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On April 22 2013 20:46 unkkz wrote: They cannot skip Sam killing a whitewalker. Because atm Sam is what this guy says, pretty useless. He's done nothing really, he's like Lori from the walking dead. Not a fair comparison... Lori killed some zombies from time to time.
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On April 22 2013 16:49 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 16:43 Hoodlum wrote: Do you think that Tyrion - Sansa union will be cut from the show? It's a lot of detail for little reward but it's one of my favorite wtf moments in the book. Since the wheels to marry Sansa to Loras are already in motion, they have to go through with the Tyrion - Sansa union in order to get her on the boat with LF. The question is who is gonna be the one who snitches to Tywin about the Tyrell plans?
Probably Varys himself. After all, his goal is to cause chaos and disalliance between Lannisters and Tyrells. He doesn't give a fuck about Sansa's well-being, as long as he can keep her out of Littlefinger's hands, which I'm assuming he assumed Lannisters would accomplish.
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On April 22 2013 21:10 Doctorbeat wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Is this foreshadowing? Scarf around her neck etc? Very good catch there. After all he can see the future in his dreams etc. Pretty sure this is intentional.
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On April 22 2013 23:17 GhostLink wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 16:49 sc2holar wrote:On April 22 2013 16:43 Hoodlum wrote: Do you think that Tyrion - Sansa union will be cut from the show? It's a lot of detail for little reward but it's one of my favorite wtf moments in the book. Since the wheels to marry Sansa to Loras are already in motion, they have to go through with the Tyrion - Sansa union in order to get her on the boat with LF. The question is who is gonna be the one who snitches to Tywin about the Tyrell plans? Probably Varys himself. After all, his goal is to cause chaos and disalliance between Lannisters and Tyrells. He doesn't give a fuck about Sansa's well-being, as long as he can keep her out of Littlefinger's hands, which I'm assuming he assumed Lannisters would accomplish.
They don't even have to have a snitch.
The Bolton-Frey plot could have been hatched already (letters from this ep), and thus Tywin would have the knowledge that Sansa would be heir soon. Seeing her so close to Margaery Cersei tells Tywin she fears they might take her to Highgarden, and thusTywin marries her to Tyrion.
I do really hope that Tywin will bust out Cersei's marriage plans too. It would (re-)introduce a few characters that will have screen time (Balon/Oberyn+random heir at Highgarden), and it's another push closer to the edge of madness.
Really curious what they're going to do with Varys' sorcerer though. Anyone got ideas?
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On April 22 2013 23:17 GhostLink wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 16:49 sc2holar wrote:On April 22 2013 16:43 Hoodlum wrote: Do you think that Tyrion - Sansa union will be cut from the show? It's a lot of detail for little reward but it's one of my favorite wtf moments in the book. Since the wheels to marry Sansa to Loras are already in motion, they have to go through with the Tyrion - Sansa union in order to get her on the boat with LF. The question is who is gonna be the one who snitches to Tywin about the Tyrell plans? Probably Varys himself. After all, his goal is to cause chaos and disalliance between Lannisters and Tyrells. He doesn't give a fuck about Sansa's well-being, as long as he can keep her out of Littlefinger's hands, which I'm assuming he assumed Lannisters would accomplish. It will probably still be Littlefinger who tells Tywin. I don't see why they would change that.
Is Loras not a kingsguard yet in the show?
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On April 23 2013 00:27 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 23:17 GhostLink wrote:On April 22 2013 16:49 sc2holar wrote:On April 22 2013 16:43 Hoodlum wrote: Do you think that Tyrion - Sansa union will be cut from the show? It's a lot of detail for little reward but it's one of my favorite wtf moments in the book. Since the wheels to marry Sansa to Loras are already in motion, they have to go through with the Tyrion - Sansa union in order to get her on the boat with LF. The question is who is gonna be the one who snitches to Tywin about the Tyrell plans? Probably Varys himself. After all, his goal is to cause chaos and disalliance between Lannisters and Tyrells. He doesn't give a fuck about Sansa's well-being, as long as he can keep her out of Littlefinger's hands, which I'm assuming he assumed Lannisters would accomplish. It will probably still be Littlefinger who tells Tywin. I don't see why they would change that. Is Loras not a kingsguard yet in the show?
Not yet.
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On April 22 2013 23:29 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 23:17 GhostLink wrote:On April 22 2013 16:49 sc2holar wrote:On April 22 2013 16:43 Hoodlum wrote: Do you think that Tyrion - Sansa union will be cut from the show? It's a lot of detail for little reward but it's one of my favorite wtf moments in the book. Since the wheels to marry Sansa to Loras are already in motion, they have to go through with the Tyrion - Sansa union in order to get her on the boat with LF. The question is who is gonna be the one who snitches to Tywin about the Tyrell plans? Probably Varys himself. After all, his goal is to cause chaos and disalliance between Lannisters and Tyrells. He doesn't give a fuck about Sansa's well-being, as long as he can keep her out of Littlefinger's hands, which I'm assuming he assumed Lannisters would accomplish. They don't even have to have a snitch. The Bolton-Frey plot could have been hatched already (letters from this ep), and thus Tywin would have the knowledge that Sansa would be heir soon. Seeing her so close to Margaery Cersei tells Tywin she fears they might take her to Highgarden, and thusTywin marries her to Tyrion. I do really hope that Tywin will bust out Cersei's marriage plans too. It would (re-)introduce a few characters that will have screen time (Balon/Oberyn+random heir at Highgarden), and it's another push closer to the edge of madness. Really curious what they're going to do with Varys' sorcerer though. Anyone got ideas? Nothing. Pretty sure he was just there to underscore Varis' point and we will never see him again.
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On April 22 2013 14:34 daemir wrote: Good god the Theon scenes, too marvelous
I definitely enjoy their inclusion. It's going to make all the Reek scenes more impactful having all this development going on.
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I like how Varys just has a guy locked in a box in his room
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On April 23 2013 00:34 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 00:27 risk.nuke wrote:On April 22 2013 23:17 GhostLink wrote:On April 22 2013 16:49 sc2holar wrote:On April 22 2013 16:43 Hoodlum wrote: Do you think that Tyrion - Sansa union will be cut from the show? It's a lot of detail for little reward but it's one of my favorite wtf moments in the book. Since the wheels to marry Sansa to Loras are already in motion, they have to go through with the Tyrion - Sansa union in order to get her on the boat with LF. The question is who is gonna be the one who snitches to Tywin about the Tyrell plans? Probably Varys himself. After all, his goal is to cause chaos and disalliance between Lannisters and Tyrells. He doesn't give a fuck about Sansa's well-being, as long as he can keep her out of Littlefinger's hands, which I'm assuming he assumed Lannisters would accomplish. It will probably still be Littlefinger who tells Tywin. I don't see why they would change that. Is Loras not a kingsguard yet in the show? Not yet. This'll actually tie together quite nicely. Instead of just forcing the marriage, Cercei will likely force their hand by adding Loras to the Kingsguard as soon as she hears about the arrangement, and then suggesting Tyrion as a suitable replacement.
Speaking of the Kingsguard, have we seen the Kettleblacks yet? I can't remember them being introduced if they were.
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After watching the ending about 10 times, the only thing that sticks out to me is how non-hot the dragon flames are, compared to the books.
In the books, I recall very clearly that the slaver's face melted off. Dragon flame also melts fucking stone (i.e Harrenhall), so clearly it's much much hotter than what's being shown.
I'll just assume that it's because the dragons are still very young
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On April 23 2013 01:05 Z-BosoN wrote: After watching the ending about 10 times, the only thing that sticks out to me is how non-hot the dragon flames are, compared to the books.
In the books, I recall very clearly that the slaver's face melted off. Dragon flame also melts fucking stone (i.e Harrenhall), so clearly it's much much hotter than what's being shown.
I'll just assume that it's because the dragons are still very young Also I'm probably sure that it's easier to animate a dude on fire than his flesh searing off his face.
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^ Urgh. Why you do that?
About the Kettleblacks, i doubt they will be introduced before Season 4. I don't think the whole Kings Landing drama will show any sooner then that. Even in the books. Both of them were only tools of the Queen that were hardly mentioned before Cersei/Margaery catfighting. And in the movies, the Kings Guard is nothing more but those guys in golden plate armor. We don't know their name, nor their character.
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wow didn't expect the dany scene to be so good. well done
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I'm following the Theon arc with excitement! Will be interesting to see how the writers flesh it out with more of an actual storyline, instead of just torture porn into Reek which most of Theon's involvement until ADWD actually consists of . They're doing a great job so far.
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I really hope they include flashbacks to Harrenhall tournament in one of the future episodes, either through Jojens narrative or a fully dedicated episode to past events. I think it's such a major event that gives a lot of backstory to current events in Westeros, and right now the viewers who didn't read the books know very little about who Rhaegar was, what Lyanna meant to him, how this will tie into Jon Snows possible 'destiny' etc.
And I would love to see Ned Stark and Howland Reed going against Ser Gerold Hightower, the White bulld, and Arthur Dayne, the Morning sword.
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Oh god, the non-spoiler thread on TL is dreadful. From the "non-spoiler" thread:
On April 23 2013 00:16 Bowzar wrote: My theory is that he was killed and was ressurected by the priest. He says they are all ghosts, he has a scar on his throat, the part about anyone would be a believer if they saw what they have seen and we all know what the red ladys god is capable of. I am sure half of the people posting in that thread have read the books and now want to have their dicks stroked. It's pathetic.
What is up with the guy in Varys' box? Was is just to show that Varys is a badass? It's been a while since I read the books.
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On April 23 2013 02:01 Dyme wrote:Oh god, the non-spoiler thread on TL is dreadful. From the "non-spoiler" thread: Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 00:16 Bowzar wrote: My theory is that he was killed and was ressurected by the priest. He says they are all ghosts, he has a scar on his throat, the part about anyone would be a believer if they saw what they have seen and we all know what the red ladys god is capable of. I am sure half of the people posting in that thread have read the books and now want to have their dicks stroked. It's pathetic. What is up with the guy in Varys' box? Was is just to show that Varys is a badass? It's been a while since I read the books. It does help to report posts like that. So far that guy has guessed literally everything right. The Bolton bastard, Jorah's spying on Dany biting him in the ass later on, Thoros reviving people. I mean, wtf, they never even hinted that this would even be a possibility..
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@ Dyme Zatic specifically asked us readers, to not make this thread a moderation discussion of the non-spoiler thread, PM him or use the report function. That thread is full of trolls, i reported one, might do some more, though i m itching to just caps scream at the poor bastards to LEAVE THIS THREAD AND DONT READ ANYTHING ANYWHERE, if you re a non-reader.
@Doctorbeat Oberyn will only come next season, the heir to high-garden wont be introduced at all, nor Galen i think. Balon, i think he's not in this season, they might have scrapped him altogether, or bring him up only next season and tell about his death. Stannis doesnt mention him when he talks to Mellisandre, only Joeff and Robb, makes me think they are saving his death for next season, so the kraken inner-struggle would be more understandable.
@Requizen I dont think Cercei could "force" Loras into the Kingsguard, he's loyal to his house, once the Sansa match gets canceled, i imagine he will join. Or maybe when Joeff dies, he'll say he cant leave Margery unprotected and then he joins
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