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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
April 08 2013 06:28 GMT
#4941
I really hope they don't abandon the bear song...

Only other complaint is that they made the Brienne-Jaime duel too one-sided.
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
April 08 2013 06:32 GMT
#4942
On April 08 2013 15:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I really hope they don't abandon the bear song...

Only other complaint is that they made the Brienne-Jaime duel too one-sided.


episode 7 is named "The Bear and the Maiden Fair," so that's something.
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
April 08 2013 06:45 GMT
#4943
I was a little disappointed by the portrayal of Thoros of Myr. I always pictured him as sort of fat for some reason. Other than that though this episode was pretty awesome! The actor that plays Joffrey is fantastically casted. He conveys the feeling of stubborn childishness that Joffrey always had in the books very well. The scene between Joffrey and Margaery was pretty cool too
Enhancer_
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 07:02:40
April 08 2013 07:00 GMT
#4944
Casting:
- Thoros seems too much like a friendly uncle than a crazy red priest who brings people back to life.
- Queen of Thorns is pretty spot on
- Jojen is perfect. Gives off the other-wordly vibes you'd expect from a greenseer
- Meera is cool. Not enough lines to really judge yet

An interesting episode I thought with all the changes that had to be made. When Jojen was talking about his father and the rebellion I wanted so much for him to speak of Ned and Howland's trip to the Tower of Joy since they skipped that in the first season... I really hope it's brought up at some point.

The bit where Catelyn speaks about her relationship with Jon seemed kind of strange and out of place.

Karstark telling Robb how he fucked up horribly was good. Wonder when Robb will messily take his head now.

Jaime completely destroyed Renly.

I don't yet feel sorry for Theon at all, but I look forward to how that develops. The guy is a great actor with the most dynamic character of the series.

Tyrion/Shae scene was completely terrible. Shae sucks.
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
April 08 2013 07:27 GMT
#4945
I'm really intrigued to see where they're going with Theon this season. The lengths that Ramsay will go to to fuck with him...
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 07:42:38
April 08 2013 07:39 GMT
#4946
Wow, this episode was so good!
I'm so glad they are doing the Ramsay-twist, or something similar to it anyways. And it looks like they are willing to do something with Jon's warging ability, possibly being instructed by this Orell person. (i guess Varymyr is cut)
And Cercei and Jaime and Tyrion added lines were also awesome. Lady Olenna is true to her book-self so great job there too.
Cat's too for a change, surprising.

Thoros really doesnt look like the Thoros i imagined, but oh well, at least they didnt cut the BWW as i feared in season 2. And they cast Archer too, so no reason to complain.

Overall, i'm very happy, gj D&D.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
April 08 2013 07:54 GMT
#4947
On April 08 2013 16:39 Geo.Rion wrote:
Wow, this episode was so good!
I'm so glad they are doing the Ramsay-twist, or something similar to it anyways. And it looks like they are willing to do something with Jon's warging ability, possibly being instructed by this Orell person. (i guess Varymyr is cut)
And Cercei and Jaime and Tyrion added lines were also awesome. Lady Olenna is true to her book-self so great job there too.
Cat's too for a change, surprising.

Thoros really doesnt look like the Thoros i imagined, but oh well, at least they didnt cut the BWW as i feared in season 2. And they cast Archer too, so no reason to complain.

Overall, i'm very happy, gj D&D.


Yea, Thoros was weird for me too. I pictured him as a jaded and gaunt old priest who always has this kinda wispy look, thinking about better days kinda thing.
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
April 08 2013 08:54 GMT
#4948
Fuck Ramsay looks so promising. When he said to Theon he was sent by his sister to rescue him it gave me chills. Perfect characterization.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
April 08 2013 10:15 GMT
#4949
Strong episode, very good adaptation. Catelyn scene felt a bit questionable. Why would she open up to a girl like that, when the girl has undermined a lot of her scheming by fooling her boy? Just seems out of character.
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
April 08 2013 10:32 GMT
#4950
Orell was the guy that had a grudge with John from day 1 if I remember correctly? So I'm hoping we still get Varamyr.
Cat and John's wife scene was out of place and stupid for me. NO more of those please.
No Dany was lame, so I guess they'll butcher her schemes for selling the dragons which will be stupid if they really do.
The Theon- Ramsay relationship looks so promising I can't wait to see them develop further.
The Reed's and Queen of thorns chars look pretty much as how I imagined them.
Tyrion scenes were a stupid filler and I'm saying this when he's one of my favourite book characters.
The Bolton soldier who's replacing the goat is a stupid change for me, why can't we have Vargo instead???
The hound in the books wouldn't have pointed out in front of the whole brotherhood that that was Arya Stark, I facepalmed so hard during that scene.
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
April 08 2013 10:49 GMT
#4951
The hound was however under the impression that they knew it was Arya.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 12:28:56
April 08 2013 12:24 GMT
#4952
On April 08 2013 17:54 dmnum wrote:
Fuck Ramsay looks so promising. When he said to Theon he was sent by his sister to rescue him it gave me chills. Perfect characterization.
Wait, that was Ramsay?

Anyway, very good episode. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Joffrey cracks me up every time! They've found the absolute perfect actor for him.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 08 2013 12:30 GMT
#4953
On April 08 2013 19:32 pred470r wrote:
Orell was the guy that had a grudge with John from day 1 if I remember correctly? So I'm hoping we still get Varamyr.
Cat and John's wife scene was out of place and stupid for me. NO more of those please.
No Dany was lame, so I guess they'll butcher her schemes for selling the dragons which will be stupid if they really do.
The Theon- Ramsay relationship looks so promising I can't wait to see them develop further.
The Reed's and Queen of thorns chars look pretty much as how I imagined them.
Tyrion scenes were a stupid filler and I'm saying this when he's one of my favourite book characters.
The Bolton soldier who's replacing the goat is a stupid change for me, why can't we have Vargo instead???
The hound in the books wouldn't have pointed out in front of the whole brotherhood that that was Arya Stark, I facepalmed so hard during that scene.

The goat needs his thapphireth and the show needs the goat. And the zebras.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 12:34:45
April 08 2013 12:34 GMT
#4954
On April 08 2013 21:24 Thorakh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 17:54 dmnum wrote:
Fuck Ramsay looks so promising. When he said to Theon he was sent by his sister to rescue him it gave me chills. Perfect characterization.
Wait, that was Ramsay?

Yes, that was Iwan Rheon(The actor who's playing Ramsay).
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 13:47:37
April 08 2013 13:13 GMT
#4955
On April 08 2013 16:00 Enhancer_ wrote:

Tyrion/Shae scene was completely terrible. Shae sucks.


Well, Tyrion is paying for her to do it... :p


okay that Cat - Jon part was just weird
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 08 2013 13:46 GMT
#4956
On April 08 2013 13:11 slyboogie wrote:
I think the meaning of the scene was to give us some deeper insight into the two characters. That Joffery's sado-sexual personality traits continue to develop in such "weapon-as-phallus" ways is...............consistent. It also reveals that character trait to Margarey and she is shown to be savvy - though I don't know how the actress was trying to sell that scene: disgusted or aroused or whateves.

Was I the only one who thought the scene was foreshadowing Margaery/the Tyrells killing Joffrey? I mean, she's pointed the crossbow right at the mirror with him standing right next to her, talking about whether she is capable of killing things..
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
April 08 2013 13:56 GMT
#4957
Yes that was definitely a reference to the purple wedding.

There was some foreshadowing also when Lord Karstark said to Robb that he was fucked the moment he married the girl.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 14:13:19
April 08 2013 14:12 GMT
#4958
On April 08 2013 19:32 pred470r wrote:
Orell was the guy that had a grudge with John from day 1 if I remember correctly? So I'm hoping we still get Varamyr.

Orell was the skinchanger that Jon killed when he first met Ygritte in the books. His spirit went into the eagle and he later attacked and scarred Jon's face. I think they used him instead of Varamyr because it's easier to film an eagle than it is to have 3 wolves, a shadow cat and a giant snow bear big enough to ride.

On April 08 2013 19:32 pred470r wrote:
Cat and John's wife scene was out of place and stupid for me. NO more of those please.

Robb's wife, not Jon's, but I agree. It was a silly change to make Catelyn literally say she felt like Jon's mother. It was acted well enough, but it was pretty long for a scene that provided contradictory information to the books and didn't really further the story at all. So many book scenes have to be cut due to lack of time for them to make up scenes that don't belong. Same with the Joffrey/Cersei scene where he is getting fitted for new clothes.

On April 08 2013 19:32 pred470r wrote:
No Dany was lame, so I guess they'll butcher her schemes for selling the dragons which will be stupid if they really do.

Can't have every character every episode. No Arya, Jaime and Brienne or Theon last episode. No Stannis/Davos, Tywin, Varys, Littlefinger or Dany this episode.

Tyrion scenes were a stupid filler and I'm saying this when he's one of my favourite book characters.

I have never liked the show portrayal of Shae, and her character just continues to get more out there. She isn't that mad at Tyrion for admitting he slept with Ros twice, but gets pissed that he says Sansa is pretty? I guess they are setting up his marriage to Sansa as the reason Shae will betray him. Shae as Sansa's guardian angel is also something I'm not a fan of.

The Bolton soldier who's replacing the goat is a stupid change for me, why can't we have Vargo instead???

I've heard rumors that they feared back lash from the UK for making fun of people with speech impediments. Apparently there was a big deal made out of making fun of speech impediments in the past year: http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/need-to-read/2012/05/04/making-fun-of-roy-hodgson-s-speech-impediment-is-unacceptable-say-campaigners-91466-30897098/
Plus they would have to explain who he was and why he was working for Bolton. It is a shame to lose the Bloody Mummers though, and it will be interesting to see how they deal with Jaime losing his hand. Hard to believe Bolton would be able to ally with the Lannisters if his bannerman did the deed.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 08 2013 14:41 GMT
#4959
On April 08 2013 23:12 karazax wrote:

Show nested quote +
The Bolton soldier who's replacing the goat is a stupid change for me, why can't we have Vargo instead???

I've heard rumors that they feared back lash from the UK for making fun of people with speech impediments. Apparently there was a big deal made out of making fun of speech impediments in the past year: http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/need-to-read/2012/05/04/making-fun-of-roy-hodgson-s-speech-impediment-is-unacceptable-say-campaigners-91466-30897098/
Plus they would have to explain who he was and why he was working for Bolton. It is a shame to lose the Bloody Mummers though, and it will be interesting to see how they deal with Jaime losing his hand. Hard to believe Bolton would be able to ally with the Lannisters if his bannerman did the deed.


Yeah, that change intrigued me quite a bit. The other changes are either inconsequential or we can easily see how the story can merge back into what's written in the books. I have a feeling we're in for a few more twists in Jaime's storyline.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
April 08 2013 15:26 GMT
#4960
What was the deal with that Cat scene? (Everyone in the spoiler-free thread seems to have liked it)
I thought I remember a similar scene from the books where Cat laments wishing death upon Jon as a child, but I don't ever remember her saying she felt like his mother.
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