EPT[TV] Better Call Saul - Page 11
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16814 Posts
The shots when the arms dealer sells the rifle to Mike and it just goes to a total view of the area.... Magnificent. The sniper view. The tension. The god damn rivalry. Jimmy refusing to commit Chuck. Chuck understanding that he can manipulate him. The full fucking circle from the last season finale. Lord, this is too good. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9070 Posts
I can't remember watching any show like this where you are hearing two parties argue and while you initially side with the main character (as you have his perspective), you kinda realize that both sides have reasonable arguments for behaving the way they do. It was like watching a political debate as a neutral and feeling like both of them made their points, and while I wanted to root for the main character, I wasn't really sure who was "right". And it was also interesting as we at the end of S1 sided with Jimmy, but as we began to understood some of the history, the way Chuck acted started to make more and more sense. Relative to Breaking Bad, we all knew that Walter White was "Bad" pretty quickly, but what was unique about that show was that the transformation felt "realistic". We didn't really feel like any of his life choices didn't make sense given what we knew about him as a character. But in Better Call Saul, we actually don't know who the good or bad guy is; it's something thats open for discussion. Personally I am siding more with Chuck. I think he knew what Jimmy was and just didn't have the guts to tell him he couldn't work at the law firm since it would ruin his relationship with the brother. Throughout S1 our perspective was that Jimmy was this hardworking poor guy so we emphasized with him. But I think that throughout S2 it became clear that he never fitted into the law firm, and thus Chuck's decision in not giving him the job was correct. | ||
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Westy
England808 Posts
First episode was fantastic. Any ideas what Chuck will do? | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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CorsairHero
Canada9470 Posts
Nice to see Gus Fring back and screw Chuck. Jimmy likes his brother way too much. | ||
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Westy
England808 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9070 Posts
Somewhat comparable to Walter White's "I am doing it for the family"... I hope the series will end with Jimmy admitting that he isn't acting just to get accept from his brother, but rather because he enjoys shortcuts - comparable to Walter White admitting he did it for himself (and thus not the family). | ||
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Fprime
Canada64 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I get the feeling that Ernesto is going to play a key role in the unravelling of Chuck's tape. I also suspect that Saul's/Gene's collapse in the season intro is due to stress. I predicted long ago that the conclusion to BCS would take place in the flash-forwards to the post-BB era. Specifically, I think Kim is going to find him and save him from his misery. Also, Mike is such a baddass. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
mike's story is just too good | ||
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Acrofales
Spain16226 Posts
On April 18 2017 23:49 Hider wrote: Jimmy is an incredible hypocrite and noone seems to realize it. What a great show as it deceives the naive viewer into thinking the main character is the "good guy" who just wants his brothers accept. Somewhat comparable to Walter White's "I am doing it for the family"... I hope the series will end with Jimmy admitting that he isn't acting just to get accept from his brother, but rather because he enjoys shortcuts - comparable to Walter White admitting he did it for himself (and thus not the family). I don't think that's a good characterization of Jimmy at all. While it could definitely go that way (and he clearly enjoys it, or he wouldn't show Kim the art of conning people just for the thrill of it), it's more complex than that. I feel the show is making a point of Jimmy not following the letter of the law (at all), but his heart is mostly in the right place, whereas Chuck holds the letter of the law on a pedestal, but is a callous asshole... meanwhile Mike is righteous, but clearly on the wrong side of the law. The show is more about making a point about law and how we interpret it than about the characters themselves. Although the characters themselves are also excellent in their own right. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
I'm pretty sure the doctor Mike bought the drugs from this episode, at the Mexican clinic, is the same doctor that Gus uses in Breaking Bad to cure himself after he poisons everyone at the Mexican cartel house Great season so far. Definitely BB quality. Also, fuck Chuck. Such an upstanding lawyer, but not so upstanding a brother, especially for someone who has been so demanding and required so much care. To me, the Sandpiper Retirement case said it all. Jimmy found an entire class-action lawsuit that every lawyer in ABQ failed to see. And why does Chuck sabotage Jimmy from trying it? Because...? On April 18 2017 23:49 Hider wrote: Jimmy is an incredible hypocrite and noone seems to realize it. What a great show as it deceives the naive viewer into thinking the main character is the "good guy" who just wants his brothers accept. Somewhat comparable to Walter White's "I am doing it for the family"... I hope the series will end with Jimmy admitting that he isn't acting just to get accept from his brother, but rather because he enjoys shortcuts - comparable to Walter White admitting he did it for himself (and thus not the family). Maybe we're seeing Jimmy's descent into criminality. But Chuck's motives were made apparent very early in the show. And they're even more similar to Walter White's motives. They're both highly motivated by resentment of other people's successes and qualities. In one Season 2 episode, they do a flashback to Chuck's marriage, with Jimmy coming over for dinner. And it's very clear that Chuck simply resents Jimmy. It's where the show's writers attempt to explain Chuck's jealousy. Jimmy is the charmer, the guy with the heart. So Chuck can't abide Jimmy also being a successful lawyer. Jimmy's shortcuts and faults are simply targets that Chuck was set on looking for. He very, very obviously doesn't want Jimmy to be a success. It's not in his inner-narrative. And that's why Jimmy's foretelling of Chuck's future this episode is almost certainly accurate. "There's my ride." | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
I kinda missed Chuck's log book. Was there some clue in there as to why he relapsed so hard? Stress seemed to be a trigger for his illness, perhaps it got to be too much after he lost his firm? | ||
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CrymeaTerran
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Fprime
Canada64 Posts
On June 26 2017 09:56 Tachion wrote: So that was uh...that was something. I kinda missed Chuck's log book. Was there some clue in there as to why he relapsed so hard? Stress seemed to be a trigger for his illness, perhaps it got to be too much after he lost his firm? Despite appearance to the contrary, I believe Chuck suffered from very low self-esteem. In his youth, he watched Jimmy surpass him in all social challenges. We know he was jealous of Jimmy's charm and affability with people. The only thing Chuck ever had over him was his professional life. Then Jimmy became a lawyer as well. Chuck wanted to see him fail but Jimmy persevered. Bit by bit, Chuck lost everything that was holding him together. Jimmy destroyed his credibility within the legal community by exposing the psychological nature of his EM sensitivity. And then the final straw was Hamlin dropping him. Hamlin was always Chuck's most loyal supporter, and without him Chuck was truly alone in the world. He had nothing left by the last episode. Why did Chuck burn his bridge with Hamlin? To save face. Chuck's self-esteem was fragile to begin with, and it took a nosedive after Jimmy's trial. When Hamlin tacitly told Chuck that he wasn't worth keeping on staff, Chuck's fragile ego defended itself by suing HHM. Chuck won, but it cost him his last friend in the world. He was a pitiable man, and an excellently fleshed-out character. | ||
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
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CorsairHero
Canada9470 Posts
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
All sorts of speculation. Sure seems like Nacho is going to bite it too. | ||
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Fazers
732 Posts
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Hollow
Canada2173 Posts
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