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Luthier
Profile Joined June 2013
62 Posts
September 08 2013 02:15 GMT
#641
The main character is a fucking retard. Several chapters ago, the guys said to him if he goes quietly with them they won't send anymore attacks to the city, yet he chooses to stay - selfish prick who doesn't have any consideration for other peoples' lives. Furthermore, he would gain a lot more information if he was less of a pussy and went to that town they wanted to take him to. He could rise up in the ranks there and eventually overthrow it even if it was a shit place. However, he simply lacks balls and any sense of leadership potential and keeps letting his hot ass sister save his ass all the time when she could be happily married and having hot, steamy sex daily with a real man if not for him needing her to baby him all the time.
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
September 08 2013 02:21 GMT
#642
Well there is a point where you only piss people off with the story you´re telling. The anime reached this point where i´m just thinking another attemp of japanese story writers to deliver a epic story. I´m not so into the "bad ending" they like to do with their storys. I´m simply minded and i think that works for most folks. 22 episodes where i can say max 5 are good the rest is trash. It´s sad because i raised my hope up for this one.
invisible tetris level master
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
September 08 2013 03:01 GMT
#643
On September 06 2013 23:27 Kishin2 wrote:
So I watched all the episodes in a short period of time and no longer care about getting spoiled. The creator seems really fond of building up moments of hope and optimism... for the sole purpose of crushing it moments later. (NSFW gifs)

A few questions.
Is there any evidence to support Eren got his powers from his father's injection? Based on the anime, the only reason that's believed is because Eren thinks so. And since Eren is always wrong, that can't be it. It would be too easy.

Although Eren is always wrong, it appears Armin is always correct, up to episode 21 in the anime at least. Has Armin ever been wrong?



There's no direct evidence that the injection is what gave Eren his powers. But if it's not the case, it would be a huge red herring. I forget since I haven't re-read the manga in a while but I believe that his father was directly involved with the wall cult or something like that so he is connected with the titans somehow.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 08 2013 03:53 GMT
#644
On September 08 2013 12:01 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 23:27 Kishin2 wrote:
So I watched all the episodes in a short period of time and no longer care about getting spoiled. The creator seems really fond of building up moments of hope and optimism... for the sole purpose of crushing it moments later. (NSFW gifs)

A few questions.
Is there any evidence to support Eren got his powers from his father's injection? Based on the anime, the only reason that's believed is because Eren thinks so. And since Eren is always wrong, that can't be it. It would be too easy.

Although Eren is always wrong, it appears Armin is always correct, up to episode 21 in the anime at least. Has Armin ever been wrong?



There's no direct evidence that the injection is what gave Eren his powers. But if it's not the case, it would be a huge red herring. I forget since I haven't re-read the manga in a while but I believe that his father was directly involved with the wall cult or something like that so he is connected with the titans somehow.

wasnt the injection jsut roofies so hed forget all the stuff his dad was telling him till later?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 08 2013 07:18 GMT
#645
Caught up on the episodes...
God damn, they are so hard to watch
+ Show Spoiler +
That female titan holy shit.. does it get spoiled who she is in the mangas? I have a theory and I don't care if I get spoilered
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
September 08 2013 07:22 GMT
#646
On September 08 2013 16:18 Z-BosoN wrote:
Caught up on the episodes...
God damn, they are so hard to watch
+ Show Spoiler +
That female titan holy shit.. does it get spoiled who she is in the mangas? I have a theory and I don't care if I get spoilered


Yup.

You'll actually find out who she is in the next episode of the anime. It's actually pretty easy to guess.
PM me if you want to know who. Although I suppose I can just post it here in the thread anyways.
靈魂交響曲
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 07:23:45
September 08 2013 07:23 GMT
#647
On September 08 2013 16:18 Z-BosoN wrote:
Caught up on the episodes...
God damn, they are so hard to watch
+ Show Spoiler +
That female titan holy shit.. does it get spoiled who she is in the mangas? I have a theory and I don't care if I get spoilered

It does, but I can't figure out if youre asking for a spoiler
In the woods, there lurks..
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2279 Posts
September 08 2013 10:11 GMT
#648
On September 08 2013 12:01 Emporio wrote:
There's no direct evidence that the injection is what gave Eren his powers. But if it's not the case, it would be a huge red herring.


A common hypothesis is that the injection isn't about giving powers, but about controling the powers.
Kyrillion
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 10:12:31
September 08 2013 10:12 GMT
#649
+ Show Spoiler +
She's a nasty, never intimidated enemy.
If you seek well, you shall find.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18413 Posts
September 08 2013 10:15 GMT
#650
On September 08 2013 16:18 Z-BosoN wrote:
Caught up on the episodes...
God damn, they are so hard to watch
+ Show Spoiler +
That female titan holy shit.. does it get spoiled who she is in the mangas? I have a theory and I don't care if I get spoilered


Yeah it's actually pretty easy to guess.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 17:20:11
September 08 2013 13:08 GMT
#651
What's your opinion on Annie being cristalyzed?

Feels like shitty writing to me like the author doesn't want to kill the character nor have her reveal information to advance the plot so he just puts Annie inside an indestructible crystal until he wants to bring her back.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 13:48:17
September 08 2013 13:47 GMT
#652
On September 08 2013 11:21 Nachtwind wrote:
Well there is a point where you only piss people off with the story you´re telling. The anime reached this point where i´m just thinking another attemp of japanese story writers to deliver a epic story. I´m not so into the "bad ending" they like to do with their storys. I´m simply minded and i think that works for most folks. 22 episodes where i can say max 5 are good the rest is trash. It´s sad because i raised my hope up for this one.


Problem with these stories for me is always the protagonist. Japanese writers lean towards these shitty emotional/useless protagonists who make stupid decision after stupid decision.

We need more Spike Spiegels, Alucards and Guts out there. Hell even Lelouch is a rarity.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 14:02:40
September 08 2013 14:02 GMT
#653
On September 08 2013 22:47 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 11:21 Nachtwind wrote:
Well there is a point where you only piss people off with the story you´re telling. The anime reached this point where i´m just thinking another attemp of japanese story writers to deliver a epic story. I´m not so into the "bad ending" they like to do with their storys. I´m simply minded and i think that works for most folks. 22 episodes where i can say max 5 are good the rest is trash. It´s sad because i raised my hope up for this one.


Problem with these stories for me is always the protagonist. Japanese writers lean towards these shitty emotional/useless protagonists who make stupid decision after stupid decision.

We need more Spike Spiegels, Alucards and Guts out there. Hell even Lelouch is a rarity.

Implying Spike didn't make emotional and stupid decisions
+ Show Spoiler +
Lets fuck my best friend's girlfriend. Lets suicide
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 14:36:01
September 08 2013 14:34 GMT
#654
On September 08 2013 23:02 Spaiku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 22:47 On_Slaught wrote:
On September 08 2013 11:21 Nachtwind wrote:
Well there is a point where you only piss people off with the story you´re telling. The anime reached this point where i´m just thinking another attemp of japanese story writers to deliver a epic story. I´m not so into the "bad ending" they like to do with their storys. I´m simply minded and i think that works for most folks. 22 episodes where i can say max 5 are good the rest is trash. It´s sad because i raised my hope up for this one.


Problem with these stories for me is always the protagonist. Japanese writers lean towards these shitty emotional/useless protagonists who make stupid decision after stupid decision.

We need more Spike Spiegels, Alucards and Guts out there. Hell even Lelouch is a rarity.

Implying Spike didn't make emotional and stupid decisions
+ Show Spoiler +
Lets fuck my best friend's girlfriend. Lets suicide


Fair enough. But he was competent at least. And even then at least he was somewhat 'manly' about it
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 08 2013 16:57 GMT
#655
On September 08 2013 22:08 Spaiku wrote:
What's your opinion on Annie being cristalyzed?

Feels like shitty writing to me like the autor doesn't want to kill the character nor have her reveal information to advance the plot so he just puts Annie inside an indestructible crystal until he wants to bring her back.

ya seems pretty stupid imo
Luthier
Profile Joined June 2013
62 Posts
September 08 2013 21:19 GMT
#656
On September 08 2013 16:18 Z-BosoN wrote:
Caught up on the episodes...
God damn, they are so hard to watch
+ Show Spoiler +
That female titan holy shit.. does it get spoiled who she is in the mangas? I have a theory and I don't care if I get spoilered


Yeah, it's pretty easy to guess and you probably got the theory right. Basically after Eren's mum got killed by the Titan they took her remains and made her into the female Titan. Pretty shoddy writing if you ask me but you'll get the reasoning behind it in the later episodes because they do manage to explain it in a rational way. I guess the main thing you have to keep asking yourself is - why do the Titans eat the humans when they don't need to? And there you'll have your answer.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11519 Posts
September 08 2013 21:34 GMT
#657
On September 08 2013 11:00 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 10:36 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 08 2013 08:02 killa_robot wrote:
Why would they build houses with the 3d manoeuvre in mind? The thing was only proven to be useful in the last few years, so the buildings far predate them.

Also I'm guessing Erin and Mikasa are going to be so scared they can't do anything. Revitalize that fear within them that up until now was largely rage.

According to this wiki 3d movement was invented during the fall of man by this guy, at least if I am reading it correctly.


Yes, but it was only proven USEFUL in the last few years. Before that every time they attack titans they lost horribly, so no one took it seriously. Don't you remember the opening chapters? Where they rode in the town, said they lost completely and there was no hope, and that everyone thought the exploration team was pointless?

They had the technology, they just didn't know the weakness of the titans.


Still, that town layout is rather stupid especially considering that the whole point of those border towns is to be a bait for titans. Why don't they make them easy for humans and hard for titans to navigate? Not even talking about 3d gear. Just build a lot of escape ways towards the inner wall that are ~1m high. Humans can get through, titans can't. Have basements with small entrances as bunkers. Escape tunnels in a size that lets humans pass, but not titans. Alleyways which are ~60-80 cm broad in between houses. Of course you can't have every road like that, or it is practically impossible to do anything in that city. But you can have some. And of course titans will break that shit down over time, but that is exactly that. Time. You give your population more time to escape to safety by making them able to take escape ways through which titans can't follow without making a huge hole.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 21:59:07
September 08 2013 21:55 GMT
#658
On September 08 2013 11:15 Luthier wrote:
The main character is a fucking retard. Several chapters ago, the guys said to him if he goes quietly with them they won't send anymore attacks to the city, yet he chooses to stay - selfish prick who doesn't have any consideration for other peoples' lives. Furthermore, he would gain a lot more information if he was less of a pussy and went to that town they wanted to take him to. He could rise up in the ranks there and eventually overthrow it even if it was a shit place.


This would go completely against his characterization. If you haven't noticed already, Eren is not rational at all. Plus, his two friends and role models just told him that they're responsible for the death of his mother (and by extension the disappearance of his father) and that they're aligned with the monsters that he's vowed to fight and slaughter to the death. You're viewing this as a reader in the third person. Obviously if he went with them the plot would advance a lot faster, but to seriously expect him to just blindly take their word right after they admit they've been infiltrating traitors this entire time is just silly.

I'm pretty pleased that Eren gave them a hard time before they were finally able to drag his ass out of the city, kicking and screaming that he'll kill them both.

and keeps letting his hot ass sister save his ass all the time when she could be happily married and having hot, steamy sex daily with a real man if not for him needing her to baby him all the time.


lol. that's just not who misaka is as a person. she's not a piece of meat you know??? -_-
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2279 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 22:19:19
September 08 2013 22:18 GMT
#659
On September 09 2013 06:34 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 11:00 killa_robot wrote:
On September 08 2013 10:36 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 08 2013 08:02 killa_robot wrote:
Why would they build houses with the 3d manoeuvre in mind? The thing was only proven to be useful in the last few years, so the buildings far predate them.

Also I'm guessing Erin and Mikasa are going to be so scared they can't do anything. Revitalize that fear within them that up until now was largely rage.

According to this wiki 3d movement was invented during the fall of man by this guy, at least if I am reading it correctly.


Yes, but it was only proven USEFUL in the last few years. Before that every time they attack titans they lost horribly, so no one took it seriously. Don't you remember the opening chapters? Where they rode in the town, said they lost completely and there was no hope, and that everyone thought the exploration team was pointless?

They had the technology, they just didn't know the weakness of the titans.


+ Show Spoiler +
Still, that town layout is rather stupid especially considering that the whole point of those border towns is to be a bait for titans. Why don't they make them easy for humans and hard for titans to navigate? Not even talking about 3d gear. Just build a lot of escape ways towards the inner wall that are ~1m high. Humans can get through, titans can't. Have basements with small entrances as bunkers. Escape tunnels in a size that lets humans pass, but not titans. Alleyways which are ~60-80 cm broad in between houses. Of course you can't have every road like that, or it is practically impossible to do anything in that city. But you can have some. And of course titans will break that shit down over time, but that is exactly that. Time. You give your population more time to escape to safety by making them able to take escape ways through which titans can't follow without making a huge hole.



I thought no one had seen a single Titan in about 100 years, at the start of Shingeki. And if that was the case, I'm pretty sure some priests or governments would have covered the fact it happened.
Something like "Well we haven't seen a titan in 50 years but just in case, we'll build some paths to trap them, however don't worry, it will never happens." is out of the question for me. People wanted to forget about the mankind genocide, and being able to build a normal looking town is one way to do it - especially when the only way at that time to prevent Titans from attacking was the wall. No 3D gear, at least.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 09 2013 03:27 GMT
#660
On September 09 2013 07:18 Lysteria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 06:34 Simberto wrote:
On September 08 2013 11:00 killa_robot wrote:
On September 08 2013 10:36 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 08 2013 08:02 killa_robot wrote:
Why would they build houses with the 3d manoeuvre in mind? The thing was only proven to be useful in the last few years, so the buildings far predate them.

Also I'm guessing Erin and Mikasa are going to be so scared they can't do anything. Revitalize that fear within them that up until now was largely rage.

According to this wiki 3d movement was invented during the fall of man by this guy, at least if I am reading it correctly.


Yes, but it was only proven USEFUL in the last few years. Before that every time they attack titans they lost horribly, so no one took it seriously. Don't you remember the opening chapters? Where they rode in the town, said they lost completely and there was no hope, and that everyone thought the exploration team was pointless?

They had the technology, they just didn't know the weakness of the titans.


+ Show Spoiler +
Still, that town layout is rather stupid especially considering that the whole point of those border towns is to be a bait for titans. Why don't they make them easy for humans and hard for titans to navigate? Not even talking about 3d gear. Just build a lot of escape ways towards the inner wall that are ~1m high. Humans can get through, titans can't. Have basements with small entrances as bunkers. Escape tunnels in a size that lets humans pass, but not titans. Alleyways which are ~60-80 cm broad in between houses. Of course you can't have every road like that, or it is practically impossible to do anything in that city. But you can have some. And of course titans will break that shit down over time, but that is exactly that. Time. You give your population more time to escape to safety by making them able to take escape ways through which titans can't follow without making a huge hole.



I thought no one had seen a single Titan in about 100 years, at the start of Shingeki. And if that was the case, I'm pretty sure some priests or governments would have covered the fact it happened.
Something like "Well we haven't seen a titan in 50 years but just in case, we'll build some paths to trap them, however don't worry, it will never happens." is out of the question for me. People wanted to forget about the mankind genocide, and being able to build a normal looking town is one way to do it - especially when the only way at that time to prevent Titans from attacking was the wall. No 3D gear, at least.

pretty much this, humans were just so confident in the wall they never assumed a Titan could ever breach it

also maybe they never built the city? they never built the walls so maybe they didnt decide the alyout of the city themselves
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