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We made a thread specifically for Episode 8 now, let us head over to that one
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/entertainment/521373-star-wars-episode-viii-the-last-jedi
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 04 2015 23:15 GMT
#1561
On September 05 2015 07:50 LegalLord wrote:
Didn't 4/5/6 also have different directors? I think it's not a bad idea, in principle, as long as there's someone who is in charge of keeping continuity together between the series.

Yeah, Lucas, Kershner, Marquand in order of the OT.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 05 2015 00:07 GMT
#1562
On September 05 2015 08:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 07:50 LegalLord wrote:
Didn't 4/5/6 also have different directors? I think it's not a bad idea, in principle, as long as there's someone who is in charge of keeping continuity together between the series.


That's true. And we've got Lawrence Kasdan, the guy who cowrote 5 and 6, cowritng 7. And Rian Johnson is staying around to write 9 after he's finished directing 8 I believe.

But there'll still be differences in overall tone and cinematography I feel. For example 5 seemed a lot more static than 6 was. Jedi in itself, even when you take away the Ewoks, seemed to have more flowing camera movements, more ambitious space battle scenes, and perkier delivery of lines. Even the throne room scene feels more inviting than the Super Star Destroyer did in Empire.

The stylistic differences between the movies are quite apparent. But I don't think that's a bad thing. Take a counterexample: Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy. The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises were both great movies, but didn't it feel like the same movie was being repeated twice? Star Wars OT doesn't feel this way, and I think the stylistic differences make each movie stand out in some unique way.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 05 2015 00:30 GMT
#1563
On September 05 2015 09:07 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 08:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 05 2015 07:50 LegalLord wrote:
Didn't 4/5/6 also have different directors? I think it's not a bad idea, in principle, as long as there's someone who is in charge of keeping continuity together between the series.


That's true. And we've got Lawrence Kasdan, the guy who cowrote 5 and 6, cowritng 7. And Rian Johnson is staying around to write 9 after he's finished directing 8 I believe.

But there'll still be differences in overall tone and cinematography I feel. For example 5 seemed a lot more static than 6 was. Jedi in itself, even when you take away the Ewoks, seemed to have more flowing camera movements, more ambitious space battle scenes, and perkier delivery of lines. Even the throne room scene feels more inviting than the Super Star Destroyer did in Empire.

The stylistic differences between the movies are quite apparent. But I don't think that's a bad thing. Take a counterexample: Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy. The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises were both great movies, but didn't it feel like the same movie was being repeated twice? Star Wars OT doesn't feel this way, and I think the stylistic differences make each movie stand out in some unique way.

Not always. I think Dark Knight Rises has a similar structure (big bad introduces himself, big catastrophe begins the second act, Batman shows up and all is saved) but there's definitely differences, and although I think Dark Knight is much better movie, Rises evoked different emotions and reactions from me, and the subplots are completely different.

Or take the PT. The first is an action movie on top of a political thriller where you as the audience know 70% of what's going on, and maybe 10-20% is revealed over the course of the movie. The second plays out more like a mystery, where you start out guessing at what's going on and slowly learn the actions of Fett/Dooku/Kaminoans alongside Obi-Wan and Anakin. And the third is full of dramatic irony, where everything is given to you and the suspense is waiting for the characters to confront each other at the end. Same director, completely different movies.

But I agree with you 100% that it does make the OT movies more distinct from each other and that's a very good thing. I guess what I'm really worried about is, how much is going on between Abrams/Kasdan and Johnson? Like Lucas is the ultimate creative director in the end, but the big things storywise, at least the way they look now, are going to be handled by two separate groups of people.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 05 2015 00:54 GMT
#1564
Ideally, Disney will have someone who is coordinating between all the directors to make sure that their ideas flow together well. I think they do because it would be a fool's errand to repeat the mistakes of the PT.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
September 05 2015 14:05 GMT
#1565
Wasn't Kershner Lucas' film professor? I've always found The Empire Strikes Back to be my favorite.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
October 18 2015 21:59 GMT
#1566
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-star-wars-episode-7-poster-revealed-trailer-te/1100-6431499/
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 19 2015 00:17 GMT
#1567
Might as well link the poster here too

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playnice
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia302 Posts
October 19 2015 00:57 GMT
#1568
Look at the size of that thing
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
October 19 2015 05:52 GMT
#1569
awww yeah midnight tickets bought boys
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
October 19 2015 06:20 GMT
#1570
I like how the lightsaber is perfectly in line with the pole.

Super hyped!!
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 12:39:56
October 19 2015 12:30 GMT
#1571
What the hell is that thing above the black kids head? A small moon? It's too big to be a space station.

Deathstar 3.0?

Also interesting that Luke isn't on there. Instead we get that weird little alien in the middle.

Edit:

+ Show Spoiler +
So apparently it is called the Starkiller base, and is "An ice planet converted into a stronghold of the First Order and armed with a fiercely destructive new weapon capable of destroying entire star systems."

Also certainly the same ice world we see all the First Order army shots.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 19 2015 12:45 GMT
#1572
On October 19 2015 21:30 On_Slaught wrote:
What the hell is that thing above the black kids head? A small moon? It's too big to be a space station.

Deathstar 3.0?

Also interesting that Luke isn't on there. Instead we get that weird little alien in the middle.

Edit:

+ Show Spoiler +
So apparently it is called the Starkiller base, and is "An ice planet converted into a stronghold of the First Order and armed with a fiercely destructive new weapon capable of destroying entire star systems."

Also certainly the same ice world we see all the First Order army shots.

You have to take the Deathstar to its logical conclusion. So eventually it'll just be a galaxy sized Voltorb and just self destruct ending all life as we know it.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
October 19 2015 12:53 GMT
#1573
On October 19 2015 21:45 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 21:30 On_Slaught wrote:
What the hell is that thing above the black kids head? A small moon? It's too big to be a space station.

Deathstar 3.0?

Also interesting that Luke isn't on there. Instead we get that weird little alien in the middle.

Edit:

+ Show Spoiler +
So apparently it is called the Starkiller base, and is "An ice planet converted into a stronghold of the First Order and armed with a fiercely destructive new weapon capable of destroying entire star systems."

Also certainly the same ice world we see all the First Order army shots.

You have to take the Deathstar to its logical conclusion. So eventually it'll just be a galaxy sized Voltorb and just self destruct ending all life as we know it.

And because it's a Voltorb it recovers from self-destructing.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 17:14:50
October 19 2015 17:14 GMT
#1574
On October 19 2015 21:30 On_Slaught wrote:


Also interesting that Luke isn't on there. Instead we get that weird little alien in the middle.



Interesting indeed
knuckle
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 21:30:55
October 19 2015 21:27 GMT
#1575
On October 20 2015 02:14 HeatEXTEND wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 21:30 On_Slaught wrote:


Also interesting that Luke isn't on there. Instead we get that weird little alien in the middle.



Interesting indeed


I wonder...
+ Show Spoiler +

With that smiley face are you implying that Luke is in fact the sith in the picture? He has a black robe top similar to the one we see Luke wearing in the first trailer, and his black glove could be covering his prosthetic hand.
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 21:39:49
October 19 2015 21:37 GMT
#1576
The fact that Luke is missing could be that he just doesn't have a big part in this movie. Maybe a scene or two, and his real role doesn't come up until ep 8.

It's also possible that the opposite is the case and that showing Luke on the poster right now, in whatever state he is in, would be too much of a spoiler.

I also find it interesting that all of our legacy characters are small, in the middle, while our new unknown characters are large, along the top. This suggests to me that Luke is not in fact Kylo Ren.
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-20 00:43:18
October 20 2015 00:43 GMT
#1577
luke? is he not the one in the star fighter pilot suit?
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
October 20 2015 00:58 GMT
#1578
dat alien guy looks like a character from DBZ lol
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ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
October 20 2015 01:22 GMT
#1579
On October 20 2015 09:43 BurningSera wrote:
luke? is he not the one in the star fighter pilot suit?


Nope, thats Poe Dameron:

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Played by Oscar Issac:
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“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
October 20 2015 01:54 GMT
#1580
The new trailer should be dropping any minute now
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