On July 29 2011 22:51 SxYSpAz wrote: i am so glad i viewed this thread. I've been calling metalcore "death metal" for years. I feel really stupid now that this difference is extremely clear.
I guess i just don't hear any mainstream death metal, but the genre is said more than metalcore by far
DM isn't mainstream. The closest death metal ever got to mainstream was in the early to mid 90s when mtv would occasionally acknowledge it.
And I guess as far as the most widely known band that people who aren't really into the genre would have heard of is Cannibal Corpse.
Morbid Angel is pretty well known for Death Metal. I would say even more so than CC.
I'd also like to note that the new Fleshgod is pretty awful and boring considering how good Oracles was. The guitars are like hidden underneath all of the orchestral noise. It's like they are trying to draw attention from it. They are known as a Brutal Death metal band and this sounds like it will be kind of mediocre. This is of course my opinion.
I think it is safe to say that Canibal Corpse is by far the most well-known death metal band.
Not nessecarily due to music but rather image as being the most "brutal"/"hard" band in pop culture.
Personally I think the most well-liked death metal band in metal circles is "Death". The grand-daddies of death metal with 7 records. 6 of which I love to death.
On July 30 2011 10:54 TheBamf wrote: I think it is safe to say that Canibal Corpse is by far the most well-known death metal band.
Not nessecarily due to music but rather image as being the most "brutal"/"hard" band in pop culture.
Personally I think the most well-liked death metal band in metal circles is "Death". The grand-daddies of death metal with 7 records. 6 of which I love to death.
I would agree with this. Most of my friends who like DM, usually like Death. They gush over them a lot. I never really got into Death too much. Scream Bloody Gore, Leprosy and Symbolic are what I like.
I usually am getting so much music I forget some bands. Plus I tend to mix up what I listen to so it gets even more jumbled. Some people say metal is dying which is bullshit. People who say that just aren't searching hard enough.
Extreme metal isn't dying. It' just being infected by -core right now. There's actually been a lot of awesome new stuff coming out lately. For example:
Have any of you guys gotten Towards the Megalith by Disma? If you like Incantation, go pick this up now. It's great.
On July 29 2011 22:51 SxYSpAz wrote: i am so glad i viewed this thread. I've been calling metalcore "death metal" for years. I feel really stupid now that this difference is extremely clear.
I guess i just don't hear any mainstream death metal, but the genre is said more than metalcore by far
DM isn't mainstream. The closest death metal ever got to mainstream was in the early to mid 90s when mtv would occasionally acknowledge it.
And I guess as far as the most widely known band that people who aren't really into the genre would have heard of is Cannibal Corpse.
Morbid Angel is pretty well known for Death Metal. I would say even more so than CC.
I'd also like to note that the new Fleshgod is pretty awful and boring considering how good Oracles was. The guitars are like hidden underneath all of the orchestral noise. It's like they are trying to draw attention from it. They are known as a Brutal Death metal band and this sounds like it will be kind of mediocre. This is of course my opinion.
I like the new Fleshgod album, the first half less so, but it picks up in the second half. Not sure what all the complaints I'm hearing of guitars being hidden as they are audible the whole way through with only a couple of moments being the exception. It's definitely not the emphasis of the album though. I'm a fan of Oracles too, but not Mafia, find mafia after thru our scars to be boring as hell.
There are quite a few bands in the UK that are taking off/still about, so I wouldn't say it's dying - Cancerous Womb, Cerebral Bore, Dawn of Chaos, Nerrus Kor, Vulsellum Infected Dissary etc. etc.
On July 28 2011 01:13 TheBamf wrote: Someone likes finnish DM ^^
The Karelian Isthmus by Amorphis is fuckign brilliant, I do not understand why they degraded their sound with every album from there on.
Indeed I do! It's a bit underrated in the broad scheme of things. For some reason "Swedish Death Metal" have become a term, when I myself find that the fins were doing the same thing better. And I don't really like the sort of death metal which is characteristically Swedish - that being Nihilist/Entombed, Dismember and of course the melodic Gothenburg bands. I don't mean to come off as saying they're bad, but not my cup of tea. (And Dismember's debut LP is pretty sick!)
And to take two other bands that started out as a more pure breed of death metal, before turning to a more blackened or melodic state... Marduk and Dissection.
To call these tracks black metal or whatever else would be blasphemy!
On July 31 2011 22:45 TheBamf wrote: Not to tramp on your parade but I can deffo hear the Black metal.
And I love all bands linked so <3
And I can hear a lot of thrash in death metal, but it isn't thrash - or a lot of death and thrash in black, but its still black. Of course these genres share some common traits.
On July 29 2011 22:51 SxYSpAz wrote: i am so glad i viewed this thread. I've been calling metalcore "death metal" for years. I feel really stupid now that this difference is extremely clear.
I guess i just don't hear any mainstream death metal, but the genre is said more than metalcore by far
DM isn't mainstream. The closest death metal ever got to mainstream was in the early to mid 90s when mtv would occasionally acknowledge it.
And I guess as far as the most widely known band that people who aren't really into the genre would have heard of is Cannibal Corpse.
Morbid Angel is pretty well known for Death Metal. I would say even more so than CC.
I'd also like to note that the new Fleshgod is pretty awful and boring considering how good Oracles was. The guitars are like hidden underneath all of the orchestral noise. It's like they are trying to draw attention from it. They are known as a Brutal Death metal band and this sounds like it will be kind of mediocre. This is of course my opinion.
I like the new Fleshgod album, the first half less so, but it picks up in the second half. Not sure what all the complaints I'm hearing of guitars being hidden as they are audible the whole way through with only a couple of moments being the exception. It's definitely not the emphasis of the album though. I'm a fan of Oracles too, but not Mafia, find mafia after thru our scars to be boring as hell.
My real complaint is that the guitars are pretty weak. Brutal death is pretty guitar oriented, Obviously it is heavily drum oriented as well. I listen to my friends drool over the drumming in that one song, I'm like "that is pretty standard for the genre." Then they are always claiming I'm a troll and a hipster.
On July 31 2011 08:42 couches wrote: Woops, missed that post.
It's all good. Disma needs more attention.
Also that Hour of Penance album isnt that new being from 2010. That being said it is a very enjoyable technical brutal death album. Not boring, something a lot of brutal bands fall victim to.
It may seem that I'm nit picking your post. It's just what I do. I guess I like to talk too much about music. lol.
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but Mitochondrion's new album is really crushing. Probably one of the few recent death metal acts that does it so well.
On July 29 2011 22:51 SxYSpAz wrote: i am so glad i viewed this thread. I've been calling metalcore "death metal" for years. I feel really stupid now that this difference is extremely clear.
I guess i just don't hear any mainstream death metal, but the genre is said more than metalcore by far
DM isn't mainstream. The closest death metal ever got to mainstream was in the early to mid 90s when mtv would occasionally acknowledge it.
And I guess as far as the most widely known band that people who aren't really into the genre would have heard of is Cannibal Corpse.
Morbid Angel is pretty well known for Death Metal. I would say even more so than CC.
I'd also like to note that the new Fleshgod is pretty awful and boring considering how good Oracles was. The guitars are like hidden underneath all of the orchestral noise. It's like they are trying to draw attention from it. They are known as a Brutal Death metal band and this sounds like it will be kind of mediocre. This is of course my opinion.
I like the new Fleshgod album, the first half less so, but it picks up in the second half. Not sure what all the complaints I'm hearing of guitars being hidden as they are audible the whole way through with only a couple of moments being the exception. It's definitely not the emphasis of the album though. I'm a fan of Oracles too, but not Mafia, find mafia after thru our scars to be boring as hell.
My real complaint is that the guitars are pretty weak. Brutal death is pretty guitar oriented, Obviously it is heavily drum oriented as well. I listen to my friends drool over the drumming in that one song, I'm like "that is pretty standard for the genre." Then they are always claiming I'm a troll and a hipster.
Eh, I can hear the guitars pretty clearly, and I've changed my mind. The entire album is awesome, there are only a couple of bits where the orchestral bits sound disjointed and random. I take it from your comment you've only heard The Violation? The album version is a lot meatier than the version on youtube, guitars a lot clearer. The drumming style is pretty standard, but the drummer is one of the faster around. Yeah, my friends call me that too, bastards :D
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