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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
April 01 2013 07:28 GMT
#4701
There's too much simplistic complain about changes from the books. I'm really annoyed by many reactions from book fanatics who don't understand how tv shows work. The only justified criticism is about the opening scene. Mance introduction can go either way, let's see how they build him up before hating that he's no bard. Apart from that this is a brilliant adaption from the book. Thank god they didn't fall for a Arstan Trap, that clearly doesn't work in visual media.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 08:13:09
April 01 2013 07:57 GMT
#4702
Just watched it, here s my +/-s:

+ Costumes are really good this season as well
+ More screentime for Margery
+ Bronn is a fcking BAMF
+ Tyrion-Tywinn scene freakin amazing

+/- I knew they will change Mance, and his minstrel aspect will be cut, which is a big minus for me, since i absolutely loved the Drnishman's wife part, but i knew this wont be adapted, and i think they did a good job of replacing it.

- Dumbed down barristan's arc very badly... and the scene isnt even shot very well. K, i get it, cool snake-demon baby, whatever... It was supposued to be the one big revelation of this episode and it didnt deliver, at all.
- Roose Bolton looks scared/shocked when they walk into Harrenhall... really?
- Why title the episode Valar Dohaeris and not show Arya at all? I know, Selmy and Tyrion and the night's watch have to serve, and that aspect was emphasized here, but still
- Didnt like the Sansa scene, almost as long as any other, and nothing happens, but LF says exactly what he wants to do like he always does in the show.... Why was Dontos even introduced?

Also, i found it funny when Cercei said " I heard they cut your nose" :D alittle jape just for us, readers
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
April 01 2013 08:22 GMT
#4703
On April 01 2013 11:04 Xxio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 10:55 Iranon wrote:
On April 01 2013 09:04 Darthsanta13 wrote:
Red wedding was in the second half of the book, are you sure they're doing it this season? I know they're breaking this book into two seasons.


Wikipedia has the episode titles for all of season 3. Episode 9 is titled "The Rains of Castamere". I can't imagine that not being the RW. Also, episode 7 is titled "The Bear and the Maiden Fair", so I guess we know when the bear fight is happening too. Also also, tsk tsk at TheToaster. I'm not going to get all high and mighty and say I don't pirate things, but it's frowned upon on TL.


G.R.R. said that the RW will be in the last episode.

Source?
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 09:02:22
April 01 2013 08:30 GMT
#4704
On April 01 2013 17:22 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 11:04 Xxio wrote:
On April 01 2013 10:55 Iranon wrote:
On April 01 2013 09:04 Darthsanta13 wrote:
Red wedding was in the second half of the book, are you sure they're doing it this season? I know they're breaking this book into two seasons.


Wikipedia has the episode titles for all of season 3. Episode 9 is titled "The Rains of Castamere". I can't imagine that not being the RW. Also, episode 7 is titled "The Bear and the Maiden Fair", so I guess we know when the bear fight is happening too. Also also, tsk tsk at TheToaster. I'm not going to get all high and mighty and say I don't pirate things, but it's frowned upon on TL.


G.R.R. said that the RW will be in the last episode.

Source?


Well there's this: http://screencrush.com/game-of-thrones-season-3-red-wedding/

Sounds about right. iirc That event occurs about midway through the book and its the absolute best thing you could possibly have for a finale based on material from SoS.

Can't blame him ;; , I didn't think it was possible to top Eddard's death in shocking me nor pissing me off but he did it..

Reading the shitstorm in the other thread will be fun though, teheehee
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sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
April 01 2013 08:35 GMT
#4705
I have been thinking alot about Jamies upcoming mutiliation and how its going to happen. Since the Brave Companions have been written out of the TV-series, i guess the only Option left is that Rob himself orders for his sword-hand to be cut off to send a message to the lannisters, and then when Robb leaves harrenhal Roose sets jamie free and sets up the scheming for the RW.

i kinda like this change, it will give a lot more dramatic emphasis to the "Jamie Lannister sends his regards" line
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 01 2013 08:38 GMT
#4706
On April 01 2013 17:35 sc2holar wrote:
I have been thinking alot about Jamies upcoming mutiliation and how its going to happen. Since the Brave Companions have been written out of the TV-series, i guess the only Option left is that Rob himself orders for his sword-hand to be cut off to send a message to the lannisters, and then when Robb leaves harrenhal Roose sets jamie free and sets up the scheming for the RW.

i kinda like this change, it will give a lot more dramatic emphasis to the "Jamie Lannister sends his regards" line

were they written out? That s now what i heard. We already met Quibrun, though, yeh, he s not with the Companion, or so it seems
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
April 01 2013 08:39 GMT
#4707
Natalie Dormer is godlike..
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
April 01 2013 08:40 GMT
#4708
Meeting Qyburn was soooo unexpected; I guess he's gonna betray them at some point : S.
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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
April 01 2013 08:44 GMT
#4709
On April 01 2013 17:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 17:22 okum wrote:
On April 01 2013 11:04 Xxio wrote:
On April 01 2013 10:55 Iranon wrote:
On April 01 2013 09:04 Darthsanta13 wrote:
Red wedding was in the second half of the book, are you sure they're doing it this season? I know they're breaking this book into two seasons.


Wikipedia has the episode titles for all of season 3. Episode 9 is titled "The Rains of Castamere". I can't imagine that not being the RW. Also, episode 7 is titled "The Bear and the Maiden Fair", so I guess we know when the bear fight is happening too. Also also, tsk tsk at TheToaster. I'm not going to get all high and mighty and say I don't pirate things, but it's frowned upon on TL.


G.R.R. said that the RW will be in the last episode.

Source?


Well there's this: http://screencrush.com/game-of-thrones-season-3-red-wedding/

Sounds about right. iirc That event occurs about midway through the book and its the absolute best thing you could possibly have for a finale based on material from SoW.

Can't blame him ;; , I didn't think it was possible to top Eddard's death in shocking me nor pissing me off but he did it..

Reading the shitstorm in the other thread will be fun though, teheehee

Yes, it's clear (from many sources) that the RW will be in this season, but where did GRRM say that it will be in episode 10 specifically?
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 08:52:54
April 01 2013 08:48 GMT
#4710
On April 01 2013 17:38 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 17:35 sc2holar wrote:
I have been thinking alot about Jamies upcoming mutiliation and how its going to happen. Since the Brave Companions have been written out of the TV-series, i guess the only Option left is that Rob himself orders for his sword-hand to be cut off to send a message to the lannisters, and then when Robb leaves harrenhal Roose sets jamie free and sets up the scheming for the RW.

i kinda like this change, it will give a lot more dramatic emphasis to the "Jamie Lannister sends his regards" line

were they written out? That s now what i heard. We already met Quibrun, though, yeh, he s not with the Companion, or so it seems

Vargo Hoat is not included in the TV-Series, afaik. And since Roose now holds harrenhall from the start, they dont really serve a purpose.

Did anyone else get a slight vibe that Roose was refering to Ramsay when he said that he had sent his best "Hunter" out for Jamie?
you no take candle
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 08:53:28
April 01 2013 08:52 GMT
#4711
On April 01 2013 17:40 tshi wrote:
Meeting Qyburn was soooo unexpected; I guess he's gonna betray them at some point : S.

My bet is that Rob will have Jamies hand cut off and send it as a message to the Lannisters. Then Qyburn will keep him alive (perhaps with Talisas aid) and once Rob leaves Harrenhall, Roose will send Jamie to Kings landing to discuss the RW scheme, and send Qyburn with him to mend his wound.
you no take candle
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 01 2013 08:55 GMT
#4712
On April 01 2013 17:48 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 17:38 Geo.Rion wrote:
On April 01 2013 17:35 sc2holar wrote:
I have been thinking alot about Jamies upcoming mutiliation and how its going to happen. Since the Brave Companions have been written out of the TV-series, i guess the only Option left is that Rob himself orders for his sword-hand to be cut off to send a message to the lannisters, and then when Robb leaves harrenhal Roose sets jamie free and sets up the scheming for the RW.

i kinda like this change, it will give a lot more dramatic emphasis to the "Jamie Lannister sends his regards" line

were they written out? That s now what i heard. We already met Quibrun, though, yeh, he s not with the Companion, or so it seems

Vargo Hoat is not included in the TV-Series, afaik. And since Roose now holds harrenhall from the start, they dont really serve a purpose.

Did anyone else get a slight vibe that Roose was refering to Ramsay when he said that he had sent his best "Hunter" out for Jamie?

I heard Vargo was replaced by Loke or whoever, cuz british television laws dont allow to cast people with speaking disabilities or some random thing like that
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 01 2013 08:56 GMT
#4713
thapphireth!
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 09:02:53
April 01 2013 09:00 GMT
#4714
The thing is, we have seen a scene from the trailers wich takes place in harrenhall where Jamie screems in pain, assumingly when his hand is cut off. and since Bolton now has control of Harrenhall since the start up, it makes no sense for him to bring the mummers there and have them mutilate Jamie if his goal is an alliance with the Lannisters. Rob will most likely be responsible for the mutilation, and once he leaves Roose starts to scheme with Jamie.

i Assumed that the BK were written out of the TV-Series back in season 2 when they did not appear in harrenhall and overthrew the lannister forces allowing Arya to escape, wich is what happened in the books.
you no take candle
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 09:46:10
April 01 2013 09:08 GMT
#4715
Also Missandei got buffed up from a 9 year old to a smoking chocolate babe, anyone else thinking we ll get a lesbian scene with her and Danny?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
April 01 2013 09:15 GMT
#4716
On April 01 2013 18:08 Geo.Rion wrote:
Also Missandei got buffed up from a 9 year old to a smoking choclote babe, anyone else thinking we ll get a lesbian scene with her and Danny?

yeah she might replace the now dead Irri as Danys sporadic female lover
you no take candle
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
April 01 2013 09:18 GMT
#4717
On April 01 2013 17:55 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 17:48 sc2holar wrote:
On April 01 2013 17:38 Geo.Rion wrote:
On April 01 2013 17:35 sc2holar wrote:
I have been thinking alot about Jamies upcoming mutiliation and how its going to happen. Since the Brave Companions have been written out of the TV-series, i guess the only Option left is that Rob himself orders for his sword-hand to be cut off to send a message to the lannisters, and then when Robb leaves harrenhal Roose sets jamie free and sets up the scheming for the RW.

i kinda like this change, it will give a lot more dramatic emphasis to the "Jamie Lannister sends his regards" line

were they written out? That s now what i heard. We already met Quibrun, though, yeh, he s not with the Companion, or so it seems

Vargo Hoat is not included in the TV-Series, afaik. And since Roose now holds harrenhall from the start, they dont really serve a purpose.

Did anyone else get a slight vibe that Roose was refering to Ramsay when he said that he had sent his best "Hunter" out for Jamie?

I heard Vargo was replaced by Loke or whoever, cuz british television laws dont allow to cast people with speaking disabilities or some random thing like that


Well I seriously doubt that. I'm sure there's no law saying you can't have a character with a lisp (along with the fact that im not sure why British TV laws would have anything to do with an HBO show). I bet even if they kept Vargo they'd take out the lisp. It's aweosme in the books but it might seem too comical or whacky in the show.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
April 01 2013 09:30 GMT
#4718
i dont get it, is Ros working for Varys now? if you remember the scene from the final S2 episode varys tried to recruit her, so is she like a double agent for Varys spying on Littlefinger now?
you no take candle
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 09:50:36
April 01 2013 09:45 GMT
#4719
On April 01 2013 18:18 DannyJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 17:55 Geo.Rion wrote:
On April 01 2013 17:48 sc2holar wrote:
On April 01 2013 17:38 Geo.Rion wrote:
On April 01 2013 17:35 sc2holar wrote:
I have been thinking alot about Jamies upcoming mutiliation and how its going to happen. Since the Brave Companions have been written out of the TV-series, i guess the only Option left is that Rob himself orders for his sword-hand to be cut off to send a message to the lannisters, and then when Robb leaves harrenhal Roose sets jamie free and sets up the scheming for the RW.

i kinda like this change, it will give a lot more dramatic emphasis to the "Jamie Lannister sends his regards" line

were they written out? That s now what i heard. We already met Quibrun, though, yeh, he s not with the Companion, or so it seems

Vargo Hoat is not included in the TV-Series, afaik. And since Roose now holds harrenhall from the start, they dont really serve a purpose.

Did anyone else get a slight vibe that Roose was refering to Ramsay when he said that he had sent his best "Hunter" out for Jamie?

I heard Vargo was replaced by Loke or whoever, cuz british television laws dont allow to cast people with speaking disabilities or some random thing like that


Well I seriously doubt that. I'm sure there's no law saying you can't have a character with a lisp (along with the fact that im not sure why British TV laws would have anything to do with an HBO show). I bet even if they kept Vargo they'd take out the lisp. It's aweosme in the books but it might seem too comical or whacky in the show.

they shoot that part in Belfast, so i guess there s that... i ll try to dig up the article

that s the best i could find, not the article i had in mid:
We have revealed, based on reports from various sources, that Noah Taylor will be playing the Vargo Hoat character. Only the writers have reportedly decided to rename the character to ‘Locke’. Presumably, this means that this is an entirely new character with a different background (not from Qohor, no lisp, etc.), although he will apparently fulfill the same function within the story.
http://winteriscoming.net/2012/10/unconfirmed-season-three-actors-who-are-they-playing/
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
April 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#4720
I didn't like the first episode. I think the changes just made the story more boring. But I must admit the Unsulied look cool.
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