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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 09:22:28
April 30 2012 09:21 GMT
#2001
The fist is ridiculously close to what I imagined it.

HBO translators subbed it first of the first man

so embarassing
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
April 30 2012 10:03 GMT
#2002
Yea I personally imagined it a lot less high, like someone said, a steep hill surrounded on atleast one side by forest. And was also expecting Jon to be asked to come along, can't really understand why they changed it, seems more detrimental to his character making him look like a young kid that wants to go to school for the first time and while that may be what they wanted, I don't think I like him more or find him more interesting because of it.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 10:57:19
April 30 2012 10:56 GMT
#2003
On April 30 2012 19:03 Sprungjeezy wrote:
Yea I personally imagined it a lot less high, like someone said, a steep hill surrounded on atleast one side by forest. And was also expecting Jon to be asked to come along, can't really understand why they changed it, seems more detrimental to his character making him look like a young kid that wants to go to school for the first time and while that may be what they wanted, I don't think I like him more or find him more interesting because of it.


Same. There's supposed to be trees!

I guess they just decided to go for somewhere a bit more open to make the action scenes there clearer or something.

===

I'm glad they renamed asha...she's coming across as nothing like the book character T_T

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Jaqen is great, he and Arya are going to have some great scenes. I'm finding it funny how many people seem to misremember the whole red god thing though xD

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Looks like we get to meet Ygritte next week.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 30 2012 11:05 GMT
#2004
On April 30 2012 13:43 Zelniq wrote:
best episode so far. Though, I hope they have something very smart planned to replace arya killing tickler in ASOS while yelling "IS THERE GOLD IN THE VILLAGE" because that moment was monumental for her.

I don't think it was a bad idea to have the tickler killed in this way. I mean, yeah, in the books that was one of those utterly, utterly awesome scenes to read, but in the show they simply could not build enough of a relation between Arya and the tickler to make it work. The large majority of the people would most likely not even remember him if he'd appear some time next season, and would wonder why it is supposed to be so significant that Arya kills him. A pity that we lost an awesome scene, but that's how it is.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
April 30 2012 12:30 GMT
#2005
for some reason I imagined Renly's death as waaaay more bloody
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 30 2012 12:51 GMT
#2006
On April 30 2012 21:30 Quotidian wrote:
for some reason I imagined Renly's death as waaaay more bloody

the reason might have been that he was supposed to be slashed (despite wearing the finest armor) open not stabbed in the back.
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Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
April 30 2012 14:07 GMT
#2007
started reading the other spoiler-free thread, I suggest everyone go read it its very amusing to read some people's thoughts :D About Cersei, I feel like shes way different in the books, I really hated her, maybe she got punished in the books so I dont have those feelings anymore?
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 14:13:55
April 30 2012 14:13 GMT
#2008
On April 30 2012 18:21 D10 wrote:
The fist is ridiculously close to what I imagined it.

HBO translators subbed it first of the first man

so embarassing


If they called themselves the first men, wouldn't they be the type to yell 'First' when they get to some place? Its too bad the Andals kick banned them for Firsting.
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FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
April 30 2012 14:16 GMT
#2009
hmm I am a bit annoyed with Arya stuff, as somebody mentioned, the tickler shouldnt die yet, and it is sooo important that she kills him. And then, she has the whole convo with Jaqen about the rules of killing people? And she asks him to kill himself? And then shes like, trololol just kidding, and he pretty much breathes a sigh of relief? But I think that explained that he couldnt kill certain people..i might be wrong. Also somebody wrote something about misremembering, I also didnt remember jaqen being associated with the red god... O_O is that really the case?
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 30 2012 14:21 GMT
#2010
On April 30 2012 23:16 FireSA wrote:
hmm I am a bit annoyed with Arya stuff, as somebody mentioned, the tickler shouldnt die yet, and it is sooo important that she kills him. And then, she has the whole convo with Jaqen about the rules of killing people? And she asks him to kill himself? And then shes like, trololol just kidding, and he pretty much breathes a sigh of relief? But I think that explained that he couldnt kill certain people..i might be wrong. Also somebody wrote something about misremembering, I also didnt remember jaqen being associated with the red god... O_O is that really the case?


He worships the many-faced god, which in turn pays reverence to all gods. Since she saved him, Biter, and Rorge from the flames, she deprived the red god specifically of three lives. That is why the red god, and not any other gods from any other faiths, demands the sacrifices.

I don't necessarily mind her choosing The Tickler, considering it would be hard for them to introduce some of the characters she killed off in the books and give them enough screen time for us to properly hate them before she has them assassinated.

Didn't particularly care for how they portrayed the Fist f the First Men though...I just imagined a defensible hill in a clearing in the forest. It's what makes the scene where The Others come that much more frightening.
FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
April 30 2012 14:41 GMT
#2011
ahahaha red god..flames..of course. Now I feel stupid :3 Also wasnt xaro xhoan daxis meant to be sleazy?

overall though I think the show is coming along well, given the time that they have. And whilst things like how they pronounce brienne and the like annoy me every time, other things like arya do make me pretty happy and pumped for whats to come
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
April 30 2012 15:15 GMT
#2012
Just thought of something, have Jon and Qhorin departed yet? I got the impression they had but Jon is yet to find the dragonglass stash which becomes critical to the development of Sam's character and his nicknames
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 30 2012 15:18 GMT
#2013
Also, did anyone notice that in the teasers they do before the show, where they flash back and forth between characters in menacing poses, that they had Jon on the Iron Throne? They trying to imply something to the TV viewers that they might not necessarily catch onto on their own? *wink* *wink*.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
April 30 2012 15:32 GMT
#2014
On April 30 2012 21:51 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 21:30 Quotidian wrote:
for some reason I imagined Renly's death as waaaay more bloody

the reason might have been that he was supposed to be slashed (despite wearing the finest armor) open not stabbed in the back.



well.. yeah -.- I was hoping for something anime-styled jets of blood, not an anticlimactic stab through the chest



Arya is great though.. it's a shame her character basically does nothing for about 2 books after she travels east
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
April 30 2012 21:41 GMT
#2015
Brienne theater background is too apparent. I hope she improves her tv acting skills, she looks the part as much as can be but I would have rather someone who is 90% Brienne but can also act decently. Thinking mostly about the Renly death scene.
Shichibukai
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden355 Posts
April 30 2012 22:14 GMT
#2016
On April 30 2012 17:50 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 17:32 Crazyeyes wrote:
- The Fist of the First Men. Not important at all but did anyone else not imagine it like it is in the show? It's like a giant cliff thing. I imagined it as a really steep hill. Still, a hill... not a mountain, which this is closer to. I guess it's not really important. The small differences from my imagination are what stand out the most for me.

The Fist of the First Men is supposed to be a ringfort on a hill surrounded by forests, not a random snowy mountain surrounded by other snowy mountains. When the others and wights attacked they came out from the forest. I don't know how the night's watch will get ambushed out in the middle of nowhere with miles of vision in every direction.

This was my biggest problem with the episode as well. Needs more forest, why would they film these scenes on Iceland. :[
adiga
Profile Joined July 2011
495 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 22:45:27
April 30 2012 22:45 GMT
#2017
On April 30 2012 21:51 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 21:30 Quotidian wrote:
for some reason I imagined Renly's death as waaaay more bloody

the reason might have been that he was supposed to be slashed (despite wearing the finest armor) open not stabbed in the back.


He was supposed to be slashed open(at the neck yeah?) from ear to ear, I think that the whole scene was so anticlimactic really they could have done a lot better job with it. They could do better with the shadow and the lights getting dim and the way Renly died. It looked like a death of no one important really -.-
Reading that chapter I was left in shuck for a few minutes and this scene didn't deliver that at all(I watched the episode with friends of mine who haven't read the books and I checked their facial expressions).

Also there was something else that bugged me about this episode:
I don't know why the writers decided to give the credit to Cerci about the wildfire, It should have been Tyrions plan, it was an important part of the development of his character about his wits and will of his, it all went wrong now about that he really wants to save the city, atm he looks like he is busy playing games with Cerci and some other bullshit which isn't protecting the city from armies which means Tyrion isn't doing his job well.
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
April 30 2012 22:55 GMT
#2018
who was the masked woman who spoke to Jorah? do i just not remember her cause she was not important or is she not in the books?
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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
April 30 2012 22:59 GMT
#2019
Quaithe of/from the Asshai.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
April 30 2012 23:11 GMT
#2020
On May 01 2012 07:55 Zeon0 wrote:
who was the masked woman who spoke to Jorah? do i just not remember her cause she was not important or is she not in the books?


She was one of the 3 that came to bring Dany to Qarth. They have a few interactions in Qarth where she does some prophecizing. She appears in one of Dany's dreams in ASOS when she's on the boat. She appears to Dany in a garden In Meereen and warns her about a bunch of stuff.
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