EPTOn May 10 2014 02:37 boxerfred wrote:
Oh, must've missed the point in the show where Jorah gets banished. Which episode is that?
Oh, must've missed the point in the show where Jorah gets banished. Which episode is that?
Not for quite awhile.
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Zorkmid
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Not for quite awhile. | ||
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BallinWitStalin
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On May 09 2014 01:03 ComaDose wrote: maybe i'm missing part of the metaphore but are you suggesting shes going to have stockholm syndrome with a rapist Absolutely not. Her whole character was wrapped up in unrealistic dreams about chivalry, nobility, etc. that are not reflected in reality. I suspect she's going to end up with someone who would not fulfil those unrealistic, early expectations (i.e. the bear), but who she will ultimately construct a life with where she is able to find some semblance of happiness. I believe that he time with Littlefinger is limited, and will come to an end at some point. She's a pawn in his schemes, an object. Trust me, he doesn't care about her anymore than anything else, and perhaps only as an object of lust. I don't know why people think he's going to "teach her how to become a great player in the game". Why the hell would he do that? | ||
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Fulla
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BallinWitStalin
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It's a possibility, I suppose..... Even still, the idea that Littlefinger has compassion or actually cares about someone enough to "do them a favour" (i.e. teach her how to become essentially dangerous to him as another potential competent schemer) is not one I think is likely. Plus, the bear and the maiden fair just fits well. | ||
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On May 12 2014 03:10 Meta wrote: With regard to Sansa, I think Littlefinger will follow through with his plan to marry her to Harrold Hardyng and somehow dispose of young Robert Arryn, who is unfit to rule, thereby securing both the Veil and the North by propping up trustworthy people who are indebted to him. Didn't he more or less spell this out, within the confines of what has to constitute LF spelling something out anyway? Except for Robert's death perhaps. There is the chance the boy will die without LF ever having had to do a thing*. *Such a tragedy that there are all these politically delicate official engagements that require the boy to appear healthy, necessitating this treatment that makes him look better off for a while but at the cost of his long term prognosis... | ||
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c0ldfusion
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GGTeMpLaR
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
The trial was expertly done though. The book Shae storyline had a lot more of an impact than jilted Shae but the rest of the trial was pretty great. Dinklage owns it. | ||
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c0ldfusion
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acker
United States2958 Posts
Liked Tyrion's monologue at the end, but there's a hole concerning that Tyrion doesn't have a champion lined up before saying the words. TV Dany is an self-righteous douchebag even beyond Book Dany. Dislike this change, though not nearly as much as the Dreadfort and Shae stuff. | ||
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templar rage
United States2509 Posts
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On May 12 2014 12:38 CobaltBlu wrote: That Asha at Dreadfort sequence was one of the dumbest things I've seen. The trial was expertly done though. The book Shae storyline had a lot more of an impact than jilted Shae but the rest of the trial was pretty great. Dinklage owns it. Agreed. The non-Shae trial was good. Jaime being played by Tywin was good. The Shae part was ruined, as we more or less knew it would be. Within the bounds that they had set for themselves it was ok I guess. That was more or less what had to be expected. Asha's little mission to save Theon goes down as more pointless filler. How are they finding time for pointless filler when they have so much other material that they are forced to condense? At least it was the latter part of this episode that came across as strong while the earlier parts were weak. The last two put weaker moments towards the end and that final impression is pretty important. One book moment they seemed to think that they preserved yet didn't quite was right at the end. They kept the Tyrion-Tywin stare down with the "I just ruined all your plans" glare from Tyrion, but in the show we don't know that so well yet. They haven't determined who the champions are. Sure, Tywin obviously had plans and a trial by combat ruins them, but it was the political nightmare that was Oberyn facing Gregor that really made things bad for Tywin and really put the emphasis on that particular "fuck you" from Tyrion to Tywin. Disappointed in the unsullied. They have been getting slow lately. Some seem to think that a trial saves Tyrion's life no matter the outcome because the death of his champion covers the guilt and that Jaime's deal with Tywin stands. Ok, so maybe it takes a bit for the latter to sink in. But the first? WTF are they thinking? | ||
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domane
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Vindicare605
United States16118 Posts
The whole relationship between Jaime and Tyrion is being played out VERY differently from the book. I wonder what this going to mean later when Jaime comes to regret setting him free. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Bringing Jamie back earlier was a better call overall. They've made his relationship with Tyrion more endearing, while likewise making his relationship with Tywin and Cersei more strained for what seems like the eventual collapse of the Lannisters. Next episode: Lysa flies ^o^ | ||
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woody60707
United States1863 Posts
On May 12 2014 14:00 Vindicare605 wrote: Trial was beautifully done, Dinklage IS fucking Tyrion Lannister. The whole relationship between Jaime and Tyrion is being played out VERY differently from the book. I wonder what this going to mean later when Jaime comes to regret setting him free. What makes you say Jamie ever regretted setting Tyrion free? On that note, I never liked in the book how Tyrion lied to Jamie about killing his son. It just felt like forced drama. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On May 12 2014 14:51 woody60707 wrote: What makes you say Jamie ever regretted setting Tyrion free? On that note, I never liked in the book how Tyrion lied to Jamie about killing his son. It just felt like forced drama. In AFFC, Jaime thinks several times about his own guilt regarding his father's death, as he was the one who set Tyrion free, and Tyrion was the one who killed Tywin. He does think something along the lines of "I shouldn't have set him free" a few times. Though they're just impulsive thoughts, and I think that if he had to do it again, he'd do the same thing. | ||
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Vorenius
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On May 12 2014 13:36 Irrelevant Label wrote: ... Asha's little mission to save Theon goes down as more pointless filler. How are they finding time for pointless filler when they have so much other material that they are forced to condense? ... This is so weird. But some how I don't think they will be making her character part of the story just for the shock of her dying. I was wondering if they might not have mance going to save "Sansa", and instead Asha can save her and Theon somehow. It's kinda far fetched I know, but I just want there to be some reason we have to keep Asha in mind. That or she has some other important actions in TWoW that we don't know of yet. | ||
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