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Zozo
Brazil2579 Posts
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Wolfstan
Canada605 Posts
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chillpenguin
United States90 Posts
On May 16 2014 21:54 karazax wrote: Tywin disowned Jaime, and never made any deal to spare Tyrion in exchange for Jaime leaving the Kings Guard. Also Tywin would be more likely to command Jaime not to fight if he cared, and disobeying Tywin and expecting him to reward that with mercy is a stretch at best. The idea that there is "no way" Tywin would lose both of his heirs is entirely false because in the books he does lose both heirs by disowning Jaime and convicting Tyrion of murder. If I remember correctly, I think that it's common knowledge early in the trial process that Cersei intends to have The Mountain fight as the Crown's champion, should Tyrion request a trial by combat. I think Tyrion even brings up the idea to Bronn and he's like, "no fuckin' way". I doubt he would condemn his recently disabled brother to that fate, especially given what karazax just stated, that Tywin did lose both his heirs anyway. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On May 17 2014 07:40 Wolfstan wrote: I really am beginning to like how Ramsay was portrayed, I liked the wiki of Shagwell too, a shame we only have 1 skilled crazy motherfucker in the show. Well we will have the Greyjoys presumably next season. Euron, Damphair and Victarion. Biter and Rorge should return, but they didn't play as prominent a role in the show. And Qyburn should also have a more prominent role. I wonder if they will cast Sam's father, Randyll Tarley? Wyman Manderly is another I'm looking forward to. Though neither of those 2 are crazy. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On May 17 2014 13:39 karazax wrote: Well we will have the Greyjoys presumably next season. Euron, Damphair and Victarion. Biter and Rorge should return, but they didn't play as prominent a role in the show. And Qyburn should also have a more prominent role. I wonder if they will cast Sam's father, Randyll Tarley? Wyman Manderly is another I'm looking forward to. Though neither of those 2 are crazy. "Presumably"? I really do hope we get them. Euron and Victarion are too badass to be cut. Plus they're essential to the story. I wonder what's taken them so long to introduce them... If it is to replace them with scenes like the ones at the Dreadfort. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On May 16 2014 22:29 KadaverBB wrote: Another dumb question, why did Ramsey show up to the fight super bloodied already? Is it implied that he had some motherfucking rough sex with that girl or did he just kill her when he was finished?^^ loooool, Ramsay is bloodied because he fights and kills Ironborns that were outside the Kennel/Prison, you can even hear fighting, swords and screaming right before he enters the room. Pretty obvious  | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
I look forward to their dialogue. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On May 17 2014 18:41 daemir wrote: Red Viper didn't really leave Tyrion much choice in the books. It was either name him his champion or face the conclusion of the trial. He told Tyrion that he already had 2 judges going against him (tywin, mace) and that "justice is hard to come by here", since he was getting none for Elia and her children. Wasn't much of a choice for Tyrion at that point. Ah yes, I remember something like that in the books now, it's been too long... | ||
dravernor
Netherlands6192 Posts
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On May 17 2014 15:11 Spaylz wrote: "Presumably"? I really do hope we get them. Euron and Victarion are too badass to be cut. Plus they're essential to the story. I wonder what's taken them so long to introduce them... If it is to replace them with scenes like the ones at the Dreadfort. I'm sure we will get some of them, whether we get all 3... Who knows. The reason for delaying their appearance is no doubt to keep the cast costs reasonable. Getting a good actor to play a role for multiple seasons requires that they have a certain number of scenes, which is part of why they made up the Dreadfort scene no doubt; to give Yara, Theon, and Ramsay some screen time that wasn't in the books. They will probably postpone Balon's death til next year, and intro which ever Greyjoys then after they cut the cast some with the loss of Tywin, Lysa, Oberyn, Ygritte, ect. Of course if Balon is alive still, you have to wonder what he has been doing this whole time? He let Yara take her "best" warriors all the way to the opposite coast of Westeros to try to rescue Theon, who neither one of cared that much about when they abandoned him at Winterfell, and at some point they took Moat Cailin. Victarion took Moat Cailin in the books, and the only reason he and most of his men left is because Balon died, and he had to return to stake his claim at the King's Moot. If Theon some how helps Ramsay take Moat Cailin before Balon's death, then it will be harder to take the Iron Born seriously in future seasons. Even though the King's Moot was in Feast for Crows, timing wise it happened during Storm of Swords, as Balon died before Robb or Joffrey, and Euron showed up the day after his brother's death. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On May 18 2014 06:31 karazax wrote: I'm sure we will get some of them, whether we get all 3... Who knows. The reason for delaying their appearance is no doubt to keep the cast costs reasonable. Getting a good actor to play a role for multiple seasons requires that they have a certain number of scenes, which is part of why they made up the Dreadfort scene no doubt; to give Yara, Theon, and Ramsay some screen time that wasn't in the books. They will probably postpone Balon's death til next year, and intro which ever Greyjoys then after they cut the cast some with the loss of Tywin, Lysa, Oberyn, Ygritte, ect. Of course if Balon is alive still, you have to wonder what he has been doing this whole time? He let Yara take her "best" warriors all the way to the opposite coast of Westeros to try to rescue Theon, who neither one of cared that much about when they abandoned him at Winterfell, and at some point they took Moat Cailin. Victarion took Moat Cailin in the books, and the only reason he and most of his men left is because Balon died, and he had to return to stake his claim at the King's Moot. If Theon some how helps Ramsay take Moat Cailin before Balon's death, then it will be harder to take the Iron Born seriously in future seasons. Even though the King's Moot was in Feast for Crows, timing wise it happened during Storm of Swords, as Balon died before Robb or Joffrey, and Euron showed up the day after his brother's death. My question is: How will they potray Balons death? We know he fell down from a Pyke Bridge/tower, but alot speculated if it was an assasin who did it, maybe even one of the faceless men. Altough the last thing would be REALLY wierd, since Faceless men are the most expensive shit in the world, so who would spend so much money on getting Balon killed But yeah, Victarion and Crow'Eye are awesome, can't wait to see them | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On May 18 2014 18:12 SmoKim wrote: My question is: How will they potray Balons death? We know he fell down from a Pyke Bridge/tower, but alot speculated if it was an assasin who did it, maybe even one of the faceless men. Altough the last thing would be REALLY wierd, since Faceless men are the most expensive shit in the world, so who would spend so much money on getting Balon killed But yeah, Victarion and Crow'Eye are awesome, can't wait to see them Faceless Men don't always ask for money. Sometimes they ask for something valuable, or something dear to you. According to Euron himself, he had a dragon egg and threw it into the sea in a fit of rage. Maybe he gave it to the Faceless Men instead? In any case, it's not that hard to feature on show. Just show Balon walking on one of those Pyke bridges, with the bridge collapsing. Then, before the end of the sequence, you show a silhouette far away in the shadows, or something along those lines... Perhaps too obvious though. A better solution would be to have it said in dialogue. | ||
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0x64
Finland4615 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12463 Posts
Also you better hope they cast Wyman Manderly. I want my 'had he lived, he would have grown up to be a Frey.' | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
hehe edit: Also, I'm pretty sure Wyman Manderly is central to the plot. He seems to be one of the major schemers of the North, and he's the one who tasks Davos to retrieve Rickon. Gotta happen. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
I always like the godfather pulling the strings character type. And he fucks with the most annoying/hated houses which makes him even cooler. | ||
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Dunmer
United Kingdom568 Posts
THE NORTH REMEMBERS ! | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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