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Bourgeois
Profile Joined June 2017
81 Posts
October 09 2017 11:08 GMT
#2521
On October 09 2017 16:05 Dipshit wrote:
At this point I think Jiren is probably not going to be outdone as best warrior but he will be beaten by attrition. The clown man thought they could just take out Goku and demoralize their opposition; clearly that didn't happen nor would it have worked. Now that Jiren is on the move everyone is going to work to take him out, and between Hit, Vegeta, Freezer, and Goku, they might be able to wear him down after a while. The characters weakened so far have had breathing room to recover; Jiren will not if he continues to be the center of attention.

Toppo and Dipshit look like they would be good targets for your Gohans, Cauliflas, Kales, etc. Gohan vs Toppo might be a decent match; both are pretty dang strong but weaker than Blue. Dipshit had his time in the sun, now he's just a sidekick that will get beat by sidekicks.

Notice that Beerus looks significantly more worried than any of the actual U7 warriors. Freezer and Vegeta still seem to be taking things mostly relatively chill rather than showing any signs of worry. That suggests to me that there's some means that they can think of to take the generic buff fuck down.


Why the fuck do you keep calling him Dipshit? It's fucking annoying. Maybe you're the Dipshit here.

Don't see why everyone's thinking these episodes were good - Jiren is way too bland. No backstory. No reason for being super strong. No personality. Not scary like Frieza, not evil like Cell, not psychotic like Buu... Just some badly five year old designed look with no facial expressions and no signature moves that make him awesome. Mystic silent super strong guy just comes across as boring when the character design is not "cool".

User was temp banned for this post.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 09 2017 11:29 GMT
#2522
On October 09 2017 20:08 Bourgeois wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2017 16:05 Dipshit wrote:
At this point I think Jiren is probably not going to be outdone as best warrior but he will be beaten by attrition. The clown man thought they could just take out Goku and demoralize their opposition; clearly that didn't happen nor would it have worked. Now that Jiren is on the move everyone is going to work to take him out, and between Hit, Vegeta, Freezer, and Goku, they might be able to wear him down after a while. The characters weakened so far have had breathing room to recover; Jiren will not if he continues to be the center of attention.

Toppo and Dipshit look like they would be good targets for your Gohans, Cauliflas, Kales, etc. Gohan vs Toppo might be a decent match; both are pretty dang strong but weaker than Blue. Dipshit had his time in the sun, now he's just a sidekick that will get beat by sidekicks.

Notice that Beerus looks significantly more worried than any of the actual U7 warriors. Freezer and Vegeta still seem to be taking things mostly relatively chill rather than showing any signs of worry. That suggests to me that there's some means that they can think of to take the generic buff fuck down.


Why the fuck do you keep calling him Dipshit? It's fucking annoying. Maybe you're the Dipshit here.

Don't see why everyone's thinking these episodes were good - Jiren is way too bland. No backstory. No reason for being super strong. No personality. Not scary like Frieza, not evil like Cell, not psychotic like Buu... Just some badly five year old designed look with no facial expressions and no signature moves that make him awesome. Mystic silent super strong guy just comes across as boring when the character design is not "cool".

That's the whole point of Jiren (and most of those in this arc), he ISN'T evil. He just wants to survive.
These episodes were phenomenal.
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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 09 2017 11:53 GMT
#2523
I also have to give it up to Hit for best response to a question. "I'm working."

I like how he thinks.

I know a lot of people say Hit doesn't stand a chance, but he's likely had a lot more time to practice, and from way back in the U6 vs U7 tournament, he outlasted SSBx10. He was the clear victor in that fight, even though it was because Goku gave him the chance to grow to be able to win. I have to feel that Hit has grown since then and is likely to do well against Jiren, even if he doesn't have a chance to out right win, he has a chance to do some damage.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14900 Posts
October 09 2017 12:14 GMT
#2524
nice thing here is that hit won't have to hold back against jiren, unlike in the first tournament of power
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
October 09 2017 15:40 GMT
#2525
On October 09 2017 20:08 Bourgeois wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2017 16:05 Dipshit wrote:
At this point I think Jiren is probably not going to be outdone as best warrior but he will be beaten by attrition. The clown man thought they could just take out Goku and demoralize their opposition; clearly that didn't happen nor would it have worked. Now that Jiren is on the move everyone is going to work to take him out, and between Hit, Vegeta, Freezer, and Goku, they might be able to wear him down after a while. The characters weakened so far have had breathing room to recover; Jiren will not if he continues to be the center of attention.

Toppo and Dipshit look like they would be good targets for your Gohans, Cauliflas, Kales, etc. Gohan vs Toppo might be a decent match; both are pretty dang strong but weaker than Blue. Dipshit had his time in the sun, now he's just a sidekick that will get beat by sidekicks.

Notice that Beerus looks significantly more worried than any of the actual U7 warriors. Freezer and Vegeta still seem to be taking things mostly relatively chill rather than showing any signs of worry. That suggests to me that there's some means that they can think of to take the generic buff fuck down.


Why the fuck do you keep calling him Dipshit? It's fucking annoying. Maybe you're the Dipshit here.

Don't see why everyone's thinking these episodes were good - Jiren is way too bland. No backstory. No reason for being super strong. No personality. Not scary like Frieza, not evil like Cell, not psychotic like Buu... Just some badly five year old designed look with no facial expressions and no signature moves that make him awesome. Mystic silent super strong guy just comes across as boring when the character design is not "cool".


lol wtf. Are you really that big a fan of dyspo?
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
October 09 2017 16:07 GMT
#2526
On October 10 2017 00:40 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2017 20:08 Bourgeois wrote:
On October 09 2017 16:05 Dipshit wrote:
At this point I think Jiren is probably not going to be outdone as best warrior but he will be beaten by attrition. The clown man thought they could just take out Goku and demoralize their opposition; clearly that didn't happen nor would it have worked. Now that Jiren is on the move everyone is going to work to take him out, and between Hit, Vegeta, Freezer, and Goku, they might be able to wear him down after a while. The characters weakened so far have had breathing room to recover; Jiren will not if he continues to be the center of attention.

Toppo and Dipshit look like they would be good targets for your Gohans, Cauliflas, Kales, etc. Gohan vs Toppo might be a decent match; both are pretty dang strong but weaker than Blue. Dipshit had his time in the sun, now he's just a sidekick that will get beat by sidekicks.

Notice that Beerus looks significantly more worried than any of the actual U7 warriors. Freezer and Vegeta still seem to be taking things mostly relatively chill rather than showing any signs of worry. That suggests to me that there's some means that they can think of to take the generic buff fuck down.


Why the fuck do you keep calling him Dipshit? It's fucking annoying. Maybe you're the Dipshit here.

Don't see why everyone's thinking these episodes were good - Jiren is way too bland. No backstory. No reason for being super strong. No personality. Not scary like Frieza, not evil like Cell, not psychotic like Buu... Just some badly five year old designed look with no facial expressions and no signature moves that make him awesome. Mystic silent super strong guy just comes across as boring when the character design is not "cool".


lol wtf. Are you really that big a fan of dyspo?

Fuck you, Disco is the best most original character ever!

So, who wrote this episode? Did someone really write "Goku goes inside a Spirit Bomb and then gets super powers, when everyone else has been damaged.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 09 2017 16:54 GMT
#2527
Dyspo is close enough to dipshit. It's a speedster thing. Quicksilver and Flash have mostly been hotheaded dipshits too.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-09 17:08:39
October 09 2017 17:07 GMT
#2528
He's a pretty arrogant fuckhead, yeah. Not even in a lovable way like Flash either.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-10 17:52:17
October 09 2017 17:24 GMT
#2529
I think the way they handled the transformation worked well. It was the spirit bomb power (good)+ the SSJB power (SSJ is "bad" and SSB is "godly". plus the pressure of Jiren's push. All of this combined made the Spirit bomb implode and it combined good, evil and godlike power into a Godly being that balances the two. At least that's the way I interpret it.

Also, there was a moment where Goku didn't exist in this universe, maybe he went somewhere that he doesn't remember? It was hinted that more exmplanations would be given in the following episodes.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 09 2017 17:53 GMT
#2530
A++++++++ episode

"i'm working"

wow

too good. chills during the new transformation.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
October 09 2017 18:51 GMT
#2531
On October 09 2017 20:29 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2017 20:08 Bourgeois wrote:
On October 09 2017 16:05 Dipshit wrote:
At this point I think Jiren is probably not going to be outdone as best warrior but he will be beaten by attrition. The clown man thought they could just take out Goku and demoralize their opposition; clearly that didn't happen nor would it have worked. Now that Jiren is on the move everyone is going to work to take him out, and between Hit, Vegeta, Freezer, and Goku, they might be able to wear him down after a while. The characters weakened so far have had breathing room to recover; Jiren will not if he continues to be the center of attention.

Toppo and Dipshit look like they would be good targets for your Gohans, Cauliflas, Kales, etc. Gohan vs Toppo might be a decent match; both are pretty dang strong but weaker than Blue. Dipshit had his time in the sun, now he's just a sidekick that will get beat by sidekicks.

Notice that Beerus looks significantly more worried than any of the actual U7 warriors. Freezer and Vegeta still seem to be taking things mostly relatively chill rather than showing any signs of worry. That suggests to me that there's some means that they can think of to take the generic buff fuck down.


Why the fuck do you keep calling him Dipshit? It's fucking annoying. Maybe you're the Dipshit here.

Don't see why everyone's thinking these episodes were good - Jiren is way too bland. No backstory. No reason for being super strong. No personality. Not scary like Frieza, not evil like Cell, not psychotic like Buu... Just some badly five year old designed look with no facial expressions and no signature moves that make him awesome. Mystic silent super strong guy just comes across as boring when the character design is not "cool".

That's the whole point of Jiren (and most of those in this arc), he ISN'T evil. He just wants to survive.
These episodes were phenomenal.


I really like that instead of talking crap and doing gimmicky stuff, he is simply powerful. Awesome character.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-09 19:27:47
October 09 2017 19:27 GMT
#2532
Jiren having that scene where he's standing alone on a cliff admiring a beautiful sunset was really good too. Showing him taking a moment to appreciate what I assume to be one of his favorite sights as he mentally prepared himself to defend the universe. It gave me a "this is what I am fighting for" kinda feeling.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
October 10 2017 05:17 GMT
#2533
so freaking awesome.

with the new ED just dropping right after.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 10 2017 07:30 GMT
#2534
On October 10 2017 00:40 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2017 20:08 Bourgeois wrote:
On October 09 2017 16:05 Dipshit wrote:
At this point I think Jiren is probably not going to be outdone as best warrior but he will be beaten by attrition. The clown man thought they could just take out Goku and demoralize their opposition; clearly that didn't happen nor would it have worked. Now that Jiren is on the move everyone is going to work to take him out, and between Hit, Vegeta, Freezer, and Goku, they might be able to wear him down after a while. The characters weakened so far have had breathing room to recover; Jiren will not if he continues to be the center of attention.

Toppo and Dipshit look like they would be good targets for your Gohans, Cauliflas, Kales, etc. Gohan vs Toppo might be a decent match; both are pretty dang strong but weaker than Blue. Dipshit had his time in the sun, now he's just a sidekick that will get beat by sidekicks.

Notice that Beerus looks significantly more worried than any of the actual U7 warriors. Freezer and Vegeta still seem to be taking things mostly relatively chill rather than showing any signs of worry. That suggests to me that there's some means that they can think of to take the generic buff fuck down.


Why the fuck do you keep calling him Dipshit? It's fucking annoying. Maybe you're the Dipshit here.

Don't see why everyone's thinking these episodes were good - Jiren is way too bland. No backstory. No reason for being super strong. No personality. Not scary like Frieza, not evil like Cell, not psychotic like Buu... Just some badly five year old designed look with no facial expressions and no signature moves that make him awesome. Mystic silent super strong guy just comes across as boring when the character design is not "cool".


lol wtf. Are you really that big a fan of dyspo?

ROFL he also changed the OP's name to dipshit
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 10 2017 11:22 GMT
#2535
On October 10 2017 02:24 [Phantom] wrote:
I think th way they hablded the transformation worked well. It was the spirit bomb power (good)+ the SSJB power (SSJ is "bad" and SSB is "godly". plus the pressure of Jiren's push. All of this combined made the Spirit bomb implode and it combined good, evil and godlike power into a Godly being that balances the two. At least that's the way I interpret it.

Also, there was a moment where Goku didn't exist in this universe, maybe he went somewhere that he doesn't remember? It was hinted that more exmplanations would be given in the following episodes.


I am not sure if they will explain it, but I feel like it was something similar to Vegeta in the Hyperbolic time chamber/Demon Seal bottle (and then forcing his way out). I remember in the Zamasu arc when Zamasu got mafuba'd that Goku black was commenting his energy going in and out. It might be something similar and hopefully is explained a little more in the upcoming episodes.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
October 10 2017 13:51 GMT
#2536
I still think Jiren is gonna get jobbed. We're so far from the end of the tournament time.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 10 2017 18:43 GMT
#2537
I'd like Jiren to be jobbed. Have someone get off a few dirty potshots and then he won't be able to use his powerz. Then U11 dies and we can have Beerus vs Champa party again.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-10 19:46:11
October 10 2017 19:45 GMT
#2538
I think at this point it's way more likely they're gonna stall for a dozen episodes until we get an Ultra Instinct Goku vs Jiren rematch near the end of the ToP than that they introduce anyone new who could actually eliminate Jiren.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 10 2017 21:41 GMT
#2539
On October 11 2017 04:45 Elentos wrote:
I think at this point it's way more likely they're gonna stall for a dozen episodes until we get an Ultra Instinct Goku vs Jiren rematch near the end of the ToP than that they introduce anyone new who could actually eliminate Jiren.

150% that is what happens
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
October 10 2017 22:21 GMT
#2540
Super has thrown out some pretty freaking weird and unexpected curve balls though. Maybe it's just Zamasu that has given me serious trust issues when it comes to DBS, but I just don't think that's the end fight. It doesn't feel right to me.
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