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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 22:58:04
April 28 2014 22:53 GMT
#9281
I don't think I could ever hold that point of view. Wanting something faster rather than wanting it to be good is a mindfuck to me.

WoW - 2018, DoS - 2025. Half-Life 3 - 2033. Woohoo!

On April 29 2014 07:45 unkkz wrote:
Really liked how the other that took the baby looked. Before they have looked like some kind of barbarian savages, which is never how i imagined them. I imagined them as some snowy, icy, gracious creatures with armor. The dead horse also looked just the way i think it should look. A definite improvement from their previous appearances tbh.

Can anyone tell the armor the other is wearing while he rides? I think there might be a clue there, it looks familiar and you can spot a symbol on his chest.


On the appearance, I don't think they look meaningfully different from before. Wearing a lot more rags, sure, but still the same idea. Maybe you are thinking of the descriptions in the books? In the books they are Lich King, in the show they are Zeratul on Ice.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 28 2014 23:09 GMT
#9282
On April 29 2014 07:40 Hyperbola wrote:
You know what? Fuck the book. I want this show to overtake it. I want this show to finish the series before winds of winter even comes out. I don't care if its "not canon." I like the TV series and I like the new developments that its making. From my point of view it cuts out a lot of fluff by combining characters and moving plots rapidly.

I can't understand how anyone who read the books can think that way tbh^^
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 23:52:11
April 28 2014 23:51 GMT
#9283
On April 29 2014 08:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 07:40 Hyperbola wrote:
You know what? Fuck the book. I want this show to overtake it. I want this show to finish the series before winds of winter even comes out. I don't care if its "not canon." I like the TV series and I like the new developments that its making. From my point of view it cuts out a lot of fluff by combining characters and moving plots rapidly.

I can't understand how anyone who read the books can think that way tbh^^

Because AFFC-ADWD downtime.

Also AFFuckingC.

All I want now is for show watchers to suffer the Dany arc.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12680 Posts
April 29 2014 00:03 GMT
#9284
The night king appearance can also be a hint of the next books content since it might be released soon.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-29 00:25:06
April 29 2014 00:14 GMT
#9285
On April 29 2014 09:03 ETisME wrote:
The night king appearance can also be a hint of the next books content since it might be released soon.

I think they revised the name already, so it's probably a spoiler. for the bookreaders.

and o-shit, that last scene. TV overtaking books already!

Anyways, I can now make liberal use of ser pounce jokes memes truths.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
kidleaderr
Profile Joined April 2013
365 Posts
April 29 2014 00:50 GMT
#9286
On April 29 2014 08:51 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 08:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 29 2014 07:40 Hyperbola wrote:
You know what? Fuck the book. I want this show to overtake it. I want this show to finish the series before winds of winter even comes out. I don't care if its "not canon." I like the TV series and I like the new developments that its making. From my point of view it cuts out a lot of fluff by combining characters and moving plots rapidly.

I can't understand how anyone who read the books can think that way tbh^^

Because AFFC-ADWD downtime.

Also AFFuckingC.

All I want now is for show watchers to suffer the Dany arc.


You sure sound like a fun person to be around.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
April 29 2014 01:38 GMT
#9287
DID WE JUST GET SPOILERED BY THE TV SHOW???

Seriously, wtf... I am not very fond of the show changing some smaller things from the books, but getting book spoilers from the tv show is fucking ridiculous.

Please someone tell me I am just not remembering the books very well and the baby+white-walker-lord-guy was in the books.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 29 2014 01:54 GMT
#9288
Nope, it wasn't.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 29 2014 02:01 GMT
#9289
That was probably the prologue from TWOW.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
April 29 2014 02:13 GMT
#9290
I honestly don't think the ending (strictly the reveal of Night's King) is such a big deal lol.

It's been subtly implied, and makes sense I guess.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43565 Posts
April 29 2014 02:43 GMT
#9291
Coldhands was theorised to be the Night King. Was once a member of the watch, is older than the old child of the forest, "your monster, Brandon Stark" and so forth.
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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-29 03:30:20
April 29 2014 03:18 GMT
#9292
All talk of White Walkers aside, I'm starting to get the feeling that the show is deliberately rushing past most of Dany's...complications.

They certainly had enough screentime to show how the evil, evil Thenns massacred/ate hamlets and mutineers drink wine from Mormont's skull while raping people. But the looting, pillaging, raping, and murder that happened for days after the siege of Mereen was omitted, even though it's plot-critical to the nature of the book-spanning insurgency against her.

Even the crucifixion of the 163 Masters was covered in brief, with Dany giving a one-liner to voice her thoughts on the matter.


....actually, I believe they even omitted Dany's "kill everyone above the age of 12 wearing a tokar or holding a whip" thing way back from Astapor. Show Dany may walk on water yet this season.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-29 03:43:24
April 29 2014 03:25 GMT
#9293
On April 29 2014 10:38 fabiano wrote:
DID WE JUST GET SPOILERED BY THE TV SHOW???

Seriously, wtf... I am not very fond of the show changing some smaller things from the books, but getting book spoilers from the tv show is fucking ridiculous.

Please someone tell me I am just not remembering the books very well and the baby+white-walker-lord-guy was in the books.

You do realize the last season of this show, at the least, will be covering all unwritten material, yes?
edit: this is why I'm glad they gave us a morsel of this. There is a truckload to come.

Show is getting done halfway through the story before GRRM finishes one book -- get used to the idea that the story is no longer all going to come strictly from the books first. How much the show and books end up diverging may be a different matter, but I think it's a really safe bet that much of the story is going to concluded -- and many secrets revealed -- on TV before the books.

I think it's interesting. Something kind of new. I get that it offends people that literature of such length and depth is being so closely developed with a TV series... but at the same time, it's not impacting the novels. GRRM is still going to do his thing.

HBO couldn't exactly wait for GRRM to finish the novels before electing to adapt his series, because GRRM was shopping the series (or movies, which wouldve been awful) to other networks. He wasn't pulled into this "predicament", he initiated it.
Big water
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
April 29 2014 09:22 GMT
#9294
this is such sweet karmic retribution for all the book readers who spoiled stuff and talked about the series like they were better than show watchers, every fking episode will have some random spoilers for shit now and itll be confusing as fuck because you're not even sure if its legit or not. its only gonna get worse too in seasons 5 6 7.

like them showing ser pounce in that margaery tommen scene makes me think arya will kill him with the dog madness substance jaquen used to kill weese in the books. that long look from barristan as dany crucifies the masters makes me think she will eventually go mad in the books. etc.

TWOW pleaseeee
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 29 2014 09:31 GMT
#9295
On April 29 2014 18:22 Hot_Bid wrote:
this is such sweet karmic retribution for all the book readers who spoiled stuff and talked about the series like they were better than show watchers, every fking episode will have some random spoilers for shit now and itll be confusing as fuck because you're not even sure if its legit or not. its only gonna get worse too in seasons 5 6 7.

like them showing ser pounce in that margaery tommen scene makes me think arya will kill him with the dog madness substance jaquen used to kill weese in the books. that long look from barristan as dany crucifies the masters makes me think she will eventually go mad in the books. etc.

TWOW pleaseeee


I mean when will it end?! I might not even buy the next book at this point. I was really looking forward to the Ser Pounce storyline.
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 29 2014 09:58 GMT
#9296
I am only sad about this reveal because it destroys my theory that Melissandre and Stannis will play a part in downfall of the Wall and what happens afterwards when the Others go south.
My theory is that Melissandre is going to cause the Wall to collapse and Stannis would become the leader of the Others.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-29 10:42:58
April 29 2014 10:39 GMT
#9297
I know it wasn't spelled out in the books but to me the white walker scene was no surprise whatsoever. What else would be so important to the Others that they leave Craster alone for it? Human babies tasty snack?
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Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 29 2014 11:12 GMT
#9298
On April 29 2014 19:39 Monsen wrote:
I know it wasn't spelled out in the books but to me the white walker scene was no surprise whatsoever. What else would be so important to the Others that they leave Craster alone for it? Human babies tasty snack?

Maybe as some sacrifice? Or Craster has some king blood from way back and his babies blood was good for their magic.
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1546 Posts
April 29 2014 11:19 GMT
#9299
Benjen stark is the new Night's King is my cracked-pot theory after watching that episode! The original Night's King was a Stark but was beheaded and now we see an Other with a crown who is referred to seemingly accidentally as the Night's King, can't be the same one (unless his execution was a lie).

On April 29 2014 18:22 Hot_Bid wrote:
like them showing ser pounce in that margaery tommen scene makes me think arya will kill him with the dog madness substance jaquen used to kill weese in the books.

You think Arya will kill Tommen? I definitely don't see that. There are links between them with Arya chasing the one eyed cat which is probably the same cat that bother Tommen in ADwD, but I don't see Arya wanting to kill him.
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
April 29 2014 12:39 GMT
#9300
I really think it is an absurd to have the series spoil the books. No offense to those who preffer the TV show, but to me the books are much deeper and much more enjoyable, since nothing is rushed, we get more details and inside each characters head.

Now I'm not sure if I should keep watching or if I just wait yet another year for the release of the book. Even not watching the show the chances I'm going to get spoiled by the Internet, be it on 9gag or some random dude joke on some random blog/site/forum post/comics is so high that one might become paranoid.

I've never spoiled the show to anyone anywhere, even refused to hint anything to my friends who came over asking stuff... I feel kind of betrayed now. I know that in the last episode the spoiler was minimal, as many said it was hinted in the books, but this opens a precedent for future events, and the longer the show goes, the higher are the chances we will get major spoilers that might ruin the book series...

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