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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9025 Posts
November 12 2017 05:42 GMT
#2781
Good news is that tomorrow we get Gintama and can forget about DBS. Although I would love Gintama to spoof DBS before it ends.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-12 06:09:16
November 12 2017 06:08 GMT
#2782
Honestly wasn't expecting UI to make an appearance during this fight. Was expecting Goku to regain enough stamina for blue and clean up Kefla, or Kefla to run out of fusion time and break apart mid-fight against Goku and then Frieza knocks them off once he realizes no more fight to watch. Which just pisses off Goku but he's too weak to go after him.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Bourgeois
Profile Joined June 2017
81 Posts
November 12 2017 07:50 GMT
#2783
On November 12 2017 14:42 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Good news is that tomorrow we get Gintama and can forget about DBS. Although I would love Gintama to spoof DBS before it ends.


Or would be good news, if Gintama was actually any good. It's been garbage for a long time now, with the same jokes and cliches that are overused to death. It's kind of like Family Guy - the first season has you laughing in tears. Nowadays watching it is a chore and hardly even goes anywhere near making you crack a smile.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
November 12 2017 11:08 GMT
#2784
On November 12 2017 15:08 Zooper31 wrote:
Honestly wasn't expecting UI to make an appearance during this fight. Was expecting Goku to regain enough stamina for blue and clean up Kefla, or Kefla to run out of fusion time and break apart mid-fight against Goku and then Frieza knocks them off once he realizes no more fight to watch. Which just pisses off Goku but he's too weak to go after him.

that wont happen for a while seeing how each ep is like a minute and they have at least 15mins of fusion
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 12 2017 12:53 GMT
#2785
On November 12 2017 13:32 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I thought the fight was good. Goku used the fight to push past his limits once again and he's back in UI. Now it looks like he'll reach SSJUI. It was definitely interesting to watch. Vegeta needs an episode to himself. As does Gohan. Forgot he learned the Demon Flash from Piccolo. Nice to see it again. Kefla is a fucking broken.

ya Kefla is broken lol but we've known for ages that two strong people fusioning, aka power+personality etc... can make a complete, much stronger individual. We've both shown that Kale has unlimited potential and that Caulifa is more or less, close to crazy potential too. Add the fact that Kale is essentially in love with Caulifa lol and you can see how OP the fusion will be. Does seems a bit silly that it's going up against Blue and strong enough to win but, Goku's stamina still hasn't recovered and both were already at SSJ2, potentially higher so maybe, just maybe the gap to Blue isn't as big as we think.

Either way, as someone said, I'd rather we saw more Vegeta or Gohan fighting. This fight has been going on for a while now, feels like it's a bit too long atm. Wouldn't be surprised to see Kefla go SSJ3 tbh given that Gotanks went SSJ3 and they've been really pushing up power levels this tourney.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9025 Posts
November 12 2017 15:39 GMT
#2786
On November 12 2017 16:50 Bourgeois wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 14:42 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Good news is that tomorrow we get Gintama and can forget about DBS. Although I would love Gintama to spoof DBS before it ends.


Or would be good news, if Gintama was actually any good. It's been garbage for a long time now, with the same jokes and cliches that are overused to death. It's kind of like Family Guy - the first season has you laughing in tears. Nowadays watching it is a chore and hardly even goes anywhere near making you crack a smile.

When is the last time you watched it? Because it's no where near what it used to be. They're winding down to the end of the series. The last season alone was some of the best written and animated anime of all time. No filler, no bullshit. Straight 1:1 adaptation.

Back to DBS. If Goku and Vegeta use the Potara, no one would touch them. Quite literally.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-12 16:52:15
November 12 2017 16:51 GMT
#2787
On November 13 2017 00:39 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 16:50 Bourgeois wrote:
On November 12 2017 14:42 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Good news is that tomorrow we get Gintama and can forget about DBS. Although I would love Gintama to spoof DBS before it ends.


Or would be good news, if Gintama was actually any good. It's been garbage for a long time now, with the same jokes and cliches that are overused to death. It's kind of like Family Guy - the first season has you laughing in tears. Nowadays watching it is a chore and hardly even goes anywhere near making you crack a smile.

When is the last time you watched it? Because it's no where near what it used to be. They're winding down to the end of the series. The last season alone was some of the best written and animated anime of all time. No filler, no bullshit. Straight 1:1 adaptation.

Back to DBS. If Goku and Vegeta use the Potara, no one would touch them. Quite literally.

Kefla and jiren would because the plot demands it
I still wonder though, who is the last u4 fighter. We still havent seen him/her
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 12 2017 17:05 GMT
#2788
Na Vegito would wipe the floor with Kefla. They are evenish with Solo SSG Goku with Kaio Ken and the preview makes me think UI Goku is going to wreck them.
Never Knows Best.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
November 12 2017 17:34 GMT
#2789
On November 12 2017 21:53 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 13:32 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I thought the fight was good. Goku used the fight to push past his limits once again and he's back in UI. Now it looks like he'll reach SSJUI. It was definitely interesting to watch. Vegeta needs an episode to himself. As does Gohan. Forgot he learned the Demon Flash from Piccolo. Nice to see it again. Kefla is a fucking broken.

ya Kefla is broken lol but we've known for ages that two strong people fusioning, aka power+personality etc... can make a complete, much stronger individual. We've both shown that Kale has unlimited potential and that Caulifa is more or less, close to crazy potential too. Add the fact that Kale is essentially in love with Caulifa lol and you can see how OP the fusion will be. Does seems a bit silly that it's going up against Blue and strong enough to win but, Goku's stamina still hasn't recovered and both were already at SSJ2, potentially higher so maybe, just maybe the gap to Blue isn't as big as we think.

Either way, as someone said, I'd rather we saw more Vegeta or Gohan fighting. This fight has been going on for a while now, feels like it's a bit too long atm. Wouldn't be surprised to see Kefla go SSJ3 tbh given that Gotanks went SSJ3 and they've been really pushing up power levels this tourney.


The gap to blue should be big. Berus 1-hit-koed Goku in SJJ3 without him being able to even touch him. They fighted with SSG decently althought Beerus didn't use his full power all the fight. If you think about it it's kinda like the difference between blue and UI vs jiren. Getting wrecked-> being on par.

SSJ Kafla would make sense. Being anywhere close to Goku doesnt.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 12 2017 18:22 GMT
#2790
On November 13 2017 02:05 Slaughter wrote:
Na Vegito would wipe the floor with Kefla. They are evenish with Solo SSG Goku with Kaio Ken and the preview makes me think UI Goku is going to wreck them.

think you missed the plot part of his post DBS has been shown to nerf characters in order to make them "more equal" to others. Like, just this tourney, the whole Gohan being in trouble with foes who are as easy as freiza in DBZ or Vegeta having trouble with Rribrianne etc...

From a power perspective, ya, Vegito would wreck Kefla, no question. Would/should put up a great fight against Jiren. Really depends on just how much more powerful Jiren is compared to SSB.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
November 12 2017 18:25 GMT
#2791
On November 13 2017 03:22 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2017 02:05 Slaughter wrote:
Na Vegito would wipe the floor with Kefla. They are evenish with Solo SSG Goku with Kaio Ken and the preview makes me think UI Goku is going to wreck them.

think you missed the plot part of his post DBS has been shown to nerf characters in order to make them "more equal" to others. Like, just this tourney, the whole Gohan being in trouble with foes who are as easy as freiza in DBZ or Vegeta having trouble with Rribrianne etc...

From a power perspective, ya, Vegito would wreck Kefla, no question. Would/should put up a great fight against Jiren. Really depends on just how much more powerful Jiren is compared to SSB.

Bigfan got it.
Remember when ssb kamehameha did literally jackshit against lss kale?
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-12 18:57:51
November 12 2017 18:57 GMT
#2792
I think your confusing Goku's habit of holding back with actual power.

There is a reason Kefla prevented another fusion, they are broken and Goku and Vegeta fusion would play with Kefla.
Never Knows Best.
MoneyHypeMike
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada305 Posts
November 12 2017 19:47 GMT
#2793
Totally forgot about C-17 & C-18...lol
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-12 20:08:26
November 12 2017 19:52 GMT
#2794
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


:O
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 12 2017 20:09 GMT
#2795
^ that better not be some manga spoiler or else... Guys, don't forget to spoiler manga or any potential spoilers...
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 12 2017 20:09 GMT
#2796
On November 13 2017 03:25 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2017 03:22 BigFan wrote:
On November 13 2017 02:05 Slaughter wrote:
Na Vegito would wipe the floor with Kefla. They are evenish with Solo SSG Goku with Kaio Ken and the preview makes me think UI Goku is going to wreck them.

think you missed the plot part of his post DBS has been shown to nerf characters in order to make them "more equal" to others. Like, just this tourney, the whole Gohan being in trouble with foes who are as easy as freiza in DBZ or Vegeta having trouble with Rribrianne etc...

From a power perspective, ya, Vegito would wreck Kefla, no question. Would/should put up a great fight against Jiren. Really depends on just how much more powerful Jiren is compared to SSB.

Bigfan got it.
Remember when ssb kamehameha did literally jackshit against lss kale?

SSB kamehameha
didn't evaporate Krillin lol
They just make him adapt it to whoever is fighting
the one where he broke arms must've been over 1000x higher in power than those training ones etc.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 12 2017 20:10 GMT
#2797
Also who's willing to take bets on Ribrianne doing something huge/important?
Seems pretty clear she's a gag character Satan style they keep around to do something that actually matters
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45246 Posts
November 12 2017 20:13 GMT
#2798
On November 13 2017 04:52 TT1 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


:O


In before Krillin is seriously confused.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
November 12 2017 20:13 GMT
#2799
On November 13 2017 05:10 LemOn wrote:
Also who's willing to take bets on Ribrianne doing something huge/important?
Seems pretty clear she's a gag character Satan style they keep around to do something that actually matters

+ Show Spoiler +
episode 117 is u2 vs androids, u2 pounces on a now depleted goku, but 17 and 18 save him, in 118 u2 dissapears
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 12 2017 20:16 GMT
#2800
On November 13 2017 05:13 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2017 05:10 LemOn wrote:
Also who's willing to take bets on Ribrianne doing something huge/important?
Seems pretty clear she's a gag character Satan style they keep around to do something that actually matters

+ Show Spoiler +
episode 117 is u2 vs androids, u2 pounces on a now depleted goku, but 17 and 18 save him, in 118 u2 dissapears

+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah U2 is probably on the chopping block - and not a moment too soon. U6 or U4 look like they might be near death but as per those spoilers and the foreshadowing we've been seeing U2 is probably the safest choice. It always starts with their most significant characters being eliminated.
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