the strongest being of them all. So yes, you can wish to take out zeno.
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On December 02 2017 21:49 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2017 07:25 andrewlt wrote:
All these Freeza theories assume that the Super Dragon Balls are stronger than Zeno. Can somebody really wish to be more powerful than Zeno? The super dragon that super shenron serves appears to be the strongest being of them all. So yes, you can wish to take out zeno.
Zen Oh and Super Duper? Shenron kinda remind me of The Oracle and the KFC dude from the Matrix.
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I counted three arms, two stomachs. Not that many.
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Cricketer12
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That was the best episode in awhile, special beam cannon, namekian fusion, u2 AND u6 gone, father son kamehameha, AND we finally getting the invis fighters next episode
+ Show Spoiler +also vegeta doesn't ring out, toriyama tweeted he gets a new form in January
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On December 03 2017 11:50 Cricketer12 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +also vegeta doesn't ring out, toriyama tweeted he gets a new form in January
+ Show Spoiler +Did anyone really think he would ring out?
That's good news though, seems he won't actually be irrelevant then. Also would be cool to see what Freezer's true power is since he's evidently got some OP shit in reserve.
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Cricketer12
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On December 03 2017 11:54 LegalLord wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Did anyone really think he would ring out?
That's good news though, seems he won't actually be irrelevant then. Also would be cool to see what Freezer's true power is since he's evidently got some OP shit in reserve.
+ Show Spoiler +well i'm expecting freeza's plan is to have goku eliminate jiren in UI form, then golden can take out the fatigued goku, making him essentially the strongest as I'm sure he is absolutely confident he can beat Vegeta
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