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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 24 2017 05:38 GMT
#2421
Yea the yard rat was from U2. Gohan was just being briefly silly till freezer came in for the kill steal.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 24 2017 07:11 GMT
#2422
From Freeza's mocking it seems like Gohan was guilty of doing what his dad does and fucking around. Otherwise he probably could have taken the U2 guy,
Never Knows Best.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
September 24 2017 08:42 GMT
#2423
Gohan was fucking around. Freeza says as much when he told him he should've just gone SS.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
September 24 2017 11:49 GMT
#2424
Both Gohan and Goku are toying too much. Just power up and defeat your damn opponent already.
As expected Frieza didn't actually backstab U7. They have the strongest fighters and Frieza knows it.
His best chance at actually coming out alive (and getting rezzed) are with U7. Only if that changes might he consider a backstab though I do think U7 will have his preference if not purely due Goku and Vegeta being in it.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9066 Posts
September 24 2017 13:40 GMT
#2425
As Goku and Gohan and Vegeta continually tell people, it drains them to use those transformations. That's why they try to fight in base mode for as long as possible. Plus, Gohan no longer wants to use SS to transform. He's going the Mystic route. So if you wanna see golden hair Gohan, you'll have to wait.

I think it would be nice if a few more saiyans went different routes to power. Gohan and Mystic. Goku and God. Vegeta and .... Would give variety imo.

Freeza wasn't going to touch U7 but I thought he would rough up some people. I think Freeza knocks out Ribrianne and then scolds Goku for fucking around like he did with Gohan. There's what...28 minutes left?
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-24 14:18:02
September 24 2017 14:08 GMT
#2426
On September 24 2017 22:40 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
As Goku and Gohan and Vegeta continually tell people, it drains them to use those transformations. That's why they try to fight in base mode for as long as possible. Plus, Gohan no longer wants to use SS to transform. He's going the Mystic route. So if you wanna see golden hair Gohan, you'll have to wait.

I think it would be nice if a few more saiyans went different routes to power. Gohan and Mystic. Goku and God. Vegeta and .... Would give variety imo.

Freeza wasn't going to touch U7 but I thought he would rough up some people. I think Freeza knocks out Ribrianne and then scolds Goku for fucking around like he did with Gohan. There's what...28 minutes left?

They take damage while in base mode...enough damage where sometimes they struggle to even get a hit in or get up...how is that conserving energy when you would just power up to blue and punch someone straight out of the arena.

+ Show Spoiler +
i wonder how the hell they are gonna do this in the manga, where goku has complete control over the leaking god-ki and i assume vegeta gets it by the tournament as well...i totally expect them to just blue from the getgo and kick some ass...but that probably wont happen
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9066 Posts
September 24 2017 14:43 GMT
#2427
On September 24 2017 23:08 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2017 22:40 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
As Goku and Gohan and Vegeta continually tell people, it drains them to use those transformations. That's why they try to fight in base mode for as long as possible. Plus, Gohan no longer wants to use SS to transform. He's going the Mystic route. So if you wanna see golden hair Gohan, you'll have to wait.

I think it would be nice if a few more saiyans went different routes to power. Gohan and Mystic. Goku and God. Vegeta and .... Would give variety imo.

Freeza wasn't going to touch U7 but I thought he would rough up some people. I think Freeza knocks out Ribrianne and then scolds Goku for fucking around like he did with Gohan. There's what...28 minutes left?

They take damage while in base mode...enough damage where sometimes they struggle to even get a hit in or get up...how is that conserving energy when you would just power up to blue and punch someone straight out of the arena.

+ Show Spoiler +
i wonder how the hell they are gonna do this in the manga, where goku has complete control over the leaking god-ki and i assume vegeta gets it by the tournament as well...i totally expect them to just blue from the getgo and kick some ass...but that probably wont happen

As in they run out of stamina. They said it in the anime, so don't get mad at me for repeating it. I figure if they power up real quick, take care of business and go back to base, they can save some energy. But if you get into a protracted fight, then it works against you. Without senzu beans, lost stamina is lost stamina.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-24 15:42:50
September 24 2017 15:42 GMT
#2428
I can't believe a spirit bomb is about to bust into the story somehow. Who is giving this thing power? Should not be allowed to gather energy from your universe. Does he ask for it from his allies, who are all mid fight or at very least can't sit still for minutes at a time? I just don't get it. Guess I'll find out in 2 weeks!

ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9066 Posts
September 24 2017 15:51 GMT
#2429
On September 25 2017 00:42 Mohdoo wrote:
I can't believe a spirit bomb is about to bust into the story somehow. Who is giving this thing power? Should not be allowed to gather energy from your universe. Does he ask for it from his allies, who are all mid fight or at very least can't sit still for minutes at a time? I just don't get it. Guess I'll find out in 2 weeks!


There are other people he could draw energy from, namely Zeno, his guards, the angels, the GoDs, Kais, and the people sitting on the sidelines.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 24 2017 15:52 GMT
#2430
I wonder if, rather than failing, it will have a freeza-caliber effect. Knocking the chill right out of Jiren and forcing him to take it all at his most srsface mode.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
September 24 2017 15:59 GMT
#2431
You can see in the background Goku is making the Spirit Bomb as SSB + Kaioken. That's a new one.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
September 25 2017 05:36 GMT
#2432
Well, it's how Goku beat Hit back in the U6/U7 fight. He got rekt after using that combination though. As for the spirit bomb... yeah, I bet they have some kind of explanation ready and waiting.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-25 05:58:47
September 25 2017 05:56 GMT
#2433
Either Goku unlocks a new extremely powerful form and beats Jiren solo, or the A-team clobbers him with a team effort. In the context set up by both the tournament and the character development of Toppo and Belmod, there is no chance of a sportsmanlike surrender. One lives and one dies. Maybe Zeno might spare a paired combination of universes but that is the only possibility other than one survivor that the context of the tournament allows without shitty copout writing.

In that light: either Goku unlocks the new form to stand up to Jiren or Vegeta bails him out. Probably both for now.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9066 Posts
September 25 2017 06:08 GMT
#2434
On September 25 2017 14:56 LegalLord wrote:
Either Goku unlocks a new extremely powerful form and beats Jiren solo, or the A-team clobbers him with a team effort. In the context set up by both the tournament and the character development of Toppo and Belmod, there is no chance of a sportsmanlike surrender. One lives and one dies. Maybe Zeno might spare a paired combination of universes but that is the only possibility other than one survivor that the context of the tournament allows without shitty copout writing.

In that light: either Goku unlocks the new form to stand up to Jiren or Vegeta bails him out. Probably both for now.

I'm not sure what spoiler-verse is saying about this, but I think Vegeta bails Goku out. He reached the infused SSB mode in the anime before Goku, so I'm sure he's gone above that somehow. Whether or not it's enough to beat Jiren, that remains to be seen.

I don't think Zeno spares any universes. He seems to stick to what he says and few can assuade him of that. Grand Priest probably saves a couple and petitions to hold another similar tournament in the future with the remaining universes without threat of elimination. Frieza and Vegeta take out Toppo and then go to work on those hiding fighters.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 25 2017 06:20 GMT
#2435
U6/7 obviously have sympathies, and it does seem that the same holds for U2/11. 3 and 4 seem to be quite poorly positioned to continue to survive, so if it turned into a 20v20 by the end that might not be so surprising. That much, at least, seems well within the purview of Zeno's capriciousness.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 25 2017 06:20 GMT
#2436
Am I the only one that thought this episode was ok? Only ok, not great. Gohan was severely nerfed. He should've easily be able to handle that Yardrat instead he had to get bailed out :/
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 25 2017 06:21 GMT
#2437
It was trashy-awesome. Which is what DBZ as a whole was. You don't watch DBZ/S and say "what clever and deep writing" you watch and say "that was some really cool shit." And that episode definitely had the latter.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 25 2017 06:23 GMT
#2438
On September 25 2017 15:21 LegalLord wrote:
It was trashy-awesome. Which is what DBZ as a whole was. You don't watch DBZ/S and say "what clever and deep writing" you watch and say "that was some really cool shit." And that episode definitely had the latter.

Aside from the freiza beating up the yardrat and then deciding to backstab frost, the episode was pretty terrible overall and then they even had that ribrianne fighting Goku again leading to more zzzzzzzzzz
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 25 2017 06:31 GMT
#2439
Ribrianne feels like filler for the episode. She is basically fodder tier vs Goku but its something for him to dick around with to kill a couple mins in the episode to fill out the whole Freeza/Frost/Gohan thing.
Never Knows Best.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9066 Posts
September 25 2017 06:32 GMT
#2440
The Ribrianne fight is just...atrocious. No reason for her to be hanging around spouting love nonsense. Even in his base, Goku should just slap her like Chi Chi and be done with it. He's hoping to co-opt some moves I bet.
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