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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 25 2019 05:08 GMT
#461
I wonder if LGD is just planning on using Stampede + Crimson/Pipe to support Huskar when they plan to push high ground.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 25 2019 05:08 GMT
#462
On August 25 2019 14:06 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 14:04 Ufnal wrote:
OK, I hate to say this, but Miracle tilted.

Three enemy heroes jumped his support and he spent like 2-3 seconds still trying to hit creeps instead of just running the fuck away.

Who wouldn't tilt when in laning phase challice and xnova throws everyspell they could throw at you whenever you want to hit creeps lol

Fair enough
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 05:10:42
August 25 2019 05:08 GMT
#463
On August 25 2019 14:07 Ufnal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 14:01 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:56 Ufnal wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:50 Nocticate wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:46 Nocticate wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:42 Sabu113 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:34 Damned627 wrote:
I've just watched a Rubick Messiah. Stealing Chrono days and days, and always had the right spell at the right time.

The story of the last 2 TIs is the same. 2 teams way above the rest of the pack, and that's saying something if the pack itself is extremely high level.


Was the pack that good this year?

How can it be good when game is just getting more random over years?

??
is this bait?

You can treat it as one. In my book, the more variables there are in game, the more random outcome gets.

what do you even mean by more variables? is this just a dusty "bounty runes and talents are bad for the game" take?

Not "bad", just "random".


But more variables doesn't mean just more randomness, but a higher skill cap. Rock-paper-scissors is random without many variables. Poker has more variables but is actually less random if I understand it correctly, because high level players can work with the variables while noobs can't.

And how does skill distribution in Poker look, then?


How would I know and how is that relevant? All I'm saying is amount of variables does not equal randomness, those two things can be related but not in a simple and linear way.


Because the entire point of mine is that the pack of teams under the 2 teams dominating this TI (and last one, at that) can't be entirely "good" because game is too random for that.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 05:08 GMT
#464
On August 25 2019 14:03 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 14:01 Sabu113 wrote:
On August 25 2019 14:00 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:57 babysimba wrote:
Wings is becoming a caster team lol, seen so many of them casting this TI on the official cn stream


Makes sense. Most of the team was really tier 2 at max, but they grinded so hard that they found ways to draft around their limitations. Though Faith`bian found a rare level of skill he probably couldn't replicate again.


Huh. I remember them dunking on everyone.

Individual skill wise relative to their competitors, Wings is probably the worst team out of all TI winners which make their run incredibly impressive.


Yup. I saw a lot of Wings. They were a "can qualify" team only until they started grinding until their hands were numb. They were able to outgrind everyone, then got a really favorable Bracket at TI. (They were a couple of Classic Jimmy moments from being stuck in the Lower Bracket.)

You have to understand that Wings figured out that you can pretty much always "cheese" a team with unknown combos. 7.00 nerfed Wings into the ground because their drafting advantage disappeared and, because they won, they weren't willing to grind so far.

But, let it be said, Faith`bian had one of the greatest TI runs of all time. He found a personal level he almost assuredly could never repeat.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 25 2019 05:09 GMT
#465
Stolen ice path.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44130 Posts
August 25 2019 05:09 GMT
#466
Idk about you guys but even with the lead i still favor liquid this game.
this is a quote
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
August 25 2019 05:09 GMT
#467
On August 25 2019 14:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I wonder if LGD is just planning on using Stampede + Crimson/Pipe to support Huskar when they plan to push high ground.


Jakiro chip for days.

Otherwise not an enviable tower pushing lineup.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
August 25 2019 05:10 GMT
#468
On August 25 2019 13:56 Ufnal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 13:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:50 Nocticate wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:46 Nocticate wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:42 Sabu113 wrote:
On August 25 2019 13:34 Damned627 wrote:
I've just watched a Rubick Messiah. Stealing Chrono days and days, and always had the right spell at the right time.

The story of the last 2 TIs is the same. 2 teams way above the rest of the pack, and that's saying something if the pack itself is extremely high level.


Was the pack that good this year?

How can it be good when game is just getting more random over years?

??
is this bait?

You can treat it as one. In my book, the more variables there are in game, the more random outcome gets.

what do you even mean by more variables? is this just a dusty "bounty runes and talents are bad for the game" take?

Not "bad", just "random".


But more variables doesn't mean just more randomness, but a higher skill cap. Rock-paper-scissors is random without many variables. Poker has more variables but is actually less random if I understand it correctly, because high level players can work with the variables while noobs can't.


Right, but this eventually becomes a problem for keeping things competitive. The higher the cap, the fewer people will be able to hit it, and so the smaller your pool of viable "top tier" players becomes. Arguably the similarity of the top teams between TI8/TI9 suggests Dota is close to maxing out its cap for maintaining a reasonable competitive scene... but at the same time there are so few professional games played, relatively speaking, that it would be ridiculous to say we can make that statement confidently. But if the results next year through the next year are as similar, maybe we get more confident about that guess.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
August 25 2019 05:10 GMT
#469
I'm surprised Liquid isn't putting up much more of a fight. This seems another stomp
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 25 2019 05:10 GMT
#470
Wtf w33 just broke his smoke intentionally?
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 25 2019 05:10 GMT
#471
what the fuck is this centaur cosmetic honestly
posting on liquid sites in current year
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 25 2019 05:10 GMT
#472
just tuned in, is there any way to listen to the english casters without the chinese ones?
passive quaranstream fan
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 25 2019 05:10 GMT
#473
Tobi's fishing rod is backwards lol.
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
August 25 2019 05:10 GMT
#474
W33 dying before that deso pickup was big, he got space but hasn't been able to make anything with it
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 25 2019 05:11 GMT
#475
Liquids decision making this series so far...like they're forcing smokes, making awkward plays.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 25 2019 05:11 GMT
#476
On August 25 2019 14:10 Artisreal wrote:
just tuned in, is there any way to listen to the english casters without the chinese ones?

Client?
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 25 2019 05:11 GMT
#477
OG LGD REMATCH HYPE
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 05:12:18
August 25 2019 05:11 GMT
#478
And miracle just being caught. Just bad decision making and play from liquid.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 05:12 GMT
#479
Easiest 2-0 prediction of my life. Probably the first correct one as well.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 25 2019 05:12 GMT
#480
Stomp this shit LGD, don't tire yourself out
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