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Super_Style
Profile Joined February 2015
296 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-14 11:24:28
January 14 2016 11:22 GMT
#1841
They just said on stream that alliance advances no matter what, no tiebreaks. Stupid and lame as fuck.
edit: same rules as TI, if alliance loses they advance due to beating LGD who are 1st place while fnc, spirit and navi all lost to LGD.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-14 11:23:37
January 14 2016 11:22 GMT
#1842
On January 14 2016 20:21 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 20:18 Azarkon wrote:
On January 14 2016 20:17 Kamisamanachi wrote:
yea...this is too bad for fnatic and alliance just get fed with spoon their spot for playoffs...even if they lose to EG now


They got through because they won LGD in 25 minutes. Don't act as though that doesn't matter because it did. It's LGD's fault, especially in case they lose to Alliance later when they meet again.


LGD had nothing to lose that game and they picked some random ass draft and lose game..why would u count that game in as a purpose to solve tiebreaker? and why spirit and navi plays now? why EG and alliance plays now?


LGD had the opportunity to knock out Alliance. They chose not to/weren't able to. Too bad.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 14 2016 11:23 GMT
#1843
On January 14 2016 20:21 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 20:18 Azarkon wrote:
On January 14 2016 20:17 Kamisamanachi wrote:
yea...this is too bad for fnatic and alliance just get fed with spoon their spot for playoffs...even if they lose to EG now


They got through because they won LGD in 25 minutes. Don't act as though that doesn't matter because it did. It's LGD's fault, especially in case they lose to Alliance later when they meet again.


LGD had nothing to lose that game and they picked some random ass draft and lose game..why would u count that game in as a purpose to solve tiebreaker? and why spirit and navi plays now? why EG and alliance plays now?


Well if Alliance wins vs EG, they are 2nd.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
January 14 2016 11:23 GMT
#1844
On January 14 2016 20:14 wims80 wrote:
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On January 14 2016 20:13 babysimba wrote:
Pretty sure PPD would want to face VP more than TS even if their current form doesn't reflect that, just like he wanted to face CoL more than C9 in TI5

Really? VP is far better than Secret IMO


Based on Secret's recent play yes, but this Secret has been a hard opponent for EG the last times they met. But EG hasn't had the easiest time against VP either as far as I recall (though they still have won more than they have lost). It depends on whether you expect Secret to continue being mediocre or whether they may get back to what they showed 1.5 months ago and before that.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
January 14 2016 11:23 GMT
#1845
sad for fnatic ..they looked pretty good this tournament and had a fair chance to play against top teams in playoffs ...
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
January 14 2016 11:23 GMT
#1846
I dont see NaVi kiting that DP easily
Zenmx
Profile Joined April 2015
Sweden163 Posts
January 14 2016 11:23 GMT
#1847
Problem is 3-way tiebreakers can go on forever which is why having a rule like this make sense. Sure sucks in situations like this though. Maybe a alternative in a 3-way tie like this could be the team with win against the highest rated team advance to 2nd tiebreaker round and the remaining two teams play each other in round 1. At least then it's still played out and it's guaranteed to just be a 2 games tiebreaker.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
January 14 2016 11:23 GMT
#1848
On January 14 2016 20:21 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 20:20 Vertical wrote:
anyway before we're shitting the system
first, prove or it doesen't happen ?

On the one hand V1lat is V1lat

on the other hand he is still one of the main casters and has ties with the org

I find it believable.

off topic
is it

v L at
or
V i LAT
-Terran-
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
January 14 2016 11:24 GMT
#1849
On January 14 2016 20:23 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 20:21 Kamisamanachi wrote:
On January 14 2016 20:18 Azarkon wrote:
On January 14 2016 20:17 Kamisamanachi wrote:
yea...this is too bad for fnatic and alliance just get fed with spoon their spot for playoffs...even if they lose to EG now


They got through because they won LGD in 25 minutes. Don't act as though that doesn't matter because it did. It's LGD's fault, especially in case they lose to Alliance later when they meet again.


LGD had nothing to lose that game and they picked some random ass draft and lose game..why would u count that game in as a purpose to solve tiebreaker? and why spirit and navi plays now? why EG and alliance plays now?


Well if Alliance wins vs EG, they are 2nd.



yea...then we have no tiebreaker...but if they loses,the system is one of the worst ive ever seen and for the info..TI had tiebreakers..so vilat is bullshitting about international tournament rule.
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 14 2016 11:24 GMT
#1850
its v1lat
WriterXiao8~~
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 14 2016 11:25 GMT
#1851
if I remember correctly International had tie breakers for the more important things(such as advancing to winners or loser bracket) and no tiebreakers for the lesser ones(seeding).

I think that was what it was.
WriterXiao8~~
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 14 2016 11:26 GMT
#1852
On January 14 2016 20:25 Kipsate wrote:
if I remember correctly International had tie breakers for the more important things(such as advancing to winners or loser bracket) and no tiebreakers for the lesser ones(seeding).

I think that was what it was.


International Rules require playing games if the position puts you in a different bracket or eliminates you.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
January 14 2016 11:27 GMT
#1853
apparently major had that rule and starladder is also using this rule...sad anyway..
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 14 2016 11:27 GMT
#1854
I still don't get why this wasn't Bo2s.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 14 2016 11:27 GMT
#1855
ppd said he had 3 guys that play Sand King.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 14 2016 11:28 GMT
#1856
On January 14 2016 20:27 Taf the Ghost wrote:
I still don't get why this wasn't Bo2s.

time
WriterXiao8~~
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
January 14 2016 11:28 GMT
#1857
Yeah, TI had tiebreakers for the upper bracket / lower bracket positions. Not to mention in those cases teams weren't even eliminated, now they are eliminating half the teams.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
January 14 2016 11:28 GMT
#1858
this saga just making me more salty toward [A]
-Terran-
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 14 2016 11:29 GMT
#1859
On January 14 2016 20:27 Kamisamanachi wrote:
apparently major had that rule and starladder is also using this rule...sad anyway..

the major was GSL style groups
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wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-14 11:29:59
January 14 2016 11:29 GMT
#1860
On January 14 2016 20:28 Vertical wrote:
this saga just making me more salty toward [A]


Alliance? Why is that? That doesn't make any sense at all. It's not like Alliance wrote the rules.
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
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