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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On August 08 2017 05:44 Shellshock wrote: announcers told me that liquid had a better draft though. and better lanes. and better team fights early on. how did it end up being a one sided smack down in game 3? They didn't have the better draft, they had the potential to be perfect team fight but all rested on getting a good Chrono | ||
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ironcell
Chile1127 Posts
On August 08 2017 05:44 nojok wrote: Because we entirely ignored the mental factor. This. And the surprising unability to adapt. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On August 08 2017 05:44 Shellshock wrote: You know, that part when they actually play the dota, they did that worse.announcers told me that liquid had a better draft though. and better lanes. and better team fights early on. how did it end up being a one sided smack down in game 3? | ||
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VGhost
United States3621 Posts
That was a great display by IG, even the 2nd game they had a good plan and Liquid just got in before the timing with the GH KotL save sustaining the push. | ||
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
On August 08 2017 05:38 Invictus wrote: predicted liquid losing to iG  High five! But seriously, group a games showed it was the weaker group. Lfy just too dominant but the next 4 teams were neck and neck in every game with each other. | ||
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ChickenDieAlive
699 Posts
On August 08 2017 05:41 RxMidnight wrote: Liquid 'bout to pull an OG. #1 power rank gonna be the new Dota 2 curse. You forgot Secret TI 5. Lol. | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
Secret finished higher than OG | ||
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
On August 08 2017 05:42 Nobu wrote: Drafting LD over invoker was terrible and what lost them the game imo. Invoker 4th pick would have saved miracle's game and I highly doubt that IG would ban LD anyways this. no idea what kuroky was thinking to emphasise on the LD over invoker when miracle- invoker did so much for them everytime. Drafting an ember into an earth spirit?? FV Invoker was always liquid's go to combo but for some reason they wanted an LD that even went for bear build instead of ranged build. so many weird individual choices, i don't really blame mc that much. he had to play the game of his life if liquid wanted to win, with edge based chronos allowing matumba's bear to hit the enemy heroes. props to ig though, ig was playing crazy well and i'm pretty sure the lina pick was a blockpick against liquid's aa fv combo. they needed burst to destroy people in teamfights but ember against instant silence + earthshaker was just not the way to go | ||
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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Zea!
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Nobu
Spain550 Posts
On August 08 2017 05:45 Logo wrote: Wouldn't IG have just picked up TA? I think they would have lost trying to run Invoker vs TA. They could have still played invoker safelane if they wanted it that way. Also the synergy with chrono is bastly superior. Ember just seemed like a terrible pick against that amount of lockdowns (many of them instants) and the synergy with chrono is non existant. I really fail to understand how would you rate an LD over invoker there. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On August 08 2017 05:45 Pandemona wrote: They didn't have the better draft, they had the potential to be perfect team fight but all rested on getting a good Chrono There's also that fight at 13 minutes where Liquid lost 4 on a very fast reaction by Disruptor and FV being slighty off of getting the Chrono. A fight then going the other direction (or breaking even) probably could have entirely changed the game by giving Liquid the chance/time to get up the core items they needed to control fights. FV making it to a Blink Dagger would have made a huge difference. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On August 08 2017 05:42 Nobu wrote: Drafting LD over invoker was terrible and what lost them the game imo. Invoker 4th pick would have saved miracle's game and I highly doubt that IG would ban LD anyways You'd definitely prefer to have an invoker that game, but they did still have a void vs 4 squishy heroes and no save. I didn't get to watch most of the game, but I expected this game to be pretty hard if void was on point. Reading the lr thread, it appears he wasn't. | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On August 08 2017 05:47 Invictus wrote: this. no idea what kuroky was thinking to emphasise on the LD over invoker when miracle- invoker did so much for them everytime. It's very easy to gank Invoker with iG's support duo. The Ember not controlling his lane or working with Chrono was the bigger issue. | ||
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
On August 08 2017 05:46 Caladbolg wrote: High five! But seriously, group a games showed it was the weaker group. Lfy just too dominant but the next 4 teams were neck and neck in every game with each other. liquid seems to always have this really tilt-ish air to them which made me favor ig over liquid. haven't been catching most of lfy games but it feels to me that people just underestimate them. i feel like if lfy was instead playing in group a they wouldn't have gotten such a good score. not saying that they are bad, but more of i feel liquid/eg fighting styles would punish lfy harder than say vp/og | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On August 08 2017 05:49 ch33psh33p wrote: That game was lost on letting ES win a 1v3 lane. Terrible execution. There was no reason for that. Yeah what happened bot? I got to watch the first 30 seconds or so of the laning stage and when I came back, Xxs was more farmed than he had any right to be. | ||
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kaykaykay
Singapore637 Posts
On August 08 2017 05:47 Logo wrote: There's also that fight at 13 minutes where Liquid lost 4 on a very fast reaction by Disruptor and FV being slighty off of getting the Chrono. A fight then going the other direction (or breaking even) probably could have entirely changed the game by giving Liquid the chance/time to get up the core items they needed to control fights. FV making it to a Blink Dagger would have made a huge difference. And that lucky stun from lina at mid tower to catch fv | ||
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