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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
November 19 2017 07:25 GMT
#2821
I liked this episode. I'ts nice to get a confirmation that what Whis said to Goku and Vegeta when he was training was in fact Ultra Instinct. It's also nice to see confirmation that Vegeta hasn't secretly achieved it.

Finally...Freeza is obviously planning something, and apparently he needs goku to be the most poweful he can be for his plan, I wonder what it could be...
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
November 19 2017 09:28 GMT
#2822
On November 19 2017 13:15 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 13:10 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 19 2017 12:18 LegalLord wrote:
It will always be the Goku show. You can alpha-bet on it.

So is U6 or U2 going to be next for the erasing? Both look eager to throw their lives away by fighting U7.

+ Show Spoiler +
u2 is erased in 2 weeks

+ Show Spoiler +
I saw that some universe is going away by ep 118; is there any special reason to think it's 2 and not 6? I mean they're both probably going to be near death after ep 117.

+ Show Spoiler +
Probably because next episode is focused on 2, would make sense for them to go out afterwards.


Also tfw Jiren actually has something like a personality in the manga
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-19 15:16:04
November 19 2017 15:13 GMT
#2823
On November 19 2017 16:25 [Phantom] wrote:
I liked this episode. I'ts nice to get a confirmation that what Whis said to Goku and Vegeta when he was training was in fact Ultra Instinct. It's also nice to see confirmation that Vegeta hasn't secretly achieved it.

Finally...Freeza is obviously planning something, and apparently he needs goku to be the most poweful he can be for his plan, I wonder what it could be...

i feel like freeza is planning for goku to beat the shit out of everyone and in the process become heavily wounded, after that i actually think he will elimate goku and friends so that he gets to be the one who makes the wish as no one else will be on the battle field.

Its kinda weird tho that its so focused on one fight, like frieza is literally doing nothing for quite a while, gohan and picolo are goofing around, 18 and 17 are doing some sibling bonding like no one is actually fighting atm....with the exception of vegeta vs toppo a super hype match and we see none of lol.
Everyone else is also jacking off to the fight, feels like they are writing the scenes much like how they write 1v1 tournament scenes. one person vs one person and cut to everyones faces for reactions or the occasional explanation.

The manga fight + Show Spoiler +
of the gods for the pre tournament battle was really well done, everyone was going at each other
. I wish the manga came out faster.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
November 19 2017 16:58 GMT
#2824
Nothing will ever be as cool as surfing a ki blast with a Kamehameha into point-blank blasting someone out of the tournament.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 19 2017 17:34 GMT
#2825
Pretty good fight at the end. I'm surprised that U6 is pretty much gone at this fight. U6 and U11 were the only universes with any hype to them. Not sure what they are going to do in the next few episodes.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 19 2017 17:37 GMT
#2826
Thin out the herd and set up the Goku and Jiren show?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6258 Posts
November 19 2017 18:01 GMT
#2827
Maybe we'll finaly get a vegeta fight?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 19 2017 18:11 GMT
#2828
Wouldn't be much of an arc without Vegeta getting his ass handed to him for some random reason.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 19 2017 18:29 GMT
#2829
Hoping we get a good Vegeta vs Toppo fight. I remember seeing somebody say that this arc ends in March. If Goku vs Jiren 2 starts in Feb, that's more than two months worth of episodes that they need to burn.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 19 2017 18:59 GMT
#2830
On November 20 2017 03:29 andrewlt wrote:
Hoping we get a good Vegeta vs Toppo fight. I remember seeing somebody say that this arc ends in March. If Goku vs Jiren 2 starts in Feb, that's more than two months worth of episodes that they need to burn.

U2 says hi lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
November 19 2017 19:05 GMT
#2831
Insane episode. Had tears in my eyes. Kefla vs UI Goku definitely among the if not the best fight in DBS. Also, if the U6 Namekians fuse with Piccolo, does that mean U6 isn't erased so long as Piccolo survives?
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
November 19 2017 19:06 GMT
#2832
On November 20 2017 03:59 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 03:29 andrewlt wrote:
Hoping we get a good Vegeta vs Toppo fight. I remember seeing somebody say that this arc ends in March. If Goku vs Jiren 2 starts in Feb, that's more than two months worth of episodes that they need to burn.

U2 says hi lol


2 months of 'Brianne... Brianne... Bribrianne !!' Is it Christmas already ?
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 19 2017 19:41 GMT
#2833
haha, sounds like it^

On November 20 2017 04:05 Mohdoo wrote:
Insane episode. Had tears in my eyes. Kefla vs UI Goku definitely among the if not the best fight in DBS. Also, if the U6 Namekians fuse with Piccolo, does that mean U6 isn't erased so long as Piccolo survives?

that would be an interesting idea, I'd like to see it happen because with Kefla out, U6 still 0 chance of surviving! Even U2 is stronger now haha
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 19 2017 20:33 GMT
#2834
On November 20 2017 04:06 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 03:59 BigFan wrote:
On November 20 2017 03:29 andrewlt wrote:
Hoping we get a good Vegeta vs Toppo fight. I remember seeing somebody say that this arc ends in March. If Goku vs Jiren 2 starts in Feb, that's more than two months worth of episodes that they need to burn.

U2 says hi lol


2 months of 'Brianne... Brianne... Bribrianne !!' Is it Christmas already ?


Please no. If the gods are merciful, it's 2 weeks at most per filler universe. Think we still have 2, 3 and 4 alive. Would rather fill it with Vegeta vs Toppo and Jiren eliminating the U7 extras until the final fight.
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
November 19 2017 21:12 GMT
#2835
Popular speculation is that since Goku is good at defensive UI, Vegeta may turn out to be good at offensive UI. Think it'd make a rather neat way of doing things.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-19 21:33:38
November 19 2017 21:23 GMT
#2836
+ Show Spoiler +
u2 dies in 2 weeks, the week after a u7 person is knocked out.


In regards to ui vegeta i think vegeta already has a limit breaker of some sort, so that may be where we see the defense offense parallel
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nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-20 00:15:39
November 20 2017 00:05 GMT
#2837
there's saiyan power, where if you followed dragon ball since Z, a saiyan recovering from a mortal wound adapts and gets massively buffed to a certain point.

this happened several times and even when goku was doing harsh gravity room training during the namek arc, and where vegeta tries to get krillin to kill him to have dende heal it up.

however, this is not what is happening in this tournament of power. this no longer occurs for most of the saiyan Z-fighters because they're far and beyond past saiyan limitations.
kefla is a mix between a gifted combat saiyan (caulifa, who goes from saiyan to SSJ, SSJ2 within less than a week) and kale who is broly's parallel. the legendary SSJ part is the only part of it that makes sense out of kefla being able to overpower super saiyan blue out of nowhere. and, keep in mind, they need to have done the fusion dance perfectly in the first place. the potara earrings seemed to have been a story afterthought as they handled that entire sequence with a quick flashback.

broly/bio broly were at SSJ3 power without the drawbacks that the form had on speed. lets say the fusion between an SSJ3 into an SSJ2 brought on by high compatibility between the two friends draws them to SSG/SSB level.
goku is fatigued while being closed in on by power levels, makes sense that he collapses in exhaustion and relies on the power of will and the ultra-instinct transformation. stands to reason that a freshly UI aware goku wipes the floor with them even when kefla is drawing from the legendary super saiyan side of things. that is in my opinion the only way to stretch that whole thing.

i didn't enjoy the fight because of this, together they are still just getting power from seemingly nowhere it's enough to displace the difference in combat experience and knowhow (controlling super saiyan forms, stamina, etc.).

i hope they handle the powerups in the rest of the arc with good care and pacing because one of the premises of the entire dragon ball universe is that hard arduous training gets you somewhere. it can be one of the many methods of breaking your shell/limitations. this is getting dispelled and going the magical route of getting absolutely free power in the case of kefla.

i'd just like a small nod and an explanation on how come that universes' saiyans no longer have tails?
maybe when planet sadala is on the table.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45092 Posts
November 20 2017 05:41 GMT
#2838
On November 20 2017 01:58 Rehio wrote:
Nothing will ever be as cool as surfing a ki blast with a Kamehameha into point-blank blasting someone out of the tournament.




Totally bad ass, got nerd chills.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12568 Posts
November 20 2017 07:00 GMT
#2839
this episode made me love kefla, damn that power level is off the chart.
Her going nuts reminded me of shin godzilla, just absolute destruction everywhere
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23491 Posts
November 20 2017 09:42 GMT
#2840
On November 20 2017 14:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 01:58 Rehio wrote:
Nothing will ever be as cool as surfing a ki blast with a Kamehameha into point-blank blasting someone out of the tournament.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcRtLg2IMtE

Totally bad ass, got nerd chills.


2:28 when he flips and blasts her in the face was cold af.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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