• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:19
CEST 09:19
KST 16:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview4[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)6Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League4Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Pros React To: ASL S21 Finals BW General Discussion Very long shot - StarCraft x A7X video Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light vespene.gg — BW replays in browser
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] WB Final & LB Semis - Saturday 21:00 CEST [ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development streaming software
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Customization Drives Loyalty…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2120 users

Surprisingly good films/Hidden Gems - Page 13

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 90 Next
slowmanrunning
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada285 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 21:46:44
June 06 2010 21:46 GMT
#241
On June 07 2010 04:00 arb wrote:
If you havent seent his go watch it, NOW

[image loading]


Enemy at the Gates is neither SURPRISINGLY good, or a hidden gem.
It had lots of publicity and popularity.

Please try to stick to outlines.
I aim to become a hydralisk and then stop posting, cause I don't wanna be a queen...
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 21:47:05
June 06 2010 21:46 GMT
#242
On June 05 2010 18:15 dethrawr wrote:
Primer, amazing mindfuck movie that just seems more complicated and awesome with each viewing.
[image loading]


Thanks for the recommendation, I watched this last night and it was fantastic.
YoonHo
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1043 Posts
June 06 2010 21:50 GMT
#243
Can someone give me the right subtitles for Let the right one in?

I watched this movie few years back and enjoyed it. I'm just thinking right now that I could've enjoyed it more if I had better subtitles. Thanks!

As for my recommendation, it has to be The Chaser (already mentioned few times in this thread). It's a great Korean thriller.
IUFam Golf Wang~ NrGsteve
mell1n
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1 Post
June 06 2010 22:12 GMT
#244
On June 07 2010 06:50 YoonHo wrote:
Can someone give me the right subtitles for Let the right one in?

I watched this movie few years back and enjoyed it. I'm just thinking right now that I could've enjoyed it more if I had better subtitles. Thanks!

As for my recommendation, it has to be The Chaser (already mentioned few times in this thread). It's a great Korean thriller.


try these...
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 06 2010 22:18 GMT
#245
On June 07 2010 06:46 slowmanrunning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2010 04:00 arb wrote:
If you havent seent his go watch it, NOW

[image loading]


Enemy at the Gates is neither SURPRISINGLY good, or a hidden gem.
It had lots of publicity and popularity.

Please try to stick to outlines.

Well to be fair i hadnt ever heard of it till i saw it on TV one night, and virtually no one i know has ever seen or heard of it..

so i figure id post it here, besides others might not have seen it, it is a great movie afterall
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
manymunkies
Profile Joined April 2009
United States184 Posts
June 06 2010 22:24 GMT
#246
[image loading]
I randomly picked this up one day at the library and was really shocked at how great it really was
Be water my friend
architekt
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany64 Posts
June 06 2010 22:35 GMT
#247
is there a miyazaki that is not great? also ghost in the shell 1 and 2. just finished the first season and was really delighted too. especially episode 15! and give me my last episodes of urasawa's monster already. subbed is an insult to every movie.
when i was younger i always thought that anime are stupid. stupid me
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 22:38:08
June 06 2010 22:35 GMT
#248
The Fountain
Movie Description: Spanning over one thousand years, and three parallel stories, The Fountain is a story of love, death, spirituality, and the fragility of our existence in this world.

+ Show Spoiler [trailer] +


[image loading]
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 22:41:14
June 06 2010 22:40 GMT
#249
On June 07 2010 06:41 cougar22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 18:24 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
Badass movie that is a nice alternative to the matrix type movies:
[image loading]


This movie was so poorly executed, it's hilarious. The action is absolutely horrible and the acting is very sub-par. For people that are supposed to have no emotion, there sure is a lot of it flying around before it gets pointed out by the main character at the end. That poster is from badmovieplanet.com, and that movie is indeed very, very bad.


I agree with this, Equilibrium was one of the shittiest movies ever made. It was just trying to cash in on the matrix hype while we waited for Matrix 2.

As for good movies, here are some I liked. Most of these were far better than I expected them to be, although most of these mainstream picks have had a lot of hype.

I don't understand these were better than you expected? When do you expect a movie to be good? These are ALL mainstream, wtf?

Mainstream:
Braveheart -ofc
Gladiator -ofc
The Patriot -meh
Fight Club -ofc
Sin City -ofc
American Beauty -meh
Requiem for a Dream -terrible
V for Vendetta -terrible
Mulholland Dr. -terrible x2
The Boat That Rocked (Pirate Radio)
The Departed -ofc
Gattaca -ok
The Hurt Locker -terrible
The Prestige -ok, but very predictable
The Illusionist
The Lookout
Up in the Air

Unknown/Overlooked/Indie:
The Wackness -bad
Cashback -terrible
Wristcutters: A Love Story -not that bad of a chick flick but still
Stardust -terrible
All the Real Girls
George Washington
Undertow
Snow Angels
Brick
Brothers Bloom
In Bruges
Die Welle (The Wave)
Die Fälscher (The Counterfeiters)
Das Leben der Anderen (The Lives of Others)
[/QUOTE]

didnt see the rest but this post is a huge fail imho.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Cajun2k1
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands399 Posts
June 06 2010 22:43 GMT
#250
Unthinkable, think 24 but realistic.

[image loading]
How can you kill, that which has no life?
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
June 06 2010 22:48 GMT
#251
On June 07 2010 07:43 Cajun2k1 wrote:
Unthinkable, think 24 but realistic.

http://www.onlinemovieshut.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/unthinkable-review.jpg
[/img]
that's unthinkable
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
June 06 2010 22:54 GMT
#252
On June 07 2010 07:40 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2010 06:41 cougar22 wrote:
On June 05 2010 18:24 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
Badass movie that is a nice alternative to the matrix type movies:
[image loading]


This movie was so poorly executed, it's hilarious. The action is absolutely horrible and the acting is very sub-par. For people that are supposed to have no emotion, there sure is a lot of it flying around before it gets pointed out by the main character at the end. That poster is from badmovieplanet.com, and that movie is indeed very, very bad.


I agree with this, Equilibrium was one of the shittiest movies ever made. It was just trying to cash in on the matrix hype while we waited for Matrix 2.
Show nested quote +

As for good movies, here are some I liked. Most of these were far better than I expected them to be, although most of these mainstream picks have had a lot of hype.

I don't understand these were better than you expected? When do you expect a movie to be good? These are ALL mainstream, wtf?

Mainstream:
Braveheart -ofc
Gladiator -ofc
The Patriot -meh
Fight Club -ofc
Sin City -ofc
American Beauty -meh
Requiem for a Dream -terrible
V for Vendetta -terrible
Mulholland Dr. -terrible x2
The Boat That Rocked (Pirate Radio)
The Departed -ofc
Gattaca -ok
The Hurt Locker -terrible
The Prestige -ok, but very predictable
The Illusionist
The Lookout
Up in the Air

Unknown/Overlooked/Indie:
The Wackness -bad
Cashback -terrible
Wristcutters: A Love Story -not that bad of a chick flick but still
Stardust -terrible
All the Real Girls
George Washington
Undertow
Snow Angels
Brick
Brothers Bloom
In Bruges
Die Welle (The Wave)
Die Fälscher (The Counterfeiters)
Das Leben der Anderen (The Lives of Others)


didnt see the rest but this post is a huge fail imho.
[/QUOTE]

The movies you mentioned were about as mainstream as his. What's your point?
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 23:19:56
June 06 2010 22:56 GMT
#253
On June 07 2010 07:40 CharlieMurphy wrote:
didnt see the rest but this post is a huge fail imho.




V for Vendetta terrible? Were you watching the same movie I was?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 06 2010 23:00 GMT
#254
On June 07 2010 07:56 dethrawr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2010 07:40 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On June 07 2010 06:41 cougar22 wrote:
On June 05 2010 18:24 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
Badass movie that is a nice alternative to the matrix type movies:
[image loading]


This movie was so poorly executed, it's hilarious. The action is absolutely horrible and the acting is very sub-par. For people that are supposed to have no emotion, there sure is a lot of it flying around before it gets pointed out by the main character at the end. That poster is from badmovieplanet.com, and that movie is indeed very, very bad.


I agree with this, Equilibrium was one of the shittiest movies ever made. It was just trying to cash in on the matrix hype while we waited for Matrix 2.

As for good movies, here are some I liked. Most of these were far better than I expected them to be, although most of these mainstream picks have had a lot of hype.

I don't understand these were better than you expected? When do you expect a movie to be good? These are ALL mainstream, wtf?

Mainstream:
Braveheart -ofc
Gladiator -ofc
The Patriot -meh
Fight Club -ofc
Sin City -ofc
American Beauty -meh
Requiem for a Dream -terrible
V for Vendetta -terrible
Mulholland Dr. -terrible x2
The Boat That Rocked (Pirate Radio)
The Departed -ofc
Gattaca -ok
The Hurt Locker -terrible
The Prestige -ok, but very predictable
The Illusionist
The Lookout
Up in the Air

Unknown/Overlooked/Indie:
The Wackness -bad
Cashback -terrible
Wristcutters: A Love Story -not that bad of a chick flick but still
Stardust -terrible
All the Real Girls
George Washington
Undertow
Snow Angels
Brick
Brothers Bloom
In Bruges
Die Welle (The Wave)
Die Fälscher (The Counterfeiters)
Das Leben der Anderen (The Lives of Others)


didnt see the rest but this post is a huge fail imho.


V for Vendetta terrible? Were you watching the same movie I was?[/QUOTE]
i thought it was good but i did think it was a tad bit slow myself..
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
jusayO
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada60 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 23:17:55
June 06 2010 23:15 GMT
#255
[image loading]

A movie I had no expectations going into it four years ago, and came out more than pleasantly surprised. See for yourself, I can't really say anything about it without giving too much away... And the Gogol Bordello singer (Eugene Hutz) was also amazing. I'm sure this film received popularity, but in Canada I had to see it at the festival, where it quickly became forgotten.

[image loading]

Kin-Dza-Dza , for its time and considering it's a Russian movie (which I always find to be poor) was actually extremely fun and if you look at it closely... It has a lot to say about how silly society and everything about humanity really is... In a rather unique way. Lots of people hate it, lots of people love it. It can be as simple as you want, or you can look further into it and it becomes complex.

[image loading]

One of my favorite "Yakuza" movies of all time, and I watched it without knowing what it was out of boredom. Kitano is simply one of the best directors of recent memory, as his movies always seem to speak in so many voices that they're hard to take in from just one viewing. Tragic, humorous, serious, and light hearted all at once.... And each part is done well. This was the first Kitano movie I watched, and still my favorite.
무릎의 춤이 더 즐겁게 훨씬 때 스트리퍼가 울고있다
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 23:31:41
June 06 2010 23:21 GMT
#256
Bring it On.. perhaps just a guilty pleasure, but I found these films to be amazinggg. Well, only 3 out of 5 of them :x
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]

kekkkk ^_^
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Lomak
Profile Joined June 2010
United States311 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 23:41:50
June 06 2010 23:31 GMT
#257
[image loading]


[image loading]


Just watched these series of movies called "Ong bak"

Its got the guy from the movie "The protector" who does all the mua thai (sp?) moves. The Ong Bok movies are just as brutal, if not more so.
Some see the glass half full, others half empty. I think the glass is just too big.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
June 07 2010 00:01 GMT
#258
Ok guys, I watched 'the man from earth' and K-Pax again tonight. To be honest, they are comically similar . Very much enjoyed both of them actually. I honestly think K-Pax is more emotional even though the end of the man from earth almost had me in tears, K-Pax did actually have me tearing up about 30 minutes before the end.

Anyway, all I have to say is that if anyone did enjoy the philosophy in the man from earth, you HAVE to watch every season of Star Trek: The Next Generation. It's basically 100x as much depth and thought about the topics discussed, with, I'm sorry to say, a lot more imagination. Much of the philosophy of the man from earth was standard 'new atheism' and 'enlightened open-mind-ism'. I mean I have no problem with it, but it was slightly laboured for anyone but the philosophical neophyte. If one actual takes time to watch TNG, the philosophy and imagination, and mental workout of some of the episodes, including some of the outrageously complicated moral dilemmas; far exceeds the scope of the man from earth. Although there was some great emotion, there's just as much in TNG, especially the final episode two-parter, which is just unbelievably mind-blowing. I'm also certain the biologist is in Star Trek, somewhere or another, I just can't quite remember where from.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
June 07 2010 00:08 GMT
#259
Christiane F.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
(picture was pretty big)

I do warn you. It has some very, very strong drug and sex scenes in it, involving a real 14 year old girl. It is pretty amazing, but will fuck some people up, and not in the same way as a movie like "The human centipede". Think those Montana meth adverts for 2 hours.


The Edukators

[image loading]

Stumbled across it a while ago. Really well done movie, worth watching to the end even if you don't really like it.

Tampopo

[image loading]

The best film about food ever, no question. Oh, it's so, so good.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
cougar22
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada98 Posts
June 07 2010 00:16 GMT
#260
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 07 2010 07:40 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2010 06:41 cougar22 wrote:
On June 05 2010 18:24 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
Badass movie that is a nice alternative to the matrix type movies:
[image loading]


This movie was so poorly executed, it's hilarious. The action is absolutely horrible and the acting is very sub-par. For people that are supposed to have no emotion, there sure is a lot of it flying around before it gets pointed out by the main character at the end. That poster is from badmovieplanet.com, and that movie is indeed very, very bad.


I agree with this, Equilibrium was one of the shittiest movies ever made. It was just trying to cash in on the matrix hype while we waited for Matrix 2.
Show nested quote +

As for good movies, here are some I liked. Most of these were far better than I expected them to be, although most of these mainstream picks have had a lot of hype.

I don't understand these were better than you expected? When do you expect a movie to be good? These are ALL mainstream, wtf?

Mainstream:
Braveheart -ofc
Gladiator -ofc
The Patriot -meh
Fight Club -ofc
Sin City -ofc
American Beauty -meh
Requiem for a Dream -terrible
V for Vendetta -terrible
Mulholland Dr. -terrible x2
The Boat That Rocked (Pirate Radio)
The Departed -ofc
Gattaca -ok
The Hurt Locker -terrible
The Prestige -ok, but very predictable
The Illusionist
The Lookout
Up in the Air

Unknown/Overlooked/Indie:
The Wackness -bad
Cashback -terrible
Wristcutters: A Love Story -not that bad of a chick flick but still
Stardust -terrible
All the Real Girls
George Washington
Undertow
Snow Angels
Brick
Brothers Bloom
In Bruges
Die Welle (The Wave)
Die Fälscher (The Counterfeiters)
Das Leben der Anderen (The Lives of Others)


didnt see the rest but this post is a huge fail imho.


These movies are so mainstream and never overlooked that you haven't seen the majority of the ones labelled "Unknown/Overlooked/Indie"? Most people I know haven't seen the movies in the bottom half, hence the word "overlooked". What I mean by the good movies being better than expected: movie gets a lot of hype, I expect to enjoy it, I watch movie, movie has a lot more substance than expected.

If you are absolutely certain that every good movie is going to be good before it comes out and your expectations are never exceeded, there is the bottom half of my post with movies you will likely have no expectations for. I will not argue about your opinion on every one of these movies, but please, if you are going to shit on my opinion of good film, provide examples of your own superior taste.
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 90 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 11m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 1178
ToSsGirL 38
Nal_rA 30
Bale 18
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv590
ceh9467
kRYSTAL_40
Other Games
summit1g10924
WinterStarcraft519
Happy271
Mew2King216
RuFF_SC236
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick632
Counter-Strike
PGL378
Other Games
BasetradeTV196
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1605
• HappyZerGling127
Upcoming Events
GSL
2h 11m
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
4h 41m
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
OSC
11h 41m
Replay Cast
16h 41m
Maestros of the Game
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
RSL Revival
1d 23h
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
2 days
IPSL
2 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
BSL
2 days
TerrOr vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs eOnzErG
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.