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Batmankills
Profile Joined February 2016
145 Posts
August 25 2019 05:17 GMT
#501
AME , the art of armlet toggling
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 25 2019 05:17 GMT
#502
On August 25 2019 14:13 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 14:12 Nocticate wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:10 VGhost wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:56 Ufnal wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:50 Nocticate wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:46 Nocticate wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:42 Sabu113 wrote:
[quote]

Was the pack that good this year?

How can it be good when game is just getting more random over years?

??
is this bait?

You can treat it as one. In my book, the more variables there are in game, the more random outcome gets.

what do you even mean by more variables? is this just a dusty "bounty runes and talents are bad for the game" take?

Not "bad", just "random".


But more variables doesn't mean just more randomness, but a higher skill cap. Rock-paper-scissors is random without many variables. Poker has more variables but is actually less random if I understand it correctly, because high level players can work with the variables while noobs can't.


Right, but this eventually becomes a problem for keeping things competitive. The higher the cap, the fewer people will be able to hit it, and so the smaller your pool of viable "top tier" players becomes. Arguably the similarity of the top teams between TI8/TI9 suggests Dota is close to maxing out its cap for maintaining a reasonable competitive scene... but at the same time there are so few professional games played, relatively speaking, that it would be ridiculous to say we can make that statement confidently. But if the results next year through the next year are as similar, maybe we get more confident about that guess.

part of the issue is that dota does not really have a very vital player base. and, skill cap for highest achievement aside, the level of commitment necessary to even qualify for TI is absurd compared to other games.

Idk have you seen broodwar and sc2 scene? They completely quit in life just to compete and they don't even gain that much money

wo essentially dead comp scenes? kinda proves the point.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
August 25 2019 05:17 GMT
#503
Lion's stun range is insane wtf
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11084 Posts
August 25 2019 05:18 GMT
#504
That lion cosmetic is sweet.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 25 2019 05:18 GMT
#505
I still dont understand why LGD didnt just burst roshan down and gave Liquid a chance for literally no reason
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 25 2019 05:19 GMT
#506
halberd pretty good pickup
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
turpentine
Profile Joined November 2015
1624 Posts
August 25 2019 05:19 GMT
#507
ame refusing to die
Book of Funn1k, 3:22 "YOU RUINED MY LIFE AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT 0-7 TUSK?? I would so fuckin Walrus Punch you that you will get stunned for 1 year."
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 25 2019 05:19 GMT
#508
Wtf are you doing LGD
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44272 Posts
August 25 2019 05:19 GMT
#509
On August 25 2019 14:17 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 14:13 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:12 Nocticate wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:10 VGhost wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:56 Ufnal wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:50 Nocticate wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:46 Nocticate wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
How can it be good when game is just getting more random over years?

??
is this bait?

You can treat it as one. In my book, the more variables there are in game, the more random outcome gets.

what do you even mean by more variables? is this just a dusty "bounty runes and talents are bad for the game" take?

Not "bad", just "random".


But more variables doesn't mean just more randomness, but a higher skill cap. Rock-paper-scissors is random without many variables. Poker has more variables but is actually less random if I understand it correctly, because high level players can work with the variables while noobs can't.


Right, but this eventually becomes a problem for keeping things competitive. The higher the cap, the fewer people will be able to hit it, and so the smaller your pool of viable "top tier" players becomes. Arguably the similarity of the top teams between TI8/TI9 suggests Dota is close to maxing out its cap for maintaining a reasonable competitive scene... but at the same time there are so few professional games played, relatively speaking, that it would be ridiculous to say we can make that statement confidently. But if the results next year through the next year are as similar, maybe we get more confident about that guess.

part of the issue is that dota does not really have a very vital player base. and, skill cap for highest achievement aside, the level of commitment necessary to even qualify for TI is absurd compared to other games.

Idk have you seen broodwar and sc2 scene? They completely quit in life just to compete and they don't even gain that much money

wo essentially dead comp scenes? kinda proves the point.

I honestly feel sad whenever i know the state of sc2 and broodwar. I mean i love watching the pros and the pros clearly what they're doing too but only 1-2 guys are getting good money at it.

At least on dota 2 no matter how hardcore it seems. If you evne managed to get to TI. You are getting shit ton of money
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 05:19 GMT
#510
On August 25 2019 14:19 babysimba wrote:
Wtf are you doing LGD

Prolonging the crowd cheers.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 25 2019 05:19 GMT
#511
LGD is being careless
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 25 2019 05:19 GMT
#512
i guess liquid's win condition is vac wall sven stun wombo combo.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
August 25 2019 05:20 GMT
#513
w33 wishing he'd gone for Jak there.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 05:20 GMT
#514
On August 25 2019 14:19 Kuroeeah wrote:
i guess liquid's win condition is vac wall sven stun wombo combo.

Don't forget the TA spill crit from Lion or Jakiro.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 25 2019 05:20 GMT
#515
Don't know man. I think this game is already 50-50 now due to all those lgd throws
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
August 25 2019 05:20 GMT
#516
Bkbs are gonna make supports so miserable this game. Lion and jak will explode in seconds, not quite as bad for liquid but close
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 25 2019 05:20 GMT
#517
On August 25 2019 14:19 Sif_ wrote:
LGD is being careless

I wish, if they were careless they would've gotten that Roshan cleanly instead of shitting themselves with fear of nothing
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Batmankills
Profile Joined February 2016
145 Posts
August 25 2019 05:21 GMT
#518
LGD's timing is gone, i guess?
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 25 2019 05:21 GMT
#519
The ice path scissors.
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 25 2019 05:22 GMT
#520
that chalice+fy combo was beautiful
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