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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18149 Posts
August 17 2017 12:40 GMT
#14301
On August 17 2017 21:29 Pontual wrote:
I don't know, this Azor Ahai stuff has been losing momentum ever since Jon Snow revived and nothing really happened. Perhaps in the books it'll be different, but the show haven't been giving tips about for quite a while, other than melisandre saying Dany and Jon have a part to play in the future.

Well, they had the whole thing where Melissandre said she thought Daenerys could be the princeSS that was promised, and that the original prophecy in high Valyrian was gender neutral (not sure whether that was spelled out in the books, or just a generally accepted fan theory based on other knowledge about high Valyrian). So the PtwP is definitely still a thing in the series. There's also the question whether they will deal with it more in the show or leave it at that, because I don't think the show ever mentioned Azor Ahai or the prophecy surrounding him: I think it only talked about the PtwP, and Azor Ahai is exclusive to the books.

Regardless, the series could spin this differently from the books. But in the books, I think this theory has a good chance of being true: it ticks all the boxes.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 17 2017 14:13 GMT
#14302
On August 17 2017 14:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 10:14 blade55555 wrote:
On August 17 2017 01:26 Pontual wrote:
Since this is the spoilers thread, did anyone watch the leaked episode? + Show Spoiler +
it seems there are undead frost dragons,
like sindragosa lol


I saw it.
+ Show Spoiler +

Some fucker online spoiled it for me months in advance (by telling me it was a leak) so I knew a dragon was going to die and it still made me sad.

I also know what will happen in next episode thanks to that dickwad... Only one part of next episode but still.


I saw it as well.

+ Show Spoiler +
one of the worst episodes of the show so far imo


+ Show Spoiler +

haha at this point I will be super super super shocked if you enjoy any of the future episodes. Don't think I have seen a single positive post from you on any of the episodes .
When I think of something else, something will go here
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 14:20:53
August 17 2017 14:16 GMT
#14303
On August 17 2017 23:13 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 14:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 17 2017 10:14 blade55555 wrote:
On August 17 2017 01:26 Pontual wrote:
Since this is the spoilers thread, did anyone watch the leaked episode? + Show Spoiler +
it seems there are undead frost dragons,
like sindragosa lol


I saw it.
+ Show Spoiler +

Some fucker online spoiled it for me months in advance (by telling me it was a leak) so I knew a dragon was going to die and it still made me sad.

I also know what will happen in next episode thanks to that dickwad... Only one part of next episode but still.


I saw it as well.

+ Show Spoiler +
one of the worst episodes of the show so far imo


+ Show Spoiler +

haha at this point I will be super super super shocked if you enjoy any of the future episodes. Don't think I have seen a single positive post from you on any of the episodes .

+ Show Spoiler +
You say this all the time but in reality i almost everytime say that the episode was decent and that i enjoy the show enough to keep watching. I simply point out the bad things because the "good things" keep being the same (actors, cinematography, production value, etc)

About this episode: The only scene which was actually good was the little talk between dany and tyrion. The rest was bad imo. I would need to think about it more but i think it migth be the worst episode of GoT ever
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
August 17 2017 14:21 GMT
#14304
On August 17 2017 23:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 23:13 blade55555 wrote:
On August 17 2017 14:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 17 2017 10:14 blade55555 wrote:
On August 17 2017 01:26 Pontual wrote:
Since this is the spoilers thread, did anyone watch the leaked episode? + Show Spoiler +
it seems there are undead frost dragons,
like sindragosa lol


I saw it.
+ Show Spoiler +

Some fucker online spoiled it for me months in advance (by telling me it was a leak) so I knew a dragon was going to die and it still made me sad.

I also know what will happen in next episode thanks to that dickwad... Only one part of next episode but still.


I saw it as well.

+ Show Spoiler +
one of the worst episodes of the show so far imo


+ Show Spoiler +

haha at this point I will be super super super shocked if you enjoy any of the future episodes. Don't think I have seen a single positive post from you on any of the episodes .

+ Show Spoiler +
You say this all the time but in reality i almost everytime say that the episode was decent and that i enjoy the show enough to keep watching. I simply point out the bad things because the "good things" keep being the same (actors, cinematography, production build, etc)

About this episode: The only scene which was actually good was the little talk between dany and tyrion. The rest was bad imo. I would need to think about it more but i think it migth be the worst episode of GoT ever


+ Show Spoiler +
I think it's up there. The dialogue between The Hound and Tormund was mindblowingly bad, I thought. My eyes went wide when Tormund said "I want to have babies with her". It didn't strike me as fun, just outright silly. Same for Dany and Jon in the cabin, the pace really stops me from believing their connection.

Dragons were cool though.
I like words.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18149 Posts
August 17 2017 14:22 GMT
#14305
Yeah....
+ Show Spoiler +
Hahah, gotcha.
Snape kills Dumbledore
Bruce Willis is dead
Tyler Durden doesn't exist
Soilent Green is made of people
Norman Bates' mother is dead
etc.
way2mash4u
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany183 Posts
August 17 2017 14:44 GMT
#14306
+ Show Spoiler +
So know we know Jon will be riding the dragon named after his father.
Will Bran be able to control the frost wyrm, that is the question.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 17 2017 14:57 GMT
#14307
+ Show Spoiler +
some talking points:

Dany showing up in time made no sense whatsoever, that was actually teleporting
The tension between Arya and Sansa seems to be incredibly fake, especially the last scene
The expedition in the north actually had no plan, it was just mere coincidence that they found a small group of wights and one stays intact after killing the ww
the killing of the dragon wasn't done well imo, he simply throws a spear, ok
the action scenes could have been the redeeming quality of the episode, but even these weren't that great

but sure we have a wight dragon now, that's neat
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43343 Posts
August 17 2017 15:30 GMT
#14308
+ Show Spoiler [Whatever, so I guess we're doing…] +
They'll do an awful, awful lot better vs the wights once someone points out that you only need to kill the White Walkers and we have these mobile ranged flying strike platform that are capable of deep penetration behind enemy lines. Breathing fire on the wights is cool and all but they're a bitch to kill, are easily replaceable, and not all that dangerous.

I'd bet $100% sure that we're gonna see two dragons fighting in an epic midair battle because why the hell would you even have the undead dragon if you didn't plan to do that. But to kill the undead dragon all you need to do is kill the white walker.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
August 17 2017 16:17 GMT
#14309
great thread
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
August 17 2017 16:34 GMT
#14310
On August 18 2017 01:17 Yhamm wrote:
great thread

this got me a good laugh
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 17 2017 16:55 GMT
#14311
On August 18 2017 01:17 Yhamm wrote:
great thread

It's better than never having any form of discussion imo. This thread's purpose is extremely limited atm
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
August 17 2017 17:24 GMT
#14312
+ Show Spoiler +
Couldn't resist any longer,so I just watched it...

I normally don't complain about teleportation, but the raven and the dragons must fly pretty damn fast if the round trip took only 1 night. I have mixed feelings about the episode: dragons and fight scenes were great, but everything else not so much. I hate it that I complain too much lately, but things made sense in earlier seasons, they were grounded and there was very little plot armor, basically everything was believable. Seems that's out the window now and we have full-on Hollywood style show, which is entertaining granted, but on a more spectacular, or shall I say, shallow way. I don't mind the fan service, in fact I expect that to be in full swing in the upcoming books too, but I think there should be a pinch of reality in there somewhere.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9261 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 23:14:21
August 17 2017 22:36 GMT
#14313
+ Show Spoiler +
Looks like the only way to enjoy this show is watching it how you're supposed to watch a zombie show - with your brain turned off. I'm complaining, but I really did enjoy this action-packed mess. Don't have much hopes for the upcoming events in King's Landing and Winterfell though, those are going to to be cringey.

There is no way Martin will write something like this, r-right?

On August 17 2017 23:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
the killing of the dragon wasn't done well imo, he simply throws a spear, ok


It was a magic spear so it's ok


On August 17 2017 00:41 LennX wrote:
The asoiaf fanboys have a very scary way of predicting events that may/will happen in the series. Be weary of spoilers. I'm interested to hear your views after episode 6 is officially released.


+ Show Spoiler +
What a disappointment, your post made me expect Littlefinger to die in this episode and it was just a frost wyrm.
You're now breathing manually
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
August 17 2017 23:32 GMT
#14314
On August 18 2017 07:36 Sent. wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Looks like the only way to enjoy this show is watching it how you're supposed to watch a zombie show - with your brain turned off. I'm complaining, but I really did enjoy this action-packed mess. Don't have much hopes for the upcoming events in King's Landing and Winterfell though, those are going to to be cringey.

There is no way Martin will write something like this, r-right?

On August 17 2017 23:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
the killing of the dragon wasn't done well imo, he simply throws a spear, ok


It was a magic spear so it's ok


Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 00:41 LennX wrote:
The asoiaf fanboys have a very scary way of predicting events that may/will happen in the series. Be weary of spoilers. I'm interested to hear your views after episode 6 is officially released.


+ Show Spoiler +
What a disappointment, your post made me expect Littlefinger to die in this episode and it was just a frost wyrm.

Dont worry that happens next week
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 17 2017 23:40 GMT
#14315
On August 18 2017 08:32 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 07:36 Sent. wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Looks like the only way to enjoy this show is watching it how you're supposed to watch a zombie show - with your brain turned off. I'm complaining, but I really did enjoy this action-packed mess. Don't have much hopes for the upcoming events in King's Landing and Winterfell though, those are going to to be cringey.

There is no way Martin will write something like this, r-right?

On August 17 2017 23:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
the killing of the dragon wasn't done well imo, he simply throws a spear, ok


It was a magic spear so it's ok


On August 17 2017 00:41 LennX wrote:
The asoiaf fanboys have a very scary way of predicting events that may/will happen in the series. Be weary of spoilers. I'm interested to hear your views after episode 6 is officially released.


+ Show Spoiler +
What a disappointment, your post made me expect Littlefinger to die in this episode and it was just a frost wyrm.

Dont worry that happens next week

I can only pray.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
August 18 2017 00:07 GMT
#14316
On August 18 2017 00:30 KwarK wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Whatever, so I guess we're doing…] +
They'll do an awful, awful lot better vs the wights once someone points out that you only need to kill the White Walkers and we have these mobile ranged flying strike platform that are capable of deep penetration behind enemy lines. Breathing fire on the wights is cool and all but they're a bitch to kill, are easily replaceable, and not all that dangerous.

I'd bet $100% sure that we're gonna see two dragons fighting in an epic midair battle because why the hell would you even have the undead dragon if you didn't plan to do that. But to kill the undead dragon all you need to do is kill the white walker.


+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not sure of that actually. You'll notice the Night King doesn't just raise Viserion from the dead, he touches him and his eyes turn blue. Which is the same thing that happened with Craster's last son (and seemingly all other sons). So I'm thinking Viserion is actually not a wight, but a "white walker dragon"; which means he would be vulnerable to dragonglass and Valyrian Steel and killing the Night King wouldn't bring him down.

It's a moot point really, as I don't see the Night King dying before Viserion anyway. But what I'm getting at is: prepare yourself for GoT's Black Arrow moment, where people have to melt several Valyrian Steel swords to forge one scorpion bolt, and have Bronn fire it to kill Viserion.
I like words.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
August 18 2017 00:07 GMT
#14317
On August 18 2017 08:40 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 08:32 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 18 2017 07:36 Sent. wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Looks like the only way to enjoy this show is watching it how you're supposed to watch a zombie show - with your brain turned off. I'm complaining, but I really did enjoy this action-packed mess. Don't have much hopes for the upcoming events in King's Landing and Winterfell though, those are going to to be cringey.

There is no way Martin will write something like this, r-right?

On August 17 2017 23:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
the killing of the dragon wasn't done well imo, he simply throws a spear, ok


It was a magic spear so it's ok


On August 17 2017 00:41 LennX wrote:
The asoiaf fanboys have a very scary way of predicting events that may/will happen in the series. Be weary of spoilers. I'm interested to hear your views after episode 6 is officially released.


+ Show Spoiler +
What a disappointment, your post made me expect Littlefinger to die in this episode and it was just a frost wyrm.

Dont worry that happens next week

I can only pray.

Just to be clear next week means season finale
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-18 00:54:53
August 18 2017 00:54 GMT
#14318
+ Show Spoiler +
That was a pretty good throw. I like how John tells them to peace out. And apparently dragons fly real fast, but I bet that math works out. Those dragons have to haul ass to get out of frame all the time(for real, they must haul ass)

All and all, fun banter and the Arya Sansa seen was good.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4562 Posts
August 18 2017 01:46 GMT
#14319
On August 18 2017 07:36 Sent. wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +
What a disappointment, your post made me expect Littlefinger to die in this episode and it was just a frost wyrm.



+ Show Spoiler +
I expect LF to survive until the end.



1 more episode to go and we got to wait another year.
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10133 Posts
August 18 2017 01:52 GMT
#14320
On August 18 2017 10:46 LennX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 07:36 Sent. wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +
What a disappointment, your post made me expect Littlefinger to die in this episode and it was just a frost wyrm.



+ Show Spoiler +
I expect LF to survive until the end.



1 more episode to go and we got to wait another year.

+ Show Spoiler +
LF will reign westeros
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