EPT[Movie] The Hobbit Trilogy - Page 12
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feanor1
United States1899 Posts
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StarStruck
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blug
Australia623 Posts
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On November 28 2012 09:25 XX wrote: tbh, i think this will suck? and it will be a trilogy? wat? I don't think The Hobbit will suck, but I do have a hard time getting excited for it. I really, really appreciate Jackson's work; his LotR movies have been phenomenal, and as close to a perfect cinematic adaption of the original material as my inner Tolkien nerd could ever have hoped for. It's just that I simply cannot fathom how a three-part Hobbit is supposed to work. The book is slim, I could read it in an evening or two if I so choose (contrary to the LotR trilogy, the Silmarillion or other works). It's a wonderful story, but not an epic tale warranting a freaking trilogy. With the LotR movies, the separate films were alright; after all, they (more or less) followed the narrative of their respective book. With the Hobbit, the sole idea of splitting this short story up into so many parts simply doesn't work for me. December 2012, then December 2013, then July 2014 ... ugh. So much wait for so little story. I have no doubt the movies will be good; there's also no chance I won't see them. But where I couldn't wait to get my hands on LotR movie tickets back in the day, right now all I can muster regarding the upcoming Hobbit premiere is "meh". | ||
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Bobgrimly
New Zealand250 Posts
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Avs
Korea (North)857 Posts
On November 28 2012 14:28 Bobgrimly wrote: Had he made the lotr movies a 9 part series it might have done the books justice... but making the hobbit into 3 movies....money whoring is reaching whole new levels. And people wonder why everyone hates everything these days! | ||
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feanor1
United States1899 Posts
On November 28 2012 14:18 Shockk wrote: I don't think The Hobbit will suck, but I do have a hard time getting excited for it. I really, really appreciate Jackson's work; his LotR movies have been phenomenal, and as close to a perfect cinematic adaption of the original material as my inner Tolkien nerd could ever have hoped for. It's just that I simply cannot fathom how a three-part Hobbit is supposed to work. The book is slim, I could read it in an evening or two if I so choose (contrary to the LotR trilogy, the Silmarillion or other works). It's a wonderful story, but not an epic tale warranting a freaking trilogy. With the LotR movies, the separate films were alright; after all, they (more or less) followed the narrative of their respective book. With the Hobbit, the sole idea of splitting this short story up into so many parts simply doesn't work for me. December 2012, then December 2013, then July 2014 ... ugh. So much wait for so little story. I have no doubt the movies will be good; there's also no chance I won't see them. But where I couldn't wait to get my hands on LotR movie tickets back in the day, right now all I can muster regarding the upcoming Hobbit premiere is "meh". Eh, they still ahve the rights to all the material in the appendices of LotR and there is quite a bit there. I think that there is plenty of material for three films. | ||
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lubu42
United States314 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
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Falling
Canada11607 Posts
I'm just a little concerned about pacing and individual story arcs. Two films I have a better idea how they would break it up to tell a good story. Three kinda baffles me. The great difficulty with some of the recent movie splits is it messes up the story arc. Harry Potter: The Camping and Harry Potter: The Big Battle. All the build up in one film and all the pay-off in the other. I haven't watched Twilight, but I understand Part 1 is The Wedding and not much else and Part 2 is... a dream-vision? I'm confident there is enough material to film three good films- I'm just not sure how one would shape it into 3 satisfactory 'mini' stories. | ||
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cari-kira
Germany655 Posts
On November 28 2012 15:22 Falling wrote: I'm confident there is enough material to film three good films- I'm just not sure how one would shape it into 3 satisfactory 'mini' stories. Same here. the book has enough content for that. and while i felt that the LOTR books were really stretched at some times, especially at the end, where you had to cut many things to have an interesting film (sam and frodo climbing the mountain for hours and hours.. you really wanted that 1:1 in the film?), i think the hobbit book is much more packed while not going into detail as much. just perfect for a movie. you could say that the "content per words"-ratio in the hobbit book is much higher than in the LOTR books. saying this, im sooo hyped and i will totally get my gf to watch this at premiere. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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OKMarius
Norway469 Posts
On November 28 2012 16:17 J1.au wrote: These films will be good but they won't be "The Hobbit" from what I've heard so far. Tauriel, ugh... To be fair, there isn't a single female character in the Hobbit books. Quite understandable that they're adding one, and a rather small role at that. | ||
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
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Malkavian183
Turkey227 Posts
On November 28 2012 16:04 cari-kira wrote: Same here. the book has enough content for that. and while i felt that the LOTR books were really stretched at some times, especially at the end, where you had to cut many things to have an interesting film (sam and frodo climbing the mountain for hours and hours.. you really wanted that 1:1 in the film?), i think the hobbit book is much more packed while not going into detail as much. just perfect for a movie. you could say that the "content per words"-ratio in the hobbit book is much higher than in the LOTR books. saying this, im sooo hyped and i will totally get my gf to watch this at premiere. Well, in Hobbit books there are a lot of places where Tolkien just said "Then they sat, talked and told stories." I just hope that they will tell long stories from Silmarillion or On Rings of Power. Man, I really want them to make the place where Feanor charged alone to fight dozens of Balrogs on gates of Angband. Damn that would be good. Or Hurin cutting down 70 orcs and many trolls by himself before being captured. Or where Fingolfin injured Morgoth 13 times before getting killed. Damn... So many good SO many good stories that might be also told. (Not even counting Luthien and Beren which can be a movie by itself.) | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
On November 29 2012 05:34 Malkavian183 wrote: Well, in Hobbit books there are a lot of places where Tolkien just said "Then they sat, talked and told stories." I just hope that they will tell long stories from Silmarillion or On Rings of Power. Man, I really want them to make the place where Feanor charged alone to fight dozens of Balrogs on gates of Angband. Damn that would be good. Or Hurin cutting down 70 orcs and many trolls by himself before being captured. Or where Fingolfin injured Morgoth 13 times before getting killed. Damn... So many good SO many good stories that might be also told. (Not even counting Luthien and Beren which can be a movie by itself.) Not so sure it would be nice considering that the majority of viewers will not even be able to comprehend who Melkor is, or what he is. For the majority of people a Balrog is just "big badass thing that Gandalf killed." Pretty sure they also think that there was a single Balrog, the one Gandalf killed. Putting stuff from the Silmarillion in the middle of the hobbit just seems silly to me. The Silmarillion can't be a movie, way too much contradiction within a single book  | ||
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Yacobs
United States846 Posts
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OKMarius
Norway469 Posts
On November 29 2012 05:34 Malkavian183 wrote: Well, in Hobbit books there are a lot of places where Tolkien just said "Then they sat, talked and told stories." I just hope that they will tell long stories from Silmarillion or On Rings of Power. Man, I really want them to make the place where Feanor charged alone to fight dozens of Balrogs on gates of Angband. Damn that would be good. Or Hurin cutting down 70 orcs and many trolls by himself before being captured. Or where Fingolfin injured Morgoth 13 times before getting killed. Damn... So many good SO many good stories that might be also told. (Not even counting Luthien and Beren which can be a movie by itself.) They don't have the rights to Silmarillion, so they can't use any of that stuff. Wouldn't work, either. Hope to see The Silmarillion as a big budget-miniseries some day.  | ||
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
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