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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 04 2017 20:27 GMT
#2321
U7 is the Earth all-star team. Not really a numbers game.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
September 04 2017 20:51 GMT
#2322
Ok, the size of the universe was a weak argument, but doesn't U7 being a earth allstars mean the universe average is a worthless metric?
Bora Pain minha porra!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
September 04 2017 20:55 GMT
#2323
Well earth/namek/vegeta all stars if you want to get technical. Plus whatever one freeza is from.
Never Knows Best.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 04 2017 20:57 GMT
#2324
On September 05 2017 05:51 Sbrubbles wrote:
Ok, the size of the universe was a weak argument, but doesn't U7 being a earth allstars mean the universe average is a worthless metric?

That's my argument at any rate.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
September 04 2017 21:27 GMT
#2325
Actually, upon second thought, size of the universe can indeed be an explanation, under the assumption that each planet has its own distribution of potential power that is drawn separately. A bigger universe means a higher probability of containing a "saiyan" race (or equivalent), even with a shitty average across planets.
Bora Pain minha porra!
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 04 2017 21:30 GMT
#2326
U7 has freezer race as well, and Namekians, and scientists that can build powerful artificial humans. So it can't just be random chance.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
September 04 2017 22:18 GMT
#2327
Yea but are there a lot of their species?
Never Knows Best.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 04 2017 22:58 GMT
#2328
Saiyans: used to be, got planetary extinction'd.
Namekians: used to be, all of the ones on Namek died except for Grand Elder Guru, who gave birth to the rest. Piccolo and Kami were descendant from the Nameless Namekian who was left on Earth by his parents who never came back and almost certainly died.
Freezer race people: who the fuck knows?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
September 05 2017 15:38 GMT
#2329
You could also chalk up the differences in power to be a result of not only "starting conditions" (what kind of races naturally occur), but also dynamics between the starting races. Conflict naturally gives rise to power increase through additional focus being put on survival. Compare that to a universe that demonstrably obsessed with beauty and glamor.

There is perhaps also an argument to be made that an effective GoD allows for weaker civilizations to exist without any big concern. If a normal GoD would limit Freeza, preventing him from being a tyrant, I wonder if Goku and Vegeta would have ever needed to become as powerful as they are.
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
September 05 2017 15:44 GMT
#2330
Bunch of other races that never really got looked into

Zarbon race
Dodoria race
Babidi race
Captain Ginyu race
Jayce race
etc.....
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 15:50:28
September 05 2017 15:49 GMT
#2331
All mutants with exceptional fighting ability for their race. Freezers, Nameks, and Saiyans are all warriors of exceptional fighting ability.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 05 2017 15:51 GMT
#2332
On September 06 2017 00:38 Mohdoo wrote:
There is perhaps also an argument to be made that an effective GoD allows for weaker civilizations to exist without any big concern. If a normal GoD would limit Freeza, preventing him from being a tyrant, I wonder if Goku and Vegeta would have ever needed to become as powerful as they are.

That's what fucks up U9. Sidra hakais them too often.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
September 05 2017 17:48 GMT
#2333
On September 06 2017 00:49 LegalLord wrote:
All mutants with exceptional fighting ability for their race. Freezers, Nameks, and Saiyans are all warriors of exceptional fighting ability.

I thought Freeza and King Cold were noted to be truly exceptional for their race.
On September 06 2017 00:51 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2017 00:38 Mohdoo wrote:
There is perhaps also an argument to be made that an effective GoD allows for weaker civilizations to exist without any big concern. If a normal GoD would limit Freeza, preventing him from being a tyrant, I wonder if Goku and Vegeta would have ever needed to become as powerful as they are.

That's what fucks up U9. Sidra hakais them too often.

His official profile actually states the exact opposite - that he's indecisive and almost never destroys anything. Makes that scene where he just eradicates a civilization seem kinda weird.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 17:54:30
September 05 2017 17:53 GMT
#2334
Dunno where I heard it but wherever I did, he official line was that Sidra kills whoever the Kaioshin tells him to. It puts everything else into a proper context.

Freeza and Cold are probably exceptional, but then so are Piccolo, Goku, and Vegeta. We semi-have Chilled as well. They are all warriors from species of far above average battle ability.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
September 05 2017 19:25 GMT
#2335
Meanwhile Beerus helped tank U7 mortal level by ordering Freeza to destroy planet Vegeta.
Never Knows Best.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 05 2017 19:31 GMT
#2336
Buu did way more tho.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
September 05 2017 20:42 GMT
#2337
On September 06 2017 04:31 LegalLord wrote:
Buu did way more tho.

True. Which is why Beerus probably should have destroyed him.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
September 05 2017 21:14 GMT
#2338
Buu almost even made the U7 kais extinct
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 05 2017 21:20 GMT
#2339
Possible anime spoilers.
+ Show Spoiler +
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 05 2017 21:48 GMT
#2340
I always wished that we got a ton more information on Buu. I would've loved to see a I dunno, 50 episode anime or maybe 2 cour showing Buu from his first day till the day he got sealed. The Kai battles etc... in much more details. Something better than the small bits we got in the Buu arc back in dbz.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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