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Japanese Music Discussion - Page 17
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PanoRaMa
United States5068 Posts
Who makes random arbitrary rules for a thread anyway, this isn't his blog. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
On June 12 2010 17:54 imperfek wrote: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oneSbqH4lwY ^my favo Love and Roll is just too good...a song from that side of a bar hook up. | ||
Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On June 11 2010 09:32 MorningMusume11 wrote: Yeah had any idea what the age demographic was for the girls you saw? hehe. And yeah, Melody is doing fashion design... but I guess i could kinda see that coming. Well from memory they were all pretty young. I'd say between teenage girls and early 20s. But then again most of the girls walking down Harajuku (the main strip where I saw this) are around that age anyway so I don't know if it's the same with older women. I would suspect anyone older than 25 would probably be into SMAP more lol but what do I know hahaha I'm just guessing. On June 12 2010 19:04 Orome wrote: About Nujabes, I keep hearing how great he is, could anyone tell me an album that would be a good introduction to his music? Whilst I can't tell you which album to listen to because most of the stuff I do like from him are scattered between different albums I found a useful link a while ago that has a lot of his music. http://forums.projectcovo.com/showthread.php?t=2652621 Hopefully someone better versed can guide you as to which album is best to start off with. Personally I just typed his name into Youtube and clicked the first thing I saw then I clicked related links to other songs (probably explain why the songs I like are scattered all over the place.) | ||
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waffling1
599 Posts
i tried to torrent it, but it ended up crashin my comp lol | ||
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Aro_X
United States106 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
 anyway i prefer her acting more than her singing but i really enjoyed this song during aya ueto's drama (was the ending for her "hotelier" drama which is a japanese remake of a korean one" | ||
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
On June 12 2010 18:39 dronebabo wrote: so basically you're stereotyping all anime songs as some sort of garbage low level music just because it's been made for anime. funny how that first song that is unacceptable is made by nujabes (underground scene) and minmi (established artist outside of anime). the song is terrible though because it's for an anime right? it doesn't even have a PV! Never said it was terrible unfortunately. What would've been nice however, is if the guy would have said "I know this was part of an Anime OST but you should still listen to it because Nujabes is really great." Did I over react over one song? Yeah. And yes, Samurai Champloo isn't Naruto but so what? I might've left one or two posts slip through the cracks but up to this point, no one has posted something that had a blatant anime association. Now I'm not gonna lie, I thought about easing up on my "anti-anime" rule here quite a bit. The reason why I let some of these posts go is because at least there was a reason (even a half-assed one will do) why I should listen, or there was some sort of explanation. Just... something, unlike "THIS BAND!! *insert youtube links here*" http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=101514¤tpage=9#169 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=101514¤tpage=8#151 On June 12 2010 18:56 intrigue wrote: hrm, i agree with the above posts by babo and pano. i think it makes more sense to judge songs on its independent merit. asking for something that has promotion outside of shows is unrealistic even by american standards, where the mainstream success of countless extremely talented but relatively obscure bands have been due almost exclusively to just one or two plays during a single episode of a popular show or a movie. big examples are frou frou and the shins coming out of garden state, or electric president and the new pornographers out of episodes of the OC and weeds. i understand that the japanese scene isn't gonna be the same and that anime is a different medium, but the principle should still remain - judge it as its artist intended, not just by its association. I can say the same about Priscilla Ahn, but her songs got used in shows AFTER she already released her songs individually. Same as Frou Frou, and hell the New Pornographers were kind of known before their songs were used in movies and TV shows. Later on I guess these artists would get called upon to do a song or two exclusive to their show they already built up a good enough pedigree on their own. Furthermore, these "obscure bands", at least here in America, don't have the notion of "yeah, I'm gonna make this song just so that I can have it on Glee" or whatever. I might be wrong here, but I believe this is how they achieve their greatness. They make a couple good songs on their own, and because of it some producer falls in love with the song and uses it for their show. The thing about anime songs, most of the time, it's the other way around. As good as Megumi Hayashibara and Yui Horie are (and I know they have done stuff outside of anime), but when you hear their names, don't tell me their names doesn't scream anime in a person's thoughts because hell, they're even profilic anime voice actors too. If you're going to post blind youtube links of their songs, at least 60% of their content is anime exclusive, so why CAN'T it go to an anime thread that's way bigger than this? For more recent posters, this was originally a J-Pop thread (although it certainly implied J-Rock as well) before the rename. Now it's just "Japanese Music" then yeah... that's why in one of my posts earlier I asked for a J-Pop / J-Rock rename (and if I saw Enka... yeah... think you guys get it). Technically now, it's "Japanese Music", so yeah. So when I address this next post... On June 12 2010 19:01 PanoRaMa wrote: Because anyone who wants to sample Japanese Music is going to look for it in a 6300-reply thread, when there's a significantly smaller thread, aptly named "Japanese Music Discussion" that they can look at. Who makes random arbitrary rules for a thread anyway, this isn't his blog. The anime OP has a bunch of rules -_-. Not to mention the fact that time to time, there will be occasional reposts in the K-Pop thread, which is twice as huge. But ONLY K-pop goes there, and if there's a blog from this point on that's K-Pop related, it's going to get shut down. Now it's "Korean Music" and "Japanese Music", and as far as the rules go, those applied prior to the thread title change. At first I was ok about the name change but as you can obviously see, I wasn't =/ Honestly, It's about time I got disputed over this. I was expecting this to come a lot sooner than later but the fact that it came a lot later than I thought, makes me reconsider a lot about posters in general, specifically the ones that come in here. Back then when it was dubbed as a J-Pop and an implied J-Rock thread, even with the couple anime songs here and there, those weren't shallow posts. When it comes to "Japanese Music" you guys are completely right. I'm still in the throught process that this is still the "J-Pop Discussion Thread", so you guys can kinda understand why I instantly raged over a post. For me I was comfortable with a thread that had a small, semi-devout following. But when a thread is renamed the way it is now, then technically everything's a go. My original motive in creating this thread was to have a music thread that deviated from the norms of one of the things that most people think of Japan (which is anime... and 6300 posts full of it, go figure). | ||
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Sandrosuperstar
Sweden525 Posts
On June 12 2010 17:51 Turbovolver wrote: Has any Rin Toshite Shigure been posted yet? Wow the jpop xfile song was really good :D | ||
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dronebabo
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
On June 12 2010 19:04 Orome wrote: About Nujabes, I keep hearing how great he is, could anyone tell me an album that would be a good introduction to his music? I think is best to start with Methaporical Music. (His first album) What a sad loss. Edit: More on the rap side of things: Also this song made me know Cyne (Not japanese but also great) | ||
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waffling1
599 Posts
yet, i think you will agree that even tho nujabes did a lot of songs for samurai champloo, his style is so unlike the rest of the typical "anime style" (e.g. haruhi openning/bleach openning/lucky star openning). line up his songs to other anime songs and have a person who doesnt know anime listen to them, nujabes will stick out like a country song in a rock playlist. it really was his music and style that i thought was bomb. the anime-ness didn't even matter to me b/c his style was inherently sufficiently different, and quality. anyways, apologies for not reading and for the infringement on the OP intentions. But you will agree that nujabes is kickass yes? =] | ||
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
On June 13 2010 03:10 dronebabo wrote: you never said it was terrible, but you said it was INSULTING to post anime music in this thread. let's not forget this was a broad generalization either, regardless of what the song is/was made for. you can circle around it all you want but it's obvious you think of music catered to an anime audience (or even any underground music) as lower than mainstream artists with their own PV featuring on music shows/variety shows. i really do am sorry for hijacking your thread like this but your saying it was insulting really got to me when there are some really good artists that did music for anime that had no pv or any sort of mainstream promotion outside of it. to be fair it was titled jpop thread before this you're right and the rules were made then instead of after the title change. i won't shit it up any longer Yeah you can say that (and I'm not going to say you're wrong either cuz you're not... underground music isn't necessarily anime right so... whatever), not because of the music itself but the perception that I've gotten from people concerning Japanese culture, at least musically. To say that Yoko Kanno is bad is just... foolish. My brother's girlfriend is Half-Japenese, and she would tell me about how when she was sitting in her Japanese class, litterally everyone else was in the class because they wanted to have the ability to watch anime raw. I posted this on the England vs USA thread earlier but I'll post it here too about what this guy said on facebook talking about Korea Kirk PartyPolak Stolarczyk I agree. Korea is only good for sexy chicks and video games. LETS GO USA!!!!!! about an hour ago Now: 1. Not all Americans think this (although... I'm pretty sure a number do) 2. Although as an Asian, these are the stereotypes we deal with. Korea with Starcraft, Japan with Anime and Hello Kitty and what not, China for Kung Fu movies, etc. So yeah, when I see a youtube title that has Anime reference to it, even though he clearly said Nujabes (and that was his point) in his post (and not much else) in a thread that I thought was mostly for mainstream J-Pop / J-Rock music, I'm not going to be happy (my case irate). My thought process goes something like "Wow ok, is that all you think of when you think of our countries?" Seriously, there's nothing to apologize about. You understand, and when I made my post, my mind just blew up royally. Don't think you're shitting up this thread at all. At some point I felt like I had to explain myself and this was the time. Plus... up to this point... this thread was quite... pacifist. In the "OTHER" thread, the fighting, hating, arguing, etc. is a lot more heated and intense. This is NOTHING compared to K-Pop thread (and there's one reason why people think J-Pop > K-Pop...) | ||
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
On June 13 2010 03:37 waffling1 wrote: so it was jpop/jrock before. "NUJABES FOREVER!" was something really based on emotion. b/c i really think he's great, and doesnt necessarily need an intro, or a reason. honestly, i didn't read the OP either, and posted according to the thread title. yet, i think you will agree that even tho nujabes did a lot of songs for samurai champloo, his style is so unlike the rest of the typical "anime style" (e.g. haruhi openning/bleach openning/lucky star openning). line up his songs to other anime songs and have a person who doesnt know anime listen to them, nujabes will stick out like a country song in a rock playlist. it really was his music and style that i thought was bomb. the anime-ness didn't even matter to me b/c his style was inherently sufficiently different, and quality. anyways, apologies for not reading and for the infringement on the OP intentions. But you will agree that nujabes is kickass yes? =] Let me do a double blatant double post just for YOU. Nujabes, they're great. My apologies for being really irate at you just because I saw an anime title and went berserk. Plus the old rules... I guess they're more like "guidelines" unless I get this thread renamed AGAIN. The only reason I would fault you is because "BAND NAME!!! *youtube link**youtube link*" can be... yeah. But don't worry about that. Anyways from the posts below you get my point, so don't worry about it at all, again. yet, i think you will agree that even tho nujabes did a lot of songs for samurai champloo, his style is so unlike the rest of the typical "anime style" See, this is good. This portion right here. You'll read above about my true dislike for most anime music being here, but when you write this, it gives me and everyone else a damn good reason to listen to them if we're not familiar. And yeah... I should've been familiar with Nujabes too but I'm just a noob like that... | ||
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waffling1
599 Posts
u want sort of a reason/intro/short blurb about what makes this song/author good or why i like them? basically if something like THIS was captioned: "yet, i think you will agree that even tho nujabes did a lot of songs for samurai champloo, his style is so unlike the rest of the typical "anime style" oooo ic, you also had the stereotype factor in the back of your mind. china kungfu, japan anime, korea starcraft. when someone outside sees this, u want to show another side besides those. another noble bit of awareness. and dont get me wrong, i fully understand the intention of not wanting this thread to be intermingled with a ton of anime music. again my bad i should have read OP, which i tend not to do a good portion of the time hah. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
On June 13 2010 03:51 waffling1 wrote: hmm so BAND NAME! link, is not good. u want sort of a reason/intro/short blurb about what makes this song/author good or why i like them? basically if something like THIS was captioned: "yet, i think you will agree that even tho nujabes did a lot of songs for samurai champloo, his style is so unlike the rest of the typical "anime style" It helps ^^  But don't worry about it, you thought they were well known to a lot of people so its whatever. | ||
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waffling1
599 Posts
(and there's one reason why people think J-Pop > K-Pop...) lol ^^ | ||
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On June 13 2010 00:35 Sandrosuperstar wrote: Wow the jpop xfile song was really good :D First time I listened to that I didn't like it. I didn't like his singing/wailing, but for some reason after it finished I pressed play again. Second time I listened to it I still didn't like the song but at the same time I liked it somehow. Press play again. Third time, loved it lol. Now I can't stop listening to it. I like the change in pace throughout the song. Really good. | ||
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waffling1
599 Posts
On April 06 2010 00:46 ExoCorsair wrote: this song is sooo nice~~~ her style reminds me a bit of yousei teikoku - Gekkou no Chigiri (her normal style is like heavier rock/gothic, but she has "lighter" songs. and the melodic flow and even the voice, i see lots of similarities between it and Yui Makino Spirale. | ||
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